Mark of the beast, Anti-Christ and False Prophet Discussion.

Douggg said:

What you should be doing is saying - that as part of your methodology to develop a timeline your are reading the text "as if" there were parenthesis as certain points. And acknowledge that there are no actual parenthesis in the text.

Actually, you shouldn't be mentioning parenthesis at all - because it is building a timeline on a false premise, not actually being in the text - which result in a flawed timeline.

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You previously wrote: "The next verse, Revelation 11:3, are a different time expression because the 42 months and the 1260 days are not only in different half's, but they are not exact equals."

You are rearranging the text, pulling the 1260 days out of its last half of the week context and declaring it is really in the first half. All I am saying is, there is NO NEED to rearrange: instead, recognize that 11:4 through 11:13 is a parenthesis so it is OUTSIDE John's chronology.

Someone that don't understand might add the 1260 days to the 42 months, then add the 1260 days of fleeing and then add the 3.5 years all together and come up with total nonsense. In fact, someone DId try and add things together that were never meant to be added: You wrote,

"1260 days + 3 1/2 days + 42 months (1256.5 days) = 2520 days (7 years)"

Anyone could add the 42 months of trampling with the 42 months of authority and come up with 7 years. Anyone could add the 3.5 years of Daniel 7 with the 3.5 years of Daniel 12 (or the 3.5 years of Rev. 12) and come up with 7 years. Anyone could add the 1260 days of testifying to the 1260 days of fleeing and come up with 7 years. What they would be doing is adding the last half of the week and the last half of the week together. OF COURSE two halves equal a whole! But God never meant for anyone to add two last halves of the week together.

The truth is, all five mentions of the 3.5 year period of time, whether given in days, months or years: ALL are for the last half of the week. Period and end of story. You can imagine the 1260 days of testifying are in the first half, but the truth is, they only SHOW UP and begin almost at the midpoint of the week. You simple ignore John's chronology and try to make up your own.

you shouldn't be mentioning parenthesis at all - because it is building a timeline on a false premise, It is MUCH BETTER than your false premise of the 1260 days of testifying being in the first half!
Can you explain your thought process of WHY you imagine the two witnesses must testify in the first half?

You might want to check the TENSE of the verbs "will give" and "shall testify." They tell a story you ignore.

iamlamad said:

You are rearranging the text, pulling the 1260 days out of its last half of the week context and declaring it is really in the first half. All I am saying is, there is NO NEED to rearrange: instead, recognize that 11:4 through 11:13 is a parenthesis so it is OUTSIDE John's chronology.

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I am not re-arranging the text. It says "and" not "then". There is not parenthesis for Revelation 11:4-13.

The 42 months are later found in Revelation 13:5.

And the 1260 days is later found in Revelation 12:6.

iamlamad said:

Someone that don't understand might add the 1260 days to the 42 months, then add the 1260 days of fleeing and then add the 3.5 years all together and come up with total nonsense. In fact, someone DId try and add things together that were never meant to be added: You wrote,

"1260 days + 3 1/2 days + 42 months (1256.5 days) = 2520 days (7 years)"

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Well, I assume you made a typo, it is not 3 1/2 years.

The 7 years is the final week of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9.

Those 7 years are in Revelation 11 and Revelation 12.

The 7 years are also in Ezekiel 39, following the destruction of Gog's army.

But you don't have the 7 years in Revelation in your view.

iamlamad said:

Can you explain your thought process of WHY you imagine the two witnesses must testify in the first half?

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You mean besides all I have presented so far?

Because the 7 years are the fundamental block of time left in the 70 weeks.

The scroll that Jesus took and opened in Revelation 6 is about those 7 years.

The first seal is about the start. The rider given a crown, as the person is annointed the King of Israel, coming in his own name. He confirms the covenant for 7 years, to begin the 7 years in Daniel 9:27.

The other riders advance through the seven years, war, famine, death.

The 5th seal is the martyrs.

The 6 seal is at the end of the 7 years, corresponding to Matthew 24:29 and Matthew 24:30a
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When the two witnesses are killed, there will be global celebration of exchanging presents over their deaths. That occurrence will be impossible near the end of the seven years - if the 1260 days were basically the second half, as in your view.

Take note of how the world has been shut down now, with the CV19 pandemic, and it is not even close to situation that it will be like near the end and peak of the great tribulation.

Douggg said:

I am not re-arranging the text. It says "and" not "then". There is not parenthesis for Revelation 11:4-13.

The 42 months are later found in Revelation 13:5.

And the 1260 days is later found in Revelation 12:6.

Well, I assume you made a typo, it is not 3 1/2 years.

The 7 years is the final week of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9.

Those 7 years are in Revelation 11 and Revelation 12.

The 7 years are also in Ezekiel 39, following the destruction of Gog's army.

But you don't have the 7 years in Revelation in your view.

You mean besides all I have presented so far?

Because the 7 years are the fundamental block of time left in the 70 weeks.

The scroll that Jesus took and opened in Revelation 6 is about those 7 years.

The first seal is about the start. The rider given a crown, as the person is annointed the King of Israel, coming in his own name. He confirms the covenant for 7 years, to begin the 7 years in Daniel 9:27.

The other riders advance through the seven years, war, famine, death.

The 5th seal is the martyrs.

The 6 seal is at the end of the 7 years, corresponding to Matthew 24:29 and Matthew 24:30a
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When the two witnesses are killed, there will be global celebration of exchanging presents over their deaths. That occurrence will be impossible near the end of the seven years - if the 1260 days were basically the second half, as in your view.

Take note of how the world has been shut down now, with the CV19 pandemic, and it is not even close to situation that it will be like near the end and peak of the great tribulation.

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I am not re-arranging the text. It says "and" not "then". Yes, of course you are. "and" ties verse 2 to verse 3 and verse 3 to verse 2. The 42 months are most certainly for the last half of the week, so the "and" ties the 1260 days to the last half of teh week. Chapters 11 through 13 are all MIDPOINT chapters as proven by the 5 mentions of the timing of the last half of the week. You are pulling something in a midpoint chapter and insisting it really is in the first half. That, my friend, is rearranging. If verse two is the last half, and it certianly is, then verse 3 is the last half two.

Why do you think He wrote "and?" It is because God showed HIm the two witnesses the next moment after He was told the city would be trampled for 42 months.

The 42 months are later found in Revelation 13:5. Yes, the VERY SAME 42 months. That means IN THE SAME YEAR. Both verses start a countdown to the end of the week. However, the countdown for the 42 months of authority starts AFTER the countdown for the trampling. Did you not notice that the end of the week is at the 7th vial (when the 42 months of trampling ends) , but Jesus does not return and END the 42 months of authority until He comes to armageddon?

And the 1260 days is later found in Revelation 12:6. Yes, for the most part, the VERY SAME 1260 days. Only the countdown for the testifying will start 3.5 days sooner than the 1260 days of fleeing. My friend, we must follow the TEXT without rearranging. We must follow John's ORDER without rearranging.

I assume you made a typo, it is not 3 1/2 years. No, no typo: just thinking if someone tried to add all these 3.5 year periods of time together then would have over 17 years! They are not meant to be added: NONE of them - for they are all pretty much the same period of time, parallel to each other.

The 7 years is the final week of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9. Finally we agree! Good job!
Those 7 years are in Revelation 11 and Revelation 12. No, absolutely NOT! all times in these two chapters are for the LAST half of the week. John does show us the 7 years, but not in so many words: from the 7th seal to the 7th vial will be 7 years.

But you don't have the 7 years in Revelation in your view. Of course I do, but I know exactly where they are to be found. First half of the week from the 7th seal to the 7th trumpet: the second half of the week from the 7th trumpet to the 7th vial. See how nice it was of God to mark the entire 70th week with 7's?

You mean besides all I have presented so far? As far as I know, you have never given your thought process as to WHY you think the witnesses must testify in the first half. You just make statements that they do.

Because the 7 years are the fundamental block of time left in the 70 weeks. That is no real reason why you must rearrange Revelation to fit. Do you pay ANY attention to John's timing in each chapter - WHERE he is along the 7 year line in each chapter? I can assure you, in 11:1 John is just days before the abomination that will divide the week. I see the entire 7 years but I know the two witnesses testify in the second half: they SHOW UP and begin just 3.5 days from the midpoint.

The scroll that Jesus took and opened in Revelation 6 is about those 7 years. Now this I can agree with: I think the BOOK, when opened, (after all seals opened) will reveal the entire 70th week written INSIDE the book.

The first seal is about the start. The rider given a crown, as the person is annointed the King of Israel, coming in his own name. He confirms the covenant for 7 years, to begin the 7 years in Daniel 9:27. NO WAY JOSE! John does not get to our future until the 6th seal start of the Day of the Lord.

John is very clear on WHEN Jesus opened the first seal: it was rigtht after He ascended and sent the Holy Spirit down: circa 32 AD. The first seal is the CHURCH sent out with the gospel. Seals 2 through 4 are to represent the devil's attempts to stop the advance of the gospel. The crown is to represent ULTIMATE victory - the victory of the church. The confirming of the covenant will probably be done in secret: God did not show it to John. It would be at the 7th seal.

The 5th seal is the martyrs. OF THE CHURCH AGE. They are told they must wait for the final martyr is killed as they were - as church age martyrs. Stephen had NO IDEA how long it would be before the time of judgment. None of those under the altar knew. In contrast, ANY 70th week martyr would know they had only to wait out the rest of the 7 years.

The 6 seal is at the end of the 7 years Sorry, but the 7 years will not start until the 7th seal. Why jump the gun on John?

That occurrence will be impossible near the end of the seven years - if the 1260 days were basically the second half, as in your view. Of course I must disagree. It will probably be dark. Everyone will be in pain. But since they all thought the two witnesses had CAUSED all their problems, they will rejoice. Note that God will have SHORTENED the days of GT, so there will be TIME between the 6th vial and the day the two witnesses are killed. No one knows how much time.

As usual, you and I disagree a lot. it is OK.

iamlamad said:

I assume you made a typo, it is not 3 1/2 years. No, no typo: just thinking if someone tried to add all these 3.5 year periods of time together then would have over 17 years! They are not meant to be added: NONE of them - for they are all pretty much the same period of time, parallel to each other.

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I am not, nor never have made that claim. So why interject it into the discussion?

iamlamad said:

I am not re-arranging the text. It says "and" not "then". Yes, of course you are. "and" ties verse 2 to verse 3 and verse 3 to verse 2.

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You are tying the wrong two verses together.

Verse 1 and 2 go together.... it is talking the temple and city.

1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Verse 3 through 15 go together, it is talking about the two witnesses. Their 1260 days, and at the end of their testimony being killed by the beast.

Which the beast's army then controls the city for the final 42 months.

Douggg said:

I am not, nor never have made that claim. So why interject it into the discussion?

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Very simple: because you add two of them together. Even that is error. Anyone can add the last half of the week to the last half of the week and end up with 7! That does not make it good exegesis.

Douggg said:

first half
1260 days - Revelation 11:3, Revelation 12:6

in the second half
3 1/2 days - Revelation 11:11
42 months - Revelation 11:2, Revelation 13:5
time, times, half times - Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7, Revelation 12:7

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You can print this another thousand times (If Jesus taries that long) and it will still be in error.

ALL mentions of the 3.5 year period of time are for the LAST Half of the week. You utterly destroy John's chronology.

iamlamad said:

Very simple: because you add two of them together. Even that is error. Anyone can add the last half of the week to the last half of the week and end up with 7! That does not make it good exegesis.

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I don't add three and half years.

In the text of Revelation 11 is 1260 days, 3 1/2 days, 42 months.

You do not have the 7 year 70th week in your interpretation of Revelation.

iamlamad said:

ALL mentions of the 3.5 year period of time are for the LAST Half of the week. You utterly destroy John's chronology.

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There is not 3.5, nor three and half years, term found in bible prophecy.

You are making "commentary" as to your methodology in producing a timeline. Which you have no 7 years in your interpretation of Revelation.

Douggg said:

I don't add three and half years.

In the text of Revelation 11 is 1260 days, 3 1/2 days, 42 months.

You do not have the 7 year 70th week in your interpretation of Revelation.

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"1260 days + 3 1/2 days + 42 months (1256.5 days) = 2520 days (7 years)"

If you add 1260 days and 42 months you are adding the last half WITH the last half. OF COURSE two halves (even two last halves) add up to 7. Whoopee! I got 7!

Who ever said God HAD to write anything for the first half of the week. That is you presuming That God must have put in something for the first half. In truth, He did not. All five mentions of this time are for the last half. God never gave a number for the first half.

OF COURSE I have an entire week! If the last half is 1260 days common sense and logic would tell us the first half must be 1260 days. This is 3rd or 4th grade arithmetic.

Douggg said:

There is not 3.5, nor three and half years, term found in bible prophecy.

You are making "commentary" as to your methodology in producing a timeline. Which you have no 7 years in your interpretation of Revelation.

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Don't be picky! It is easier to type 3.5 that it is to type 3 1/2.

iamlamad said:

Don't be picky! It is easier to type 3.5 that it is to type 3 1/2.

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Neither term is found in bible prophecy. It is a very common "commentary" by you and others.

iamlamad said:

OF COURSE I have an entire week! If the last half is 1260 days common sense and logic would tell us the first half must be 1260 days.

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No, you are not showing from the text the 7 years being in Revelation. Instead, you are having everything as one common period of time, called 1260 days, called 42 months, and called a time, times, half times.

And who in Revelation starts the seven years? And where in the text is the basis?

Your interpretation of Revelation does not have the seven years in the text.

Douggg said:

Neither term is found in bible prophecy. It is a very common "commentary" by you and others.

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So if you imagine that time, times and half of time means something different than 3 1/2 years, that sure would not shock me. You miss it so many other places.

I would guess that 99% of those that study the end times agree that time, times and half of time means 3 1/2 years. When Jesus spoke to me, HE used "3 1/2 year period of time." I might add, neither is the "trinity" in the bible. I guess you have run out of other arguments.

By the way, without the parenthesis that I know are there, the Beast would be killing the two witnesses before He is even revealed! Just one more reason why there must be a parenthesis in chapter 11.

Douggg said:

No, you are not showing from the text the 7 years being in Revelation. Instead, you are having everything as one common period of time, called 1260 days, called 42 months, and called a time, times, half times.

And who in Revelation starts the seven years? And where in the text is the basis?

Your interpretation of Revelation does not have the seven years in the text.

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As I said, WHO SAID God had to delineate the first half of the week with words or numbers? No one has ever said such a thing. In fact and in truth, John does not show us he first half with numbers. However, if the week is divided into two halves - and it is - and if the second half is 1260 days, then common sense tells us the first half is 1260 days. God did not need to show us the first half.

Neither has God shown us in Revelation where the man of sin will confirm a covenant. That tells me that it is going to be done in secret. In the Olivet discourse, Jesus jumped over the start of the week and landed at the midpoint abomination.

Therefore, we don't NEED 7 years delineated: God has given us the last half of the week SO MANY WAYS it would be very hard to miss it - yet you have.

iamlamad said:

In the Olivet discourse, Jesus jumped over the start of the week and landed at the midpoint abomination.

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You missed the verse before the abomination of desolation.

Here is what Jesus said in the Olivet discourse...

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand : )

The two witnesses will be preaching the gospel for their 1260 days.

At the end of their preaching, the abomination of desolation will be setup on day 1185, 1335 days before Jesus returns.

And for the same said time....

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Which after the two witnesses's time of preaching the gospel and prophesying, then being killed, coming back to life, ascending to heaven - the 7th trumpet sounds.

And the war in the second heaven takes place, Satan and his angels cast down to earth - as God starts dismantling his kingdom of Babylon the great.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Which take place in the second half of the seven years.

So there are also the three angels in Revelation 14 that signify the 7 years.

verse 6-7 first angel - the gospel preached to the world (first half)
verse 8 second angel - Satan's kingdom falls from the second heaven
verse 9 third angel - worship of the beast, his image, taking his mark (second half)

Douggg said:

You missed the verse before the abomination of desolation.

Here is what Jesus said in the Olivet discourse...

14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand : )

The two witnesses will be preaching the gospel for their 1260 days.

At the end of their preaching, the abomination of desolation will be setup on day 1185, 1335 days before Jesus returns.

And for the same said time....

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Which after the two witnesses's time of preaching the gospel and prophesying, then being killed, coming back to life, ascending to heaven - the 7th trumpet sounds.

And the war in the second heaven takes place, Satan and his angels cast down to earth - as God starts dismantling his kingdom of Babylon the great.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Which take place in the second half of the seven years.

So there are also the three angels in Revelation 14 that signify the 7 years.

verse 6-7 first angel - the gospel preached to the world (first half)
verse 8 second angel - Satan's kingdom falls from the second heaven
verse 9 third angel - worship of the beast, his image, taking his mark (second half)

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What is Jesus timing before verse 14? Does He tell us? Yes.

6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Here Jesus is in the church age. He is not talking about end times. This timing follows through to verse 14 where jesus mentions "the end." Of course, the end of the Jewish age, not the end of the church age. From church age, and talking about "the end" Jesus jumps to the midpoint of the future 70th week! He jumped over any confirming of the covenant, or anything else before the midpoint.

Why would Jesus do this? We can only guess. My guess is, the confirming of the covenant is going to be done in secret.

Now, WHO is going to preach the gospel to all nations? We find that in Rev. 14: ANGELS will take the "everlasting gospel" to all nations and peoples. That is going to be shortly after the midpoint of the week.

The two witnesses will be preaching the gospel for their 1260 days. And WHERE does John show us they begin? Is it in chapter 6? No. Is it in chapter 8 where the 70th week begins? No. It is in chapter 9 deep into the first half of the week? No. No mention of the two witnesses here, because it is not their time. No, not even in chapter 10 that speaks of the 7th trumpet that marks the midpoint.

God introduces John to the two witnesses in exactly the place in John's narrative where they suddenly appear: right after the man of sin moves to Jerusalem. They are to be witnesses during HIS time as the Beast.

We can tell from what John tells us that they show up just before the midpoint. Can we tell how much before? Yes. They show up exactly 3 1/2 days before the man of sin will enter the Jewish temple and do his abomination.

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This is what John shows us by when and where in his narrative they suddenly appear, the time they lay dead, and how long they testify. Or would you say they show up .5 days before the midpoint but don't start testifying until the midpoint? Highly unlikely!

At the end of their preaching, the abomination of desolation will be setup on day 1185, 1335 days before Jesus returns.
This is myth. There is no 1185 in relation to the end times. 5 times John gives us countdowns to the end. Two times Daniel gave us countdowns to the end. Daniel asks, HOW LONG to the end of these wonders? And is told, time, times and half of time. That time must have a beginning and the beginning is verse 1 of chapter 12: when the days of great trouble begin: which is when Satan possesses the man of sin and He turns to the Beast of chapter 13.

The time, times and half of time then go from the midpoint to the end. But Daniel still does not get it and asks again. This time he is given a different answer: 1290 days. To stay in context then, this 1290 days would START at the same starting point: the midpoint of the week - and go PAST the 1260 days that ends the week to 30 days later. Daniel is telling us that SOME EVENT will take place 30 days after the week ends. Then yet another time is given. to stay in context, that time too will start at the midpoint and go 1335 days or another 45 days past the 1290 date.

So Daniel gives us the midpoint of the week, the end of the week at exactly 3 1/2 years, then some event 30 days after the week ends, and yet another event 45 days after that. In other words, to reverse what is given and work backwards is not in any way the intent here. That is why your numbers are myth.

Which after the two witnesses's time of preaching the gospel and prophesying, then being killed, coming back to life, ascending to heaven - the 7th trumpet sounds. Granted, many people imagine they are killed before the 7th trumpet, but it is only human reasoning gone amiss. One could only come to this conclusion by IGNORING John's chronology. The truth is, the verses about their death is a parenthesis outside of John's chronology. This is easily seen by when they suddenly appear: just 3 1/2 days before the midpoint.

Of course, if someone doesn't know where the midpoint is, or ignores all the hints that the midpoint is somewhere in chapters 11, 12, or 13: they will miss John's chronology. Then there are others that seem to ignore any kind of timing and order when they study Revelation. However, if we are to teach truth, we must pay close attention to timing in every chapter. The week begins with the first trumpet judgment. By the time the 6th trumpet has sounded, John is very close to the midpoint of the week - as proven by his 5 different mentions of the last 3 1/2 year period of time.

Then again, if someone INSISTS that God has to show the entire 70th week in days or in months, they will try and force what God has put in the last half of the week into the first half to "prove" there is 7 years.

The truth is, God MARKED the entire 70th week for our benefit: the 7th seal starts the week, the 7th trumpet marks the midpoint and the 7th vial ends it. It is easy then to see that 11:1 is just days before the midpoint.

So there are also the three angels in Revelation 14 that signify the 7 years.

verse 6-7 first angel - the gospel preached to the world (first half)
verse 8 second angel - Satan's kingdom falls from the second heaven
verse 9 third angel - worship of the beast, his image, taking his mark (second half)
This is just more myth, arrive at by totally IGNORING John's chronology. The truth is, EVERYTHING in chapter 14 will happen AFTER THE MIDPOINT. You are rearranging again. Did you forget about the 144,000? They are in the first half of the week.

Let me give you a hint: if something is written BEFORE chapter 11? It is in the first half of the week. If something is written AFTER chapter 11, those events will be AFTER the midpoint and in the second half of the week.

Truth: all three of these angels will fly and preach in the second half of the week, JUST before the Beast and False Prophet get their "mark" ready.

About the Two Witnesses: 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
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When during the 70th week do we find plagues? Where in Revelation do we find the plagues? First half or second half?

iamlamad said:

The two witnesses will be preaching the gospel for their 1260 days. And WHERE does John show us they begin?

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The begin 1260 days before the end of their testimony.

Revelation 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

iamlamad said:

About the Two Witnesses: 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
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When during the 70th week do we find plagues? Where in Revelation do we find the plagues? First half or second half?

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There will be the plagues by the two witnesses, during the last 75 days of the first half. There will other plagues during the second half after the two witnesses are gone.