Will the Levitical Priests make Sacrifices during the Millennial Reign?

Will the Levitical Priests make Sacrifices during the Millennial Reign?

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Ok, so you are admitting that you have nothing in your only proof-text - Rev 20. Those other passage reinforce Amil, and make no allusion to a supposed future 1,000 years.
My texts prove that Jesus will reign as King on earth. How long that will be for is told to us six times in Revelation 20.
Your Amill beliefs are wrong, but I realize that you can't change despite absolute proof being presented.
The best thing for you to do now, is to cease promoting false ideas and keep your Amill theories to yourself.
 
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It is becoming obvious: it is the truth you are fighting with. You misrepresent what the inspired text is saying, and ignore it when others expose this. That is all you can do. The text forbids your error. That is why you are ducking around it. You are doing the exact same with many posters.

I posted scripture, and a comment that it comes from a literal translation. Your argument isn't with me. your argument is with YHWH's word, as given to Jeremiah. You need to take it up with YHWH, not the messenger.
 
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If people question the earthly reign of Jesus and the final coming of God Himself to dwell with mankind, then they need to spend much more time carefully reading their Bible and NEVER making grossly wrong assertions, conjectures, suppositions, or wild guesswork.

Jesus said He would come again and the angels repeated it. Acts 1:11
The Bible says He will reign as King on the earth. Psalms 47:8, Psalms 97:1, Psalms 2:7-8, Revelation 19:6 And it will be Christians who will be His priests and co-rulers, Revelation 5:9-10, ON EARTH.

At the end of His 1000 year reign, Jesus will hand the Kingdom back to the Father, 1 Corinthians 15:24, and God will come to the earth for Eternity. Revelation 21:3

Jack Van Imp does the exact same as you do. He will not quote the actual sacred text at all, because it contradicts his doctrine. He just lists the references to a number of unrelated texts to support his false teaching (in the hope that no one checks it up for themselves).

Paul relates the fulfillment of the Messianic enthronement to Christ’s current kingly reign in heaven. This truth is confirmed in Acts 13:22-23. Paul speaking to the religious Jews in Antioch says, concerning the promise of the Messiah and His rise to the throne of David, which was made unto their forefathers, he (God) raised (aorist active indicative) up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. Of this man's (David’s) seed hath God according to his promise raised (aorist active indicative) unto Israel a saviour, Jesus.”

This Davidic reference was used by Paul to demonstrate (to his Israeli audience) that the much-anticipated eternal Davidic reign (prophesied for centuries in the Old Testament) had arrived in the form of Jesus Christ and His glorious resurrection. Christ was indeed Israel’s anticipated “king” and “saviour.” Premillennialists are selective in their interpretation of passages like this. The reason being: they have to be! Passages like this negate their doctrine. Whilst they except Christ as Israel’s current “saviour,” they do not except Him was Israel’s current ruling “king.” However, this text exposes their objection. This passage proves that Christ is presented as already perfectly fulfilling the Davidic expectancy.

Paul adds in Acts 13:26-30, “Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent. For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled them in condemning him. And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain. And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. But God raised him from the dead.”

It is clear from this whole chapter that these misguided Jews still foolishly yearned for a coming Messiah who would one day reign upon a physical temporal earthly throne in Jerusalem, when He had in fact already come and rose to the heavenly Davidic throne. These earthly-minded Jews totally missed the hour of their visitation because of their false theology. They totally misunderstood who their Messiah was and what form His reign would look like. The sobering part of this text is, their misinterpretation of Scripture, and their false expectation, caused them to miss their Messiah. The fact is, He came to Israel and most Jews never even recognised Him for who He was. They had such a wrong perception of their own king.

Paul then enlarges and explains, “And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers (speaking about the kingly Messianic reign that would usher from the seed of David), God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. And as concerning that [Psalm 2] he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise [His glorious rise to the throne], I will give you the sure mercies of David [quoting Isaiah 55:3] (vv 32-34).

What is majorly significant with this whole discourse from an eschatological point of view is that Paul references 2 popular Old Testament prophecies that the Jews commonly used anticipating the Messianic appearing and Davidic reign and showed how they have been fulfilled in the person of Christ and the victory of the resurrection. Here in explicit language Paul describes the realization of these Messianic predictions; the promised Messiah had already come and taken the throne of David, although, evidently, not in the person or in the manner that they had carnally imagined.

Paul here applies the Old Testament Davidic promises in Psalm 2 and Isaiah 55 to Christ’s resurrection to the throne; and explains how such prophecies had already marvelously happened. Christ’s sinless life and His atoning death would’ve meant nothing if He hadn’t conquered the grave.
 
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The English word “for ever” (or “forever”) means everlasting or eternal. It means something that never ends. It denotes endless, ceaseless, perpetual, undying, unbroken, unending, and interminable.

Has Israel endlessly, without a break, maintained their strict temple sacrificial system and festival in compliance with the old covenant blueprint? No!!! It therefore doesn't meet the English meaning of “forever.” The very meaning of the Hebrew word interpreted forever (`owlam) forbids an eternal interpretation. So, what does the word `owlam mean?

In case you didn't realize it; Israel is in exile. The Levites are being compliant with YHWH instruction. When dad tells his son to stand in the corner; the obedient son doesn't come out until dad calls him.

This understanding is well supported by Torah observant rabbis:

The Rabbis Speak Out
 
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My texts prove that Jesus will reign as King on earth. How long that will be for is told to us six times in Revelation 20.
Your Amill beliefs are wrong, but I realize that you can't change despite absolute proof being presented.
The best thing for you to do now, is to cease promoting false ideas and keep your Amill theories to yourself.

Yes, He is coming to the earth, but it is not the sin-cursed, goat-infested, death-blighted millennial age that you want and promote. When Christ comes He is going to transform corrupt creation in a moment to its former perfect and pristine condition – to the way it was meant to be. He is going to destroy the nations with a rod of iron when He comes. He is going to break them in pieces. There will be no survivors as I have showed you countless times and which you constantly refuse to acknowledge.

Peter speaking to the religious Jews in Acts 3:19-21 confirms the concluding nature of the Second Advent, saying, “Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he (God) shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution (apokatastasis or reconstitution) of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.”

All of the prophets spoke about a time when there would be a renewal of all things. They look forward with expectancy to a time when the curse would be finally removed from creation. This reading locates the time of the fulfilment of the “restitution of all things” as occurring at the Second Advent. This glorious final event sees the elimination of the old temporal degenerate state, and the introducing of the new perfect one. It is not merely the restitution of some things or even most things as some would have us believe, but (in complete agreement with the previous passage we looked at in 1 Peter 4:3-7), of “all things.”

This passage is clear in its instruction: “the heaven must receive (or dechomai, or detain)” Jesus Christ “until the times of restitution of all things.” Just like heaven “received him” (Acts 1:9) nearly 2,000 years ago; it will continue to detain Christ until the “the times of restitution of all things.” Interestingly, the word until used here is the Greek word achri (Strong's 891), which carries the idea of a terminus of time and meaning of up until or up to. It is variously interpreted in the King James Version as far as, for, into, till, even unto, even until.

The termination of this prolonged period – namely the climactic Second Advent – corresponds with the “reconstitution of all things” – thus the introducing of the “new heavens and a new earth” and the eternal state. Christ, therefore, will not appear until the consummation, which is the time when every enemy of Christ and His kingdom are finally destroyed, when this sin-cursed world is destroyed, and the time when the kingdom of God will be finally revealed in all its glory.

This is another conclusive passage that supports Amil and refutes Premil. Premil has 'the restoration of some things'. Their anticipated future millennium is a sin-cursed, goat-infested, death-blighted kingdom like our own. It is not the perfect state they portray. Frankly they try and place a square peg into a round hole. Can we honestly say that a restoration of all things can truly be fulfilled and presented to an earth that remains under the curse, where sin, death and decay still plague and reign among mankind? Would not the wholesale removal of the curse from a regenerated earth be the only viable occurrence? Wouldn't that alone constitute the only optimal and truest possible fulfilment of the restoration of all things?
 
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OK, I haven't studied this out enough to refute that; but what about this?:

(CLV) Jer 33:20
Thus says Yahweh: If you could annul My covenant with the day and My covenant with the night so that daytime and night fail to come about in their proper time, 21 then also My covenant could be annulled with David My servant, so that he should not come to have a son reigning on his throne, and that with the Levites, the priests, My ministers.
Me neither. What about John 4?

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Jhn 4:21
Jesus saith to her, 'Woman, believe me, that there doth come an hour, when neither in this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, shall ye worship the Father; 22 ye worship what ye have not known; we worship what we have known, because the salvation is of the Jews; 23 but, there cometh an hour, and it now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also doth seek such to worship him;

John 4:21 Commentaries: Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe Me, an hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father.

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(21) Woman (comp. Note on John 2:4), believe me, the hour cometh.—Better, there cometh an hour. The Authorised version of the latter clause gives the correct sense, if it is punctuated as follows: “When ye shall, neither in this mountain nor yet in Jerusalem, worship the Father;” “when ye shall worship, but without the limitation of holy places; when ye shall worship the Father of mankind, before whom Jew, and Samaritan, and Gentile are brethren.” Both these thoughts are suggested by her words. She had referred in the past tense to the worship on Gerizim, when for more than a century and a half the temple had been in ruins, but she refers in the present to the temple at Jerusalem, where the form of worship was every day gone through...........
In this mountain.—Sychar was between Ebal and Gerizim, and she would point out the holy mountain with the ruins of the temple then in sight.

The contrast between “our fathers” and the emphatic “ye” carries back the thoughts to the rival temple and worship on Mount Gerizim from the time of Nehemiah. The enmity took its rise in the refusal to accept the help of the Samaritans in the restoration of the temple at Jerusalem (Ezra 4:2; comp. 2Kings 17:24 et seq.).
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You clearly said all of Ezekiel 40 to 48 is prophecy about the time before Jesus Returns. That would have to include the above. So that means you must think the NHNE occurs before Jesus returns since verse 12 above is obviously meaning during the time of the NHNE. But isn't your position that the NHNE is after the millennium?
When the great and terrible Day of the Lords fiery wrath strikes the Middle East, that whole area will be dramatically changed. The Lord promise's to send rain, Isaiah 44:3, and make springs of water flow in that desert land. Isaiah 35:6-7
I do not see Revelation 22:1-2 as the same as Ezekiel 47:8-12. They are described differently, but it will be the same river, started before the Millennium and continuing into Eternity.
 
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In case you didn't realize it; Israel is in exile. The Levites are being compliant with YHWH instruction. When dad tells his son to stand in the corner; the obedient son doesn't come out until dad calls him.

This understanding is well supported by Torah observant rabbis:

The Rabbis Speak Out

Has Israel enjoyed everlasting, eternal, unbroken, endless, ceaseless, perpetual temple worship, blood sacrifices, Levitical ministry and an earthly king? Of course not! You whole argument falls apart at the most basic examination. This can only be realized in the eternal ministry of Christ and new covenant arrangement. It is time for you to abandon that useless pointless old covenant arrangement you hold tight unto.

Hebrews 7:18-19 makes clear: For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.”

This word “disannulling” is taken from the Greek word athetesis meaning cancellation.

The phrase “weakness and unprofitableness” used here to describe the old abolished system actually reads asthenes kai anopheles literally meaning: feeble and impotent useless and unprofitable.

It is hard to believe that Christian scholars would promote the return, on the new earth of all places, of such a hopeless discarded arrangement.

When Christ made that final sacrifice for sin He satisfied all God’s holy demands for sin and uncleanness and thus Christ became the final substitution for the sinner. Ephesians 2:13-15 also says, “now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition [between us]; Having abolished (katargeo) in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances.”

The Greek word katargeo is used here to describe the fate that befell the old Mosaic ritualistic system relating to “the law of commandments contained in ordinances.” This word means: ‘bring to nought’, ‘none effect’, and ‘abolish’. Jesus did away with any need or reliance upon the outward keeping of the old covenant religious system. The cross fulfilled forever God’s demand for a perfect once-for-all sacrifice.
 
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I posted scripture, and a comment that it comes from a literal translation. Your argument isn't with me. your argument is with YHWH's word, as given to Jeremiah. You need to take it up with YHWH, not the messenger.

Not so! You are misrepresenting the original language. I showed you it previous and you dodged around it again.
 
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There's this minor problem regarding Judas:

John 17
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
Indeed, that would seem to be a problem however as I pointed out in another post, Ezekiel in chapter 37 was commanded by God to prophecy to the dead of Israel - their dry bones to come out of the graves and put on their bones flesh, nerves, skin and spirit. He will thus fulfill his covenant with them (v.26) so that "they shall be my people and I will be their God (v.23). Thus all Israel will be saved in the millennium which by necessity includes Judas.
 
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Yahshua left no room for ambiguity when he said this:

(CLV) Lk 16:17
Yet it is easier for heaven and earth to pass by than for one serif of the law to fall.

Yet the lawless will go out of their way to try to find a way to skirt around it.

Do you keep the law?
 
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Yes, He is coming to the earth, but it is not the sin-cursed, goat-infested, death-blighted millennial age that you want and promote. When Christ comes He is going to transform corrupt creation in a moment to its former perfect and pristine condition – to the way it was meant to be. He is going to destroy the nations with a rod of iron when He comes. He is going to break them in pieces. There will be no survivors as I have showed you countless times and which you constantly refuse to acknowledge.
I don't acknowledge this because it is unscriptural rubbish. Written in a scathing and depreciating way.

That there will be those who deny Jesus; alive during the Millennium is proved by how Satan can seduce millions to attack Jesus. Revelation 20:7-9
The earth will only be in a pristine condition AFTER the Millennium. Revelation 21:1
 
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It is clear to everyone here that you do not want to learn. You only seem to want to avoid and insult. You testify with your own tongue: "I'm not very strong in my prophecy studies."

Stop projecting. If you can't add something of value to the discussion; please just watch and learn.

I'm not well studied on prophecy; but concerning the Torah and the gospel, I'm am well studied. If you wouldn't cling to your doctrine, with an adversarial posture; we night both learn from each other. If you are going to ignore scripture, and defend faulty translations; it will greatly impede our efforts, to work together, to seek truth.

I won't entertain your ad hominem arguments again. Please treat others with the same respect that you would wish for yourself.
 
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Indeed, that would seem to be a problem however as I pointed out in another post, Ezekiel in chapter 37 was commanded by God to prophecy to the dead of Israel - their dry bones to come out of the graves and put on their bones flesh, nerves, skin and spirit. He will thus fulfill his covenant with them (v.26) so that "they shall be my people and I will be their God (v.23). Thus all Israel will be saved in the millennium which by necessity includes Judas.

Wow! Unbelievable! Do you believe the NT?

This is a form of Zionist universalism. That is heresy. This is Israelolotry. You are inventing 2 gospels, 2 peoples of god and to rules for salvation. There is no second chance as you teach. There is no racial preference today. God is God all people equally. You need to come into the new covenant era.

In Acts 10, God uses a vision of unclean food to help the apostle Peter see that in Christ there is no longer any spiritual distinction between Jew and Gentile. God now accepts both equally on the same terms into His kingdom. Peter responds to this great monumental revelation in Acts 10:34-36: “I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all).”

The word interpreted “respecter” in the King James Version is the Greek word prosopoleptes which simply means: one exhibiting partiality. In fact, the New King James Version renders this, “In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.”

The Revised Standard Version states: “Truly I perceive that God shows no partiality, but in every nation any one who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.” The New Living Translation: “I see very clearly that God doesn't show partiality. In every nation he accepts those who fear him and do what is right.” Today’s English Version similarly states, “I now realize that it is true that God treats everyone on the same basis. Whoever fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him, no matter what race he belongs to.” New International Version states: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.”

This passage is crystal clear in its meaning and explanation of how God views all nations, peoples and tribes equally today. The reading makes it clear: God is no respecter of persons. This is not strange or outlandish; it is the constant theme of the New Testament. The Gospel is no longer restricted to the physical race of Israel but it has been opened up to embrace all nations. This means that God doesn’t accept anyone based on their nationality, color or status but rather on whether or not they fear Him. When it comes to salvation he looks at the inward rather than the outward. Those that fear him and walk righteously “in every nation” are now “accepted with him.” He is assuredly “Lord of all.” He has made all nations, tribes and kindreds the focus of His favor today. It is wrong to elevate one nation over another.

Messianic Jew Jakob Jocz cogently observes: “God is no respecter of persons. Before Him, the Holy One, men stand not as Jews and Gentiles but as sinners who are in need of grace. Jesus the prophet may be speaking to the Gentiles; but Jesus the Son of God speaks to mankind. Jesus the martyr may be appealing to some and not to others; but Jesus the Lamb of God challenges the whole human race. God’s word is one word, and God’s way is one if it is the way of God” (The Jewish People and Jesus Christ).

The Jews no longer enjoy a favored or exclusive status. Sadly, many modern-day Christian fail to get their head round this great and seismic immense new covenant change.
 
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Stop projecting. If you can't add something of value to the discussion; please just watch and learn.

I'm not well studied on prophecy; but concerning the Torah and the gospel, I'm am well studied. If you wouldn't cling to your doctrine, with an adversarial posture; we night both learn from each other. If you are going to ignore scripture, and defend faulty translations; it will greatly impede our efforts, to work together, to seek truth.

I won't entertain your ad hominem arguments again. Please treat others with the same respect that you would wish for yourself.

Stop avoiding the issues and address what others are writing. It is not fair to ignore the many posters here that are taking the time to submit comments and multiple Scripture.
 
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Your theology is so confusing. Can you first tell us: does your new earth arrive before or after your millennial kingdom?
The millennial kingdom is ushered after the great tribulation, upon Jesus' 2nd Coming.
Rev 20:4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They a had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The new heaven and new earth is ushered in after the millennium.
Rev 21:1Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ b or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
 
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The millennial kingdom is ushered after the great tribulation, upon Jesus' 2nd Coming.
Rev 20:4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They a had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The new heaven and new earth is ushered in after the millennium.
Rev 21:1Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ b or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

Why then are you dumping NHNE passages into your millennium? That does not make sense. Do you believe in 2 new heavens and new earths?
 
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Thus all Israel will be saved in the millennium which by necessity includes Judas.
Not just wrong, but quite ridiculous.

Who is the true Israel of God today? Just those who call themselves Jews? I don't think so!

In the New Testament it is Christians only, Jews and Gentiles, who are revealed as God's chosen people and God's holy nation. A few thousand Jews did become Christians then and many are now. But for the rest, Jesus cursed the fig tree and called them members of the synagogue of Satan.

1 Peter 2:1-lO...They that are with Him [Christ] are called and chosen. [Revelation 17:14; Ephesians 1:4] Peter was writing to Christians: new born babes, lively stones, to a spiritual people, who are the holy priesthood, elect and precious.

The Lord Jesus has become the chief cornerstone of all these new and living stones. He is building only ONE spiritual nation, ONE spiritual temple!

Mathew 21:42. This is the Lord's doing and it is marvelous in our eyes.
Luke 3:8.Truly, God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

To be an Israelite of the promised Seed, one must now be bringing forth good fruit of the spirit from "good ground" and not of the flesh, either in 30, 60, or up to 100 fold in God's spiritual measure - Matthew l3:23. Because the religious system of Israel rejected Christ as the chief cornerstone and bearer of good fruit, Jesus said to the Jews: The kingdom of God shall be taken from you [as a natural literal nation], and given to a [newly incorporated Christian] nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Matthew 21:43

There is only one Way all must come - John 14:6 That way is not through natural lineage and inheritance, but through the acceptance of God's grace found in Jesus Christ the Lord. There is only one new Covenant and God makes that Covenant only with true believers.

Who is now and shall yet be a part of the new people of God? The natural Jews?
Yes, but only as individuals, as Christian Israelites in a totally new and different nation: citizens of a new city, a new government. They must come through Christ in the same manner as any nationality before they can become new citizens of this new nation in all that area promised to Abraham and his descendants by faith. Heb.11:10-16

Natural Israel did not obtain that which they sought, but the chosen [and faithful] people have attained it. Romans 11:7, Romans 8:29-30
 
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Wow! Unbelievable! Do you believe the NT?

This is a form of Zionist universalism. That is heresy. Is this Israelolotry. You are inventing 2 gospels, 2 peoples of god and to rules for salvation. There is no second chance as you teach. There is no racial preference today. God is God all people equally. You need to come into the new covenant era.

In Acts 10, God uses a vision of unclean food to help the apostle Peter see that in Christ there is no longer any spiritual distinction between Jew and Gentile. God now accepts both equally on the same terms into His kingdom. Peter responds to this great monumental revelation in Acts 10:34-36: “I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all).”

The word interpreted “respecter” in the King James Version is the Greek word prosopoleptes which simply means: one exhibiting partiality. In fact, the New King James Version renders this, “In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.”

The Revised Standard Version states: “Truly I perceive that God shows no partiality, but in every nation any one who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.” The New Living Translation: “I see very clearly that God doesn't show partiality. In every nation he accepts those who fear him and do what is right.” Today’s English Version similarly states, “I now realize that it is true that God treats everyone on the same basis. Whoever fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him, no matter what race he belongs to.” New International Version states: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism but accepts men from every nation who fear him and do what is right.”

This passage is crystal clear in its meaning and explanation of how God views all nations, peoples and tribes equally today. The reading makes it clear: God is no respecter of persons. This is not strange or outlandish; it is the constant theme of the New Testament. The Gospel is no longer restricted to the physical race of Israel but it has been opened up to embrace all nations. This means that God doesn’t accept anyone based on their nationality, color or status but rather on whether or not they fear Him. When it comes to salvation he looks at the inward rather than the outward. Those that fear him and walk righteously “in every nation” are now “accepted with him.” He is assuredly “Lord of all.” He has made all nations, tribes and kindreds the focus of His favor today. It is wrong to elevate one nation over another.

Messianic Jew Jakob Jocz cogently observes: “God is no respecter of persons. Before Him, the Holy One, men stand not as Jews and Gentiles but as sinners who are in need of grace. Jesus the prophet may be speaking to the Gentiles; but Jesus the Son of God speaks to mankind. Jesus the martyr may be appealing to some and not to others; but Jesus the Lamb of God challenges the whole human race. God’s word is one word, and God’s way is one if it is the way of God” (The Jewish People and Jesus Christ).

The Jews no longer enjoy a favored or exclusive status. Sadly, many modern-day Christian fail to get their head round this great and seismic immense new covenant change.
Unbelievable to you perhaps because you have not studied and instead rely upon what you were taught? Just asking.

Moreover, your reply demonstrates that you are not even aware of what Zionism is. FYI Zionism is man's effort to create God's kingdom in this age by his own efforts and timing. Only God will create a homeland for the Jews - which does not take place until Jesus sets up his millennial reign on the earth. Zionism on the other hand, is a false movement and agenda meant to mimic the workings of God in this present church age.

You simply overlook the fact that God has a plan & time table for both the cultivated olive and the wild olive. We are baptized into one body but each in his own order (1 Cor 15:23). Unfortunately, you emphasize the one body which is true, but you neglect the timing of things. In order for you to hold to your view, you have to deny that all Israel will be saved. You have to deny the dry bones and the opening of the graves in Ezekiel 37. That's a lot to deny in order to cling to your doctrine. All Scripture must be reconciled with our doctrinal position - including the pesky ones that we somehow think don't fit.
 
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Unbelievable to you perhaps because you have not studied and instead rely upon what you were taught? Just asking.

Moreover, your reply demonstrates that you are not even aware of what Zionism is. FYI Zionism is man's effort to create God's kingdom in this age by his own efforts and timing. Only God will create a homeland for the Jews - which does not take place until Jesus sets up his millennial reign on the earth. Zionism on the other hand, is a false movement and agenda meant to mimic the workings of God in this present church age.

You simply overlook the fact that God has a plan & time table for both the cultivated olive and the wild olive. We are baptized into one body but each in his own order (1 Cor 15:23). Unfortunately, you emphasize the one body which is true, but you neglect the timing of things. In order for you to hold to your view, you have to deny that all Israel will be saved. You have to deny the dry bones and the opening of the graves in Ezekiel 37. That's a lot to deny in order to cling to your doctrine. All Scripture must be reconciled with our doctrinal position - including the pesky ones that we somehow think don't fit.

There is only one body, one people of God, one Gospel and one salvation. You are trying to make two. You are making a race salvation and a spiritual salvation, a Jewish people and a Gentile people. The New Testament makes clear; there is only one elect people. There is only one good olive tree, not two; one body, not two; one bride, not two; one spiritual temple, not two; one people of God, not two; one household of faith, not two; one fold, not two; one man, not “twain,” and one elect of God throughout time.

The reality is: either man is found in Christ, and are therefore heirs of God according to the promise, or else he belongs to the devil and is damned. In Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile; all who believe in Him are one. The Israel of God is not therefore restricted to the physical earthly nation of Israel or any other physical nation, as of the flesh, but rather to the spiritual seed of Abraham – the spiritual Israel that is born from above.

We see an explanation and identification of who the children of Abraham actually are throughout the New Testament. Paul the Apostles informed the largely Gentile church in Rome, in Romans 4:13-15, “For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. For if they which are of the law (natural Israelites) be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect. Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.”

Paul keeps pressing home this point in his writings that the true seed of Abraham is not physical, but spiritual. These are a redeemed people of all nations that have entered into the household of faith. The fundamental thrust of the Abrahamic promise is continually shown not to be directed toward a physical people through keeping the law or a set of religious rules or rituals but rather a spiritual people of faith. This covenant was made with a faithful believing people (irrespective of circumcision or uncircumcision) who were in a right standing with God. God’s chosen people (the elect) were (and always will be) the Lord’s redeemed saints.

Paul also shows the scope of divine favor moving from a small area in the Middle East to include the whole world. Jews and Gentiles who believe in Jesus Christ are said to be heirs with Abraham and will inherit “the world.” Being an “heir” normally relates to land and inheritance. In the case of Abraham, it referred to the expanse of the geographical globe – “heir of the world.” This shows us the worldwide nature and scope of the promised land. This is a monumental shift in the area being possessed by the people of God. Clearly there is a geographical expansion on the land inheritance in the New Testament. No longer is the territory in view or the inheritance promised limited to a small parcel of land in the Middle East. Through faith in Christ the area of inheritance expands to include the whole earth.

In the light of the introduction of the new covenant, and within a New Testament context, Paul takes time to examine the whole dynamic between national Israel and God’s righteous remnant. Romans 11:25-29 tells us: “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.”

There are many inconsistencies in the dispensationalist hermeneutical system. While they passionately insist that the phrase “all Israel shall be saved” (Romans 11:26) relates to the whole nation of national Israel at a future time, they quickly paper-over a similar statement leading to the Gentiles, which says, “the fulness of the Gentiles come in” as having no wholesale meaning.

This is a passage above that has confused many Christians over the years. The reason for this seems to revolve around the phrase “all Israel shall be saved.” There are many that deduce corporate salvation for natural Israel from this. But is Paul contradicting himself in his Romans 9-11 discourse? In one breath in Romans 9:27 he is saying “a remnant shall be saved” (future, passive, indicative), in the next, in Romans 11:26, he is saying “all Israel shall be saved” (future, passive, indicative).

Let us be absolutely assured: Paul is definitely not opposing himself, neither is the Holy Spirit, who inspired him to pen this, confused. He is in no way teaching corporate salvation in Romans 11:25-29, as some would suggest, or else he would be reversing everything he has just taught in the preceding verses and chapters of this book (and his other Epistles) in regard to an elect remnant. Salvation was never secured on the grounds of race; it was always by grace through faith. Moreover, the Gospel opportunity in the New Testament is always shown to be open to all nationalities equally; this includes natural Israel.

Romans 9:6-13 explains how God’s people and the seed of promise are not a natural but a spiritual seed. In his thesis on the promised seed, we find Jacob and us the believing Gentiles. He asserts: “For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara shall have a son. And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.”

The whole of Paul’s teaching in this New Testament passage is establishing who “the children of God” really were/are. We see that Abraham had a natural lineage and also a spiritual lineage. Significantly, it was only the spiritual seed that carried any spiritual credentials. Paul distinguished here between biological Israel and faithful Israel. He shows that these are two different diverse peoples. In doing this he is attempting to illustrate the impotence of the natural and the potency of the spiritual.

Just because they belonged to Israel (or the natural seed of Abraham) did not signify that they were God’s chosen people. He shows how “the children of the flesh” are not “the children of God;” it is rather “the children of the promise” – faithful believing Israel. How can Dispensationalists get around this? No one should miss the distinction between the true spiritual seed of Abraham and the mere natural seed. Plainly: “they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children” (Romans 9:6). Paul demonstrates that it is “the children of the promise” that “are counted for the seed.” This spiritual company are the ones that really matter.
 
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