How can we interpret the Virus from a Christian point of View?

Jedman761 said:

Although homosexuality is clearly prohibited in the Bible, the punishment for it is not usually plague. In both religious thought and Greek mythology, plague is the punishment for poor, immoral, and haughty leadership. The most obvious example, of course, are the 10 plagues that Pharaoh brought upon his people because of his hubris. Consider also the story of Oedipus, and how Thebes suffered a plague because of his immoral behavior. There is other evidence of this too: The plague that wiped out Sennacherib’s forces outside of Jerusalem is another example.

It is clear to me, from a religious point of view, that this plague, and its effect on our country, is the result of Trump's election. Think about it, Trump meets all the characteristics of a leader that God would abhor. He has dealt falsely with his neighbors, he has treated women poorly, he has used his position as President for personal gain. He has even suggested that we use the spoils of war to enrich ourselves- a crime for which the Jews are eternally punished by the descendants of Ameleek.

It is true that homosexuality was practiced in Sodom and Gomorrah, but that was not the crime that resulted in their destruction. Consider that the word sodomy implies the use of force rather than consent. The truth is that pedophilia, rape and larceny were also practiced in these two cities. Worst of all, when the angels came to warn Lot, the people tried to abduct them- violating the sacred rule of showing hospitality to guests and foreigners (remind you of anyone?).

One can also make the argument that the plague is retribution for society's immoral behavior, rather than the leader's. But this doesn't pan out either. The punishment for the people "straying from God's ways" is either drought, as in the story of Elijah confronting the priests of Baal, or expulsion, such as the destruction of the Temples, or total destruction, such as the Flood.




When you look at the patterns in both the Biblical and mythological literature, the conclusion is inescapable. Plague is a message that the leader has done a poor job as God's servant and must either repent or step aside.

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For many, the bible and world events are nothing more than a giant Rorschach test. They see what's on their mind.

Jedman761 said:

Although homosexuality is clearly prohibited in the Bible, the punishment for it is not usually plague. In both religious thought and Greek mythology, plague is the punishment for poor, immoral, and haughty leadership. The most obvious example, of course, are the 10 plagues that Pharaoh brought upon his people because of his hubris. Consider also the story of Oedipus, and how Thebes suffered a plague because of his immoral behavior. There is other evidence of this too: The plague that wiped out Sennacherib’s forces outside of Jerusalem is another example.

It is clear to me, from a religious point of view, that this plague, and its effect on our country, is the result of Trump's election. Think about it, Trump meets all the characteristics of a leader that God would abhor. He has dealt falsely with his neighbors, he has treated women poorly, he has used his position as President for personal gain. He has even suggested that we use the spoils of war to enrich ourselves- a crime for which the Jews are eternally punished by the descendants of Ameleek.

It is true that homosexuality was practiced in Sodom and Gomorrah, but that was not the crime that resulted in their destruction. Consider that the word sodomy implies the use of force rather than consent. The truth is that pedophilia, rape and larceny were also practiced in these two cities. Worst of all, when the angels came to warn Lot, the people tried to abduct them- violating the sacred rule of showing hospitality to guests and foreigners (remind you of anyone?).

One can also make the argument that the plague is retribution for society's immoral behavior, rather than the leader's. But this doesn't pan out either. The punishment for the people "straying from God's ways" is either drought, as in the story of Elijah confronting the priests of Baal, or expulsion, such as the destruction of the Temples, or total destruction, such as the Flood.




When you look at the patterns in both the Biblical and mythological literature, the conclusion is inescapable. Plague is a message that the leader has done a poor job as God's servant and must either repent or step aside.

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So if Trump being elected is the cause of the virus can you explain to me how did the people of China, the EU, and for that matter all the rest of the world vote for him?

Jedman761 said:

Although homosexuality is clearly prohibited in the Bible, the punishment for it is not usually plague. In both religious thought and Greek mythology, plague is the punishment for poor, immoral, and haughty leadership. The most obvious example, of course, are the 10 plagues that Pharaoh brought upon his people because of his hubris. Consider also the story of Oedipus, and how Thebes suffered a plague because of his immoral behavior. There is other evidence of this too: The plague that wiped out Sennacherib’s forces outside of Jerusalem is another example.

It is clear to me, from a religious point of view, that this plague, and its effect on our country, is the result of Trump's election. Think about it, Trump meets all the characteristics of a leader that God would abhor. He has dealt falsely with his neighbors, he has treated women poorly, he has used his position as President for personal gain. He has even suggested that we use the spoils of war to enrich ourselves- a crime for which the Jews are eternally punished by the descendants of Ameleek.

It is true that homosexuality was practiced in Sodom and Gomorrah, but that was not the crime that resulted in their destruction. Consider that the word sodomy implies the use of force rather than consent. The truth is that pedophilia, rape and larceny were also practiced in these two cities. Worst of all, when the angels came to warn Lot, the people tried to abduct them- violating the sacred rule of showing hospitality to guests and foreigners (remind you of anyone?).

One can also make the argument that the plague is retribution for society's immoral behavior, rather than the leader's. But this doesn't pan out either. The punishment for the people "straying from God's ways" is either drought, as in the story of Elijah confronting the priests of Baal, or expulsion, such as the destruction of the Temples, or total destruction, such as the Flood.




When you look at the patterns in both the Biblical and mythological literature, the conclusion is inescapable. Plague is a message that the leader has done a poor job as God's servant and must either repent or step aside.

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Trumps done more in favor of Christian views than any president in recent history, then the left goes to work trying to destroy Him. If God is opposed to something I can only imagine of those two items which one He would oppose.

I said in another post that my view about this illness is that it directly comes out of the fallen nature of this world. And God will use that and has used that..

Hi Jedman - - welcome to Christian Forums :) said:

Although homosexuality is clearly prohibited in the Bible, the punishment for it is not usually plague.

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According to what I see in Romans 1:18-32, it can be a punishment for refusing God and not being "thankful" > Romans 1:21. There are things which may be in sin, yet they have their own built-in punishment. For example, if I am stuck with a preference of how I get pleasure, this can be a punishment by how it keeps me from sharing with God and His people as family.

They were not "thankful".

So, why would people single out gays, except perhaps to keep attention away from they themselves are not being "thankful"? I notice, by the way . . . it seems there are various people getting COVID-19, and it seems to be killing ones who already have medical problems . . . not healthy and physically fit gay guys, to say the least. And who is getting punished, if granmommies and granddaddies are getting killed by it? This could be punishing . . . children!!

I think we can have a way of making something mean what we want it to mean, no matter what it really means lolololololololol .

Jedman you said:

the result of Trump's election.

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Any governor or citizen or medical facility could have prepared. Plus, I suppose Democrats could have made a major move to get things ready, somehow. How much did anyone more well-known make an issue and call for preparation? I know I got word about it, but I did my usual. Donald did not make that choice, for me, in my opinion.

If Donald had made a big thing, much sooner > do you suppose Democrats or Republicans would have taken him seriously? Ones might have cried out, oh now he's trying to use scare tactics to get control of the nation. Who moved, really, before the proof was in the United States??

Oh . . . I can be a bozo about fact checking. So, I won't be surprised if someone posts a majoy factual makeover of what I am offering about if anyone got ready and took it seriously, and I mean big-name authorities, maybe a religious leader who was actively getting ready, not only making brownie points to get money sent in.

I heard the mayor of New Orleans clearly say how he goofed by supposing the feds would take care of New Orleans during the Katrina thing. So, people already know better than to assume someone else will do something. So, who got really ready . . . anyone, at all? How about this time, by the way; how well did New Orleans get ready, knowing their experience with the feds during the Katrina disaster??

So . . . we have ones who want to make the gays a project . . . and not deal with how God's word evaluates them, their own selves. Plus, ones want to point at Donald and say he is so deadly and dangerous . . . while some number of his critics are fine with killing even unborn people. But I was told the politicians in New York State passed a partial-birth kill bill and they were jubilant they got it through; so where is the main trouble with COVID-19? Is this a coincidence??

I'll say the same goes for me, here > I could welcome the New York trouble as an excuse to criticize someone beside myself and say oh God is judging them > I can welcome some way I could point at how someone else is wrong . . . instead of dealing with how I have helped spoil things by being not God's example . . . not loving and praying the way His word says > "first of all" > 1 Timothy 2:1-4 > with hope for any and all people, like how Jesus on the cross suffered and died with hope for any evil person, at all.

Yes, we need to see what is wrong, so we don't join in it. But are we pointing with hope and love in prayer, or something else?

Jedman761 said:

Although homosexuality is clearly prohibited in the Bible...

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The issue in scripture is promiscuity.

Jedman761 said:

How can we interpret the Virus from a Christian point of View?

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That Biology was a subject we studied about in High School?