Bible verses most Christians refuse to believe

HARK! · Apr 9, 2020

Original Happy Camper said:
Key word in verse 17 is FOLLOW
context
As in follow Christ
Come After

Matthew 7:21-23 King James Version (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

There is no keyword in that verse.

Mark 16:9-20

Omitted in the critical text. See Mark 16 - Wikipedia

List of major textual variants in the New Testament - Wikipedia

chevyontheriver · Apr 9, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
That depends on if they are core verses.

How does a person rightly decide what their personalized core verses are? The ones they can't let slide, as opposed to the ones they can let slide? How does a person get there? How does another person have a different list of core verses?

HatGuy · Apr 9, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
How do you explain it says the opposite of the other verses in 1 John? The next verse is how to become a Christian, so in context, what does that say about the person in 8?

Is anyone besides Christ born without sin? Do we need Christ or not?

So, is your counsel to someone struggling with some addictive sin to say to them that they are not a Christian?

Your response was not clear.

BrotherJJ · Apr 9, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
Romans 3:
30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

Some background & then a parsing of Rom 3:31

1 John 3:4 Whoever commit's sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
(NOTE: Sin is the transgression of God's heavenly/supreme laws)

We've all broken God's law & deserve it's sentence/wage/payment invoked in (Rom 6:23 DEATH).

No one can say he is not a sinner until some means is provided (not to take away the law) but to remove the sin, which is the transgression of the law.

Context from vs 21 to 31 if: Righteousness/Justification by FAITH void of Mosaic law.

Rom 3:
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
(NOTE: The righteousness of God """Jesus Christ""" has been made known)

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
(NOTE: Jesus is the righteousness of God. Jesus willingly exchanged His sinless righteousness for our sinfulness. When we place our FAITH in His FAITHFUL sin atoning work & resurrection. Our Great High Priest (Heb 4:14) takes away our sins, by imputing them (Rom 4:8 11, 22, 23, 24, Ja 2:23) onto himself & imputing His righteousness onto the believer. Jesus takes away our sin & we become the righteousness of God in/thru Christ (2 Cor 5:21)

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
(NOTE: Justified freely = Judicially declared righteousness by a sovereign God. When we place our FAITH in Jesus sin payment & resurrection)

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
(NOTE: Jesus shed blood is the propitiation =atoning sacrifice, that declares his righteousness (via his resurrection) enabling Him to remiss = pardon sins. When we place our FAITH in Jesus sin atoning payment & resurrection. He forgives ALL our sins)

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
(NOTE: This verse declares Jesus righteousness & declares Jesus the justifer of those who believe/have faith in Christ. Not those that follow/keep the law)

27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
(NOTE: "THE LAW OF FAITH")

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
(NOTE: Man is justified = Declared righteous = by "FAITH" without the deeds of the law).

29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
(NOTE: He is God of BOTH, Jew & Gentile)

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
(NOTE: God justifies = Declared righteous. BOTH the circumcision = JEW, by "FAITH". And uncircumcision = GENTILES through "FAITH")

31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
(NOTE: If you'll read verse 31 in context. Its the new covenant LAW OF FAITH that Christ has established, just "REREAD vs 27".)

Kenny'sID · Apr 9, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
There are false or twisted teachings that are the literal opposite of these verses, yet most Christians would rather believe those liberal teachings. Should they have the right to call themselves Christians? Or will Jesus say to them, "I never knew you."

And yours are the very false and twisted teachings which you yourself speak of. A question for you follows this post.

You are taking the following to mean, sin doesn't count as sin with Christ, but that is absolutely untrue.

CharismaticLady said:
1 John 3:5-9
5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.

If that were true, why would Jesus instruct us to ask forgiveness of are sin?

Luke 11 King James Version (KJV)
11 And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.

2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

3 Give us day by day our daily bread.

4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

Question: Upon reading that scripture, does Christ tell us to ask forgiveness of our sin? And if we must ask forgiveness of our sin, does that mean to you, sin exists, or it does not exist?

What you are not understanding is, if we are truly sorry for and ask forgiveness olf our sin, the sin is fogiven and goes away.

But the way you see it is, not matter what we do, sin does not exist for us to begin with, because we "say" we have faith in Christ, something that leaves it open for us to live like the Devil, and not be concerned about it because it is not counted as sin from the beginning.

That, my friend, is a doctrine of the Devil. Don't you know he loves the fact some are pretending sin is not sin? And on top of that, they can now sin all they want, and no reason to ask forgiveness, because the evil they do never was sin to begin with, as long as they are in Christ.

People are being duped with provable false doctrine.

Question: You say the sin never existed to begin with if we are in Christ, meaning there is no reason to ask forgiveness, That being what you believe, do you agree you are saying Christs point of asking forgiveness is wrong on the grounds there is nothing to ask forgiveness for?

lsume · Apr 9, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
There are false or twisted teachings that are the literal opposite of these verses, yet most Christians would rather believe those liberal teachings. Should they have the right to call themselves Christians? Or will Jesus say to them, "I never knew you."

1 John 3:5-9
5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

1 John 5:18
18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.

John 8:32, 34-36
32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” ...
34 Jesus answered them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. 35 And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. 36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.

Romans 8:1-9
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

Romans 3:
30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

Mark 16:16-18
16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

John 15:7
7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.

1 John 3:21-22
21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. 22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

1 John 3:24
24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

2 Peter 1:5-9
5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.

Acts 2:38
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

How do you know or where did you find those Scriptures that liberals don’t like or abide by? The Word of God Stands True forever.

HARK! · Apr 9, 2020

BrotherJJ said:
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
(NOTE: Man is justified = Declared righteous = by "FAITH" without the deeds of the law).

How do you reconcile that with James?

(CLV) Ja 2:14
What is the benefit, my brethren, if anyone should be saying he has faith, yet may have no works? That faith can not save him.

(CLV) Ja 2:17
Thus, also, is faith, if it should not have works: it is dead by itself.

(CLV) Ja 2:18
But someone will be declaring, "You have faith and I have works." Show me your faith apart from the works and I shall be showing you my faith by my works.

(CLV) Ja 2:21
Abraham, our father, was he not justified by works when offering up his son Isaac on the altar?

(CLV) Ja 2:22
You are observing that faith worked together with his works, and by works was faith perfected.

(CLV) Ja 2:23
And fulfilled was the scripture which is saying, Now "Abraham believes God, and it is reckoned to him for righteousness," and he was called "the friend of God."

(CLV) Ja 2:24
You see that by works a man is being justified, and not by faith only.

(CLV) Ja 2:26
For even as the body apart from spirit is dead, thus also faith apart from works is dead.

bcbsr · Apr 9, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
There are false or twisted teachings that are the literal opposite of these verses, yet most Christians would rather believe those liberal teachings. Should they have the right to call themselves Christians? Or will Jesus say to them, "I never knew you."

1 John 3:5-9
5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

1 John 5:18
18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.

John 8:32, 34-36
32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” ...
34 Jesus answered them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. 35 And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. 36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.

Romans 8:1-9
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

Romans 3:
30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

Mark 16:16-18
16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

John 15:7
7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.

1 John 3:21-22
21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. 22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

1 John 3:24
24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

2 Peter 1:5-9
5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.

Acts 2:38
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

The "most" Christians I think you're referring to would say they believe those verses but may interpret them differently than you. I say "may" because you didn't provide your interpretation of those verses. How do you know that "most" Christians don't accept your interpretation of such verses? Have you done a survey or something?

As for my interpretation, the verses you're reference primarily have in common the idea that there is a correlation between a person's behavior and their salvation status.

I think 1John 3:9 gets at the reason behind that correlation, namely, as it states, "No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God." Due to the regenerate nature those born of God have a behavior characteristic of children of God.

You could have also include 1John 2:19 "They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us." Why is it that "if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us"? It's because the regenerate nature prevents children of God from falling away.

Or did you not include this verse because you're one of those "salvation by works" Christians who read salvation by works into the Bible?

The theme of 1John is about identifying those born of God and distinguishing them from children of the devil. The verse right after 1John 3:9 states, "This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother." 1John 3:10

People that oppose this view are Free Gracers - they deny the power of regeneration. And of course salvation by works Christians who view such verses as affirming their salvation by works soteriology.

BrotherJJ · Apr 9, 2020

HARK! said:
How do you reconcile that with James?

(CLV) Ja 2:14
What is the benefit, my brethren, if anyone should be saying he has faith, yet may have no works? That faith can not save him.

(CLV) Ja 2:17
Thus, also, is faith, if it should not have works: it is dead by itself.

(CLV) Ja 2:18
But someone will be declaring, "You have faith and I have works." Show me your faith apart from the works and I shall be showing you my faith by my works.

(CLV) Ja 2:21
Abraham, our father, was he not justified by works when offering up his son Isaac on the altar?

(CLV) Ja 2:22
You are observing that faith worked together with his works, and by works was faith perfected.

(CLV) Ja 2:23
And fulfilled was the scripture which is saying, Now "Abraham believes God, and it is reckoned to him for righteousness," and he was called "the friend of God."

(CLV) Ja 2:24
You see that by works a man is being justified, and not by faith only.

(CLV) Ja 2:26
For even as the body apart from spirit is dead, thus also faith apart from works is dead.

Hello, Here's how,

Scripture Study Tips:

When dissecting any verse of scripture. Ask yourself, of whom, to whom, with what words, what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what is written before and what follows any single verse context.
^^^Myles Coverdale, Bible theologian/translator^^^

James is writing to believing Jews prior to the Council at Jerusalem.

James was written between 38 & 49 AD. to Israelites still required to observe Mosaic laws, circumcision etc. Temple still operating & Gentiles weren't allowed beyond the dividing wall inside (Eph 2:14)

It's not until the council at Jerusalem 50-51 AD. Where after a vigorous debate (Acts 15:5-24) the Apostles conclude gentiles are not required to be circumcised or adhere to Mosaic laws (Acts 15:24). The gentile Gospel of salvation isn't found in James Epistle.

Jews, including the Lord himself (Matt 15:26) often referred to Gentiles as unclean "dogs". (See Matt 7:6; Lk 16:21)

Prior to the council at Jerusalem gentiles were considered bastards outside of covenant seals, so ungodly, simply being in their presence could make a Jew ceremonially unclean

Jn 18:28 Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover.
(NOTE: The Jews wouldn't even walk into the Roman/gentile judgment hall, lest they should be defiled/become unclean. They wouldn't enter because they wanted to eat the Passover meal on the next day. There was a 7 day ritual cleansing period that had to be honored once deemed unclean. Contact with a dead person or animal, a woman during her menstrual cycle etc.

Acts 10:28 Peter said unto them, Ye know how that it is an ""unlawful"" thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean
(NOTE: Peter tells Cornelius a gentile. IT'S UNLAWFUL for a Jew to keep company with a gentile)

Romans 15:4 (A) For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning,
(NOTE: ALL scripture is written for our learning. However, ALL scripture isn't written for our DOCTRINE. Example: Are we required to bring a sin sacrifice to the Temple priest?)

Final thought:
Though not written to gentiles, I believe gentiles can glean many truths from James writings.

Der Alte · Apr 9, 2020

HARK! said:
The original believers in Yahshua, had the Torah every Sabbath, a society that would enforce it; and preachers that were hand picked by Yahshua himself. Good times!

Jesus said nothing about gentile believers hearing Torah every Sabbath. In fact Jesus said they would be thrown out of the synagogues and even killed in the synagogues.

Matthew 10:17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
Matthew 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
Mark 13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

SeventyOne · Apr 9, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
There are false or twisted teachings that are the literal opposite of these verses, yet most Christians would rather believe those liberal teachings. Should they have the right to call themselves Christians? Or will Jesus say to them, "I never knew you."

1 John 3:5-9
5 And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6 Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

1 John 5:18
18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.

John 8:32, 34-36
32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” ...
34 Jesus answered them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin. 35 And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever. 36 Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.

Romans 8:1-9
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

Romans 3:
30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

Mark 16:16-18
16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

John 15:7
7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.

1 John 3:21-22
21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God. 22 And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

1 John 3:24
24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

2 Peter 1:5-9
5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.

Acts 2:38
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

At what point do you claim 'this is becoming the devil's territory and I'm resisting it in Jesus' name' as you did to me in that other thread a week and a half ago?

I did notice you omitted John's claim that 'children' in the Lord have an advocate when they sin, and Paul proclaiming that he had not yet achieved sinless perfection in Phillippians, or that Peter sinned and caused others to do so with him in Galatians. Were they too inconvenient?

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