Will the Levitical Priests make Sacrifices during the Millennial Reign?

HARK! · Apr 9, 2020

DavidPT said:
Ezekiel 45:22 And upon that day shall the prince prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering.

Take this verse, for instance. Are you not grasping what this suggests if Christ is meant here? The text doesn't say that the prince only prepares for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering, it says he prepares it for himself as well. Only sinners would be needing to prepare sin offerings for themselves and others.

I can't fully explain that; but I can offer this:

(CLV) Hb 7:12
For, the priesthood being transferred, of necessity there is coming to be a transference of law also,

The law concerning the High Priest was not done away with. That would contradict Yahshua stating that the law is eternal. The law applicable the the High Priesthood was transferred, along with the High Priesthood.

Yahshua can't break the law.

On the same token, why did Yahshua have John Baptize him in repentance? Repentance of what?

I suspect that in Yahshua's case, this is obedience to a law, that was intended for the High Priests before him. A good leader would ask his subordinates to do nothing that he wouldn't do himself; but I'm just guessing.

Daniel9v9 · Apr 9, 2020

HARK! said:
Here is what Yahshua says:

(CLV) Lk 16:17
Yet it is easier for heaven and earth to pass by than for one serif of the law to fall.

(CLV) Mt 5:17
"You should not infer that I came to demolish the law or the prophets. I came not to demolish, but to fulfill

(CLV) Mt 5:18
For verily, I am saying to you, Till heaven and earth should be passing by, one iota or one serif may by no means be passing by from the law till all should be occurring.

Here is what YHWH says:

PASSOVER

“And this day shall be unto youfor a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD {Yahweh} throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance FOREVER.” (Exodus 12:14)

UNLEAVENED BREAD

“And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance FOREVER.” (Exodus 12:17)

SHAVUOT (Feast of Weeks)

“And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute FOREVER in all your dwellings throughout your generations.” (Leviticus 23:21)

YOM KIPPUR

Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute FOREVER throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

FEAST OF TABERNACLES (Booths / Sukkot)

And ye shall keep it a feast unto YHWH seven days in the year. It shall be a statute FOREVER in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.(Leviticus 23:41)

Yahshua's apostles kept the feasts long after Yahshua's ascension; and the early church followed in their footsteps.

There are many ways I can explain this, but the easiest way is simply to refer back to what you quoted, when our Lord says:

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy them but to fulfill them. Amen I tell you: Until heaven and earth pass away, not even the smallest letter, or even part of a letter, will in any way pass away from the Law until everything is fulfilled."

That is, these are former things that found their fulfilment in Christ. We don't want to miss this, that Christ did not abolish, but fulfilled the Law and the Prophets. These things are, then, forever kept in Christ. That's why we're not required to celebrate the Sabbath, for example. Christ is our Sabbath-rest, and we celebrate it by receiving His Word and the forgiveness of sins, worshipping the Father through the Son, by the power of the Holy Spirit.

As for the claim that the early church keeping the festivals, that's not entirely true. It's very clear from both the early church and the NT itself that Christians have had the liberty to keep the holidays or not. The NT even contrasts how certain Judaisers forced upon some local churches the observance of OT practices (fulfilled by Christ), which was condemned by the Apostles. For example, see what the Council of Jerusalem decreed in Acts 15, which excluded all festivals - not because they're evil or unprofitable, but because they're fulfilled by the person and works of our Lord Jesus Christ. Or see Paul's letter to the Galatian church. Or again, see Romans 14 where Paul addresses the matter of holidays specifically.

We have to understand Scripture Christologically, because it all points to Jesus. We know this, because Christ explicitly said so - that all of Scripture is about Him. Just to add another example: Passover was fulfilled by Christ, who is our Passover Lamb, who takes away the sin of the world. And we continue to receive it through His Word, in Baptism, and in the Eucharist; Christ's body and blood given for us.

So, it's not that we don't keep these holidays, but rather, that they are fulfilled in Christ and kept forever in Him.

HARK! · Apr 9, 2020

Daniel9v9 said:
There are many ways I can explain this, but the easiest way is simply to refer back to what you quoted, when our Lord says:

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy them but to fulfill them. Amen I tell you: Until heaven and earth pass away, not even the smallest letter, or even part of a letter, will in any way pass away from the Law until everything is fulfilled."

That is, these are former things that found their fulfilment in Christ. We don't want to miss this, that Christ did not abolish, but fulfilled the Law and the Prophets. These things are, then, forever kept in Christ. That's why we're not required to celebrate the Sabbath, for example. Christ is our Sabbath-rest, and we celebrate it by receiving His Word and the forgiveness of sins, worshipping the Father through the Son, by the power of the Holy Spirit.

This might make sense if ALL of the prophesies had been fulfilled. They haven't. There is much more to come; and heaven and earth will testify that not one serif of the law has fallen.

Daniel9v9 · Apr 9, 2020

HARK! said:
This might make sense if ALL of the prophesies had been fulfilled. They haven't. There is much more to come; and heaven and earth will testify that not one serif of the law has fallen.

Yes, but we can know from the NT what has (the Law and the Prophets) and what has not (namely the coming of our Lord) been fulfilled, and as I illustrated above, we can know for certain that these ordinances have undoubtedly been fulfilled in Christ. He said so plainly on several occasions, the Apostles taught this, so did the early church, and the church still confesses this to our day.

HARK! · Apr 9, 2020

Daniel9v9 said:
Yes, but we can know from the NT what has (the Law and the Prophets) and what has not (namely the coming of our Lord) been fulfilled, and as I illustrated above, we can know for certain that these ordinances have undoubtedly been fulfilled in Christ. He said so plainly on several occasions, the Apostles taught this, so did the early church, and the church still confesses this to our day.

Again all of the prophecies have not all been been fulfilled; and he tied those to the law. No matter; in a separate instance he said this:

(CLV) Lk 16:17
Yet it is easier for heaven and earth to pass by than for one serif of THE LAW to fall.

Nothing about prophets here. Nothing about fulfillment either. Just heaven, earth, and the law.

createdtoworship · Apr 9, 2020

jgr said:
Scripture disagrees.

Hebrews 10
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

sir that is for sin, as it says right there. Millenial sacrifices will simply be symbolic. Sort of like baptism. Baptism is not about the water, it's not about getting wet. It is symbolic of the old man dying and a new man rising. It's no different. Scripture talks alot about the sacrifices in the millenium. It won't be for atonement, but it will still be sacrifices. "sacrifices of praise" are also pleasing to the Lord (Hebrews 13:15). And that is just a few chapters after your post that sacrifice is not pleasing. So I guess there is a direct contradiction. Hebrews 10:6 says God has no pleasure, yet Hebrews 13 says to offer a sacrifice of praise continually. So we must modify the idea that all sacrifice is wrong. Is it burnt sacrifice is wrong? Well again God loved the smell of burnt offerings in the old testament because that meant He could in turn come close to his people. Without that temporary covering of sin, God would punish the ancient Jews with Hell, and death. So unless you want adam and moses in hell. I would say old testament sacrifice was pretty important. Again in the new testament there were hebrews that were still burning atonement offerings, and that is what He forbids in Hebrews 10:6, that hole chapter is about going back under the law . But then in chapter 13 it says some sacrifice is ok. So again it depends on what type of sacrifice you are offering. I believe prophecy will be fulfilled and the Jewish temple will be fully functional with the promised messiah bringing in a physical kingdom. You have to remember this was all promised to Israel. They would have their messiah, and He would bring peace. So again I don't look at it as blasphemy at all, its a very beautiful sybolic act of Christ's everlasting sacrifice just like baptism is symbolic of the old man dying.

Daniel9v9 · Apr 9, 2020

HARK! said:
Again all of the prophecies have not all been been fulfilled; and he tied those to the law. No matter; in a separate instance he said this:

(CLV) Lk 16:17
Yet it is easier for heaven and earth to pass by than for one serif of THE LAW to fall.

Nothing about prophets here. Nothing about fulfillment either. Just heaven, earth, and the law.

No, not all prophecies have been fulfilled, because Christ will certainly return in glory to judge the living and the dead. But, again, the ordinances you mentioned - the temple with the sacrificial system and the holidays - have been fulfilled, for they all pointed to and culminated in Jesus Christ. The NT is very explicit on this.

Once again, let's use the obvious example of the Passover. To claim that Christians do not keep the Passover and that they must keep it in the manner the OT specifies is to be in error. For the Passover is both completed and kept in Christ; He is our true Passover Lamb, who takes away the sin of the world.

To make it very clear:

Does this mean that we must keep the Passover as specified in the OT?
No, because Christ fulfilled it. The OT Passover was a shadow of Christ, who is the real Lamb of God.

Does this mean that the Passover has seized?
No, for although Christ fulfilled it, Christians do keep it through the receiving of God's Word, and in Baptism, and in the Eucharist, which is all the same: The body and blood of Jesus Christ given to us; Jesus Christ once and for all died for our sins; The Gospel. This promise and reality, that is, salvation, is eternal.

Does this mean that we can't celebrate the Passover as specified in the OT?
No, we can, reflecting on God's deliverance of Israel and knowing that Christ is the one who delivers us from sin and death.

Will the Passover as specified in the OT be re-instituted in the future?
No, for the same reason mentioned above, namely that Jesus Christ is the Passover Lamb, and this will never change.

How should we understand the Passover?
In a word, we should think of Jesus Christ. Jesus, on Passover, the night when He was betrayed, instituted the Eucharist for us to keep in remembrance of Him. It is a communion of the body and blood of Christ, who is the true Passover Lamb.

In this way, we can correctly understand how the ordinance of Passover correlates to us in Christ. And in the same way, all the other ordinances both found their fulfilment in Jesus Christ and are kept in Him.

HARK! · Apr 9, 2020

Daniel9v9 said:
Does this mean that we must keep the Passover as specified in the OT?
No, because Christ fulfilled it. The OT Passover was a shadow of Christ, who is the real Lamb of God.

Messiah kept all of the law. Does that mean we can ignore it all? If not, by what standard do we get to pick and choose?

Daniel9v9 said:
Does this mean that the Passover has seized?
No, for although Christ fulfilled it, Christians do keep it through the receiving of God's Word, and in Baptism, and in the Eucharist, which is all the same: The body and blood of Jesus Christ given to us; Jesus Christ once and for all died for our sins; The Gospel. This promise and reality, that is, salvation, is eternal.

YHWH says forever. Who should I believe?

PASSOVER

“And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD {Yahweh} throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance FOREVER.” (Exodus 12:14)

A memorial...interesting choice of words.

Daniel9v9 said:
Will the Passover as specified in the OT be re-instituted in the future?
No, for the same reason mentioned above, namely that Jesus Christ is the Passover Lamb, and this will never change.

Yahshua seems to say differently. Who should I believe?

(CLV) Lk 22:15
And He said to them, "With yearning I yearn to be eating this passover with you before My suffering.

(CLV) Lk 22:16
For I am saying to you that under no circumstances may I be eating of it till it may be fulfilled in the kingdom of God."

When will that be? The way I have it figured, 1000 years minimum.

Daniel9v9 said:
How should we understand the Passover?
In a word, we should think of Jesus Christ. Jesus, on Passover, the night when He was betrayed, instituted the Eucharist for us to keep in remembrance of Him. It is a communion of the body and blood of Christ, who is the true Passover Lamb.

The Eucharist is not Passover. YHWH gave very specific instructions for Passover. I don't do strange fire. We are to remember Yahshua as often as we have bread and wine (...or grape juice in my opinion. I could even go as far as to say every time we eat or drink.) I try to remember that he is my lifeline, far more often than that.

Daniel9v9 · Apr 9, 2020

HARK! said:
Messiah kept all of the law. Does that mean we can ignore it all? If not, by what standard do we get to pick and choose?

YHWH says forever. Who should I believe?

PASSOVER

“And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD {Yahweh} throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance FOREVER.” (Exodus 12:14)

A memorial...interesting choice of words.

Yahshua seems to say differently. Who should I believe?

(CLV) Lk 22:15
And He said to them, "With yearning I yearn to be eating this passover with you before My suffering.

(CLV) Lk 22:16
For I am saying to you that under no circumstances may I be eating of it till it may be fulfilled in the kingdom of God."

When will that be? The way I have it figured, 1000 years minimum.

The Eucharist is not Passover. YHWH gave very specific instructions for Passover. I don't do strange fire. We are to remember Yahshua as often as we have bread and wine (...or grape juice in my opinion. I could even go as far as to say every time we eat or drink.) I try to remember that he is my lifeline, far more often than that.

Some very confused statements and some serious errors here.

Yes, Christ kept the Law, because He fulfilled it in our place. And the Passover is clearly foreshadowing Christ, and its connection with the Eucharist is not by chance - it's highly significant. There is a lot I can say, but let me just boil it down to this:

Jesus Christ is YHWH; God in flesh. We do not pick and choose which ordinances to observe, but we are explicitly told by Jesus, YHWH, that He fulfilled them, and that we do keep them in Him. It's not that these ordinances have been abolished, but rather that they pointed to and culminated in person and works of Jesus Christ, and by this, are forever, for Christ is the Alpha and Omega.

HARK! · Apr 9, 2020

Daniel9v9 said:
Some very confused statements and some serious errors here.

Yes, Christ kept the Law, because He fulfilled it in our place. And the Passover is clearly foreshadowing Christ, and its connection with the Eucharist is not by chance - it's highly significant. There is a lot I can say, but let me just boil it down to this:

Jesus Christ is YHWH; God in flesh. We do not pick and choose which ordinances to observe, but we are explicitly told by Jesus, YHWH, that He fulfilled them, and that we do keep them in Him. It's not that these ordinances have been abolished, but rather that they pointed to and culminated in person and works of Jesus Christ, and by this, are forever, for Christ is the Alpha and Omega.

The Father is not the Son. There are three, not two; but let's not digress.

Daniel9v9 · Apr 9, 2020

HARK! said:
The Father is not the Son. There are three, not two; but let's not digress.

I never said the Father is the Son. There's one God, in the person of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is fully God and fully man. In Christ, the fullness of God dwells bodily.

We undoubtedly can and should recognise that Jesus Christ is YHWH in flesh. YHWH is not the divine name reserved for the Father only, but is correctly the holy name of the fullness of God. In other words, there is one God, and that God is YHWH. We can know this (1) from the Shema Yisrael, (2) because this holy name was revealed by the visible manifestation of God, (3) because Jesus Christ claims the name YHWH for Himself, (4) the Apostles attribute this name to Jesus, and (5) it's clear from the whole Gospel narrative. Jesus Christ is Immanuel; God with us.

The point being, whatever Jesus declares, fulfils and institutes in the NT is nothing less than the true word of YHWH. Jesus Christ is the Word of God.

HARK! · Apr 9, 2020

Daniel9v9 said:
3) because Jesus Christ claims the name YHWH for Himself,

He didn't claim the name. It was his given name.

Messiah said that he came in YHWHs name.

(CLV) Jn 5:43
I have come in the name of My Father, (Yah) and you are not getting Me. If another should be coming in his own name, him you will get.

The Messiah's name is a sentence name, as many Hebrew names are. Yah is the hyphenated, or poetic, form of YHWH. Shua, is the Hebrew word for salvation. Our Messiah's name is Yahshua, or YHWH is salvation, or YHWH saves.

Matthew 1:21
Now she shall be bringing forth a Son, and you shall be calling His name Yahshua, for He' (Yah) shall be saving (shua) His (YHWH's) people from their sins."

Therefore, by saying "believe on the name of His Son Yah-shua;" It can correctly interpreted as "believe YHWH is salvation"

This is further supported in scripture.

YesheYahu (Isa) 43:
11 I, even I, am YHWH; and beside Me there is no savior.

YesheYahu (Isa) 45:21-25
21 Tell and bring them near; yes let them take counsel together: who has declared this from ancient time? who has told it from that time? have not I YHWH? and there is no Elohiym else beside Me; a just Elohiym and a Savior; there is none beside Me.22 Look to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am Elohiym, and there is none else.

Hoshea 13:4
4 Yet I am YHWH, your Elohiym from the land of Egypt, and you shall know no ‘god’ but Me: for there is no savior besides Me.

YesheYahu (Isa) 12:2
2 Behold, Elohiym is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for Yahh YHWH is my strength and my song; He is also my salvation.

(CLV) Ac 4:12
And there is no salvation in any other one, for neither is there any other name, given under heaven among men, in which we must be saved."

Yah saves us through Yahshua.

Yah shua!

HARK! · Apr 9, 2020

Daniel9v9 said:
Jesus Christ is the Word of God.

(CLV) Jn 14:6
Jesus is saying to him, "I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one is coming to the Father except through Me.

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THE WAY
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(CLV) Ex 18:20
You will warn them with the statutes and the laws and make known to them the way in which they shall go and the deeds which they shall do.

(CLV) Dt 10:12
And now, Israel, what is Yahweh your Elohim asking of you, save to fear Yahweh your Elohim, to walk in all His ways, to love Him and to serve Yahweh your Elohim with all your heart and with all your soul,

(CLV) Jos 22:5
But observe meticulously to keep the instruction and the law that M woses the servant of Yahweh enjoined on you: to love Yahweh your Elohim and to walk in all His ways, to observe His instructions, to cling to Him and to serve Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

(CLV) 1Ki 2:3
You will keep the charge of Yahweh your Elohim to walk in His ways, to observe His statutes and His instructions, His ordinances and His testimonies as written in the law of Moses, so that you may act intelligently in all that you do and everywhere that you turn around,

(CLV) Ps 119:1
Happy are those whose way is flawless, Who are walking in the law of Yahweh.

(CLV) Pr 6:23
For instruction is a lamp, and law is a light, And the reproofs of admonition are the way to life,

(CLV) Isa 2:3
Many peoples will come and say: Come, and let us ascend to the Mount of Yahweh, To the house of the Elohim of Jacob; And He shall direct us out of His ways, So that we may indeed walk in His paths. For from Zion shall go forth the law, And the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem.

(CLV) Mal 2:8
Yet you withdraw from the way. You cause many to stumble at the law. You ruin the covenant of Levi, says Yahweh of hosts.

(CLV) Ac 24:14
"Yet I am avowing this to you, that, according to the way which they are terming a sect, thus am I offering divine service to the hereditary God, believing all that is written, according to the law and in the prophets,

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THE TRUTH
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(CLV) Ps 119:142
Your righteousness is eonian righteousness, And Your law is truth.

(CLV) Mal 2:6
The law of truth, it came to be in his mouth, and iniquity, it was not found on his lips. In peace and in uprightness he walked with Me, and turned many back from depravity.

(CLV) Jn 8:31
Jesus, then, said to the Jews who have believed Him, "If ever you should be remaining in My word, you are truly My disciples,

(CLV) Jn 8:32
and you will know the truth, and the truth will be making you free."

(CLV) Ro 2:20
a discipliner of the imprudent, a teacher of minors, having the form of knowledge and the truth in the law.

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THE LIFE
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(CLV) Jb 33:30
To restore his soul from the pit, To enlighten him with the light of the living.

(CLV) Ps 36:9
For with You is the fountain of life; In Your light shall we see light.

(CLV) Pr 6:23
For instruction is a lamp, and law is a light, And the reproofs of admonition are the way to life

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THE LIGHT
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(CLV) Jn 8:12
Again, then, Jesus speaks to them, saying, "I am the Light of the world. He who is following Me should under no circumstances be walking in darkness, but will be having the light of life."

(CLV) Jb 24:13
They are among those revolting against the light; They neither recognize its ways Nor dwell in its tracks.

(CLV) Ps 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet, And a light to my tracks.

(CLV) Pr 6:23
For instruction is a lamp, and law is a light, And the reproofs of admonition are the way to life,

(CLV) Isa 51:4
Attend to Me, My people, And, My folk, give ear to Me! For a law shall go forth from Me, And My judgment for a light of the peoples.

(CLV) 2Co 6:14
Do not become diversely yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness? Or what communion has light with darkness?

(CLV) 1Jn 1:7
Yet if we should be walking in the light as He is in the light, we are having fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, is cleansing us from every sin.

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THE WORD
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(CLV) Jn 1:14
And the Word became flesh and tabernacles among us, and we gaze at His glory, a glory as of an only-begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

(CLV) Isa 2:3
Many peoples will come and say: Come, and let us ascend to the Mount of Yahweh, To the house of the Elohim of Jacob; And He shall direct us out of His ways, So that we may indeed walk in His paths. For from Zion shall go forth the law, And the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem.

(CLV) Jn 8:31
Jesus, then, said to the Jews who have believed Him, "If ever you should be remaining in My word, you are truly My disciples,

(CLV) Jn 8:32
and you will know the truth, and the truth will be making you free."

(CLV) Ps 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet, And a light to my tracks.

Yahshua is the living Torah!

If we walk in his ways; we walk in the Torah.

Hallelu YAH!

Daniel9v9 · Apr 9, 2020

HARK! said:
He didn't claim the name. It was his given name.

Messiah said that he came in YHWHs name.

(CLV) Jn 5:43
I have come in the name of My Father, (Yah) and you are not getting Me. If another should be coming in his own name, him you will get.

The Messiah's name is a sentence name, as many Hebrew names are. Yah is the hyphenated, or poetic, form of YHWH. Shua, is the Hebrew word for salvation. Our Messiah's name is Yahshua, or YHWH is salvation, or YHWH saves.

Matthew 1:21
Now she shall be bringing forth a Son, and you shall be calling His name Yahshua, for He' (Yah) shall be saving (shua) His (YHWH's) people from their sins."

Therefore, by saying "believe on the name of His Son Yah-shua;" It can correctly interpreted as "believe YHWH is salvation"

This is further supported in scripture.

YesheYahu (Isa) 43:
11 I, even I, am YHWH; and beside Me there is no savior.

YesheYahu (Isa) 45:21-25
21 Tell and bring them near; yes let them take counsel together: who has declared this from ancient time? who has told it from that time? have not I YHWH? and there is no Elohiym else beside Me; a just Elohiym and a Savior; there is none beside Me.22 Look to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am Elohiym, and there is none else.

Hoshea 13:4
4 Yet I am YHWH, your Elohiym from the land of Egypt, and you shall know no ‘god’ but Me: for there is no savior besides Me.

YesheYahu (Isa) 12:2
2 Behold, Elohiym is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for Yahh YHWH is my strength and my song; He is also my salvation.

(CLV) Ac 4:12
And there is no salvation in any other one, for neither is there any other name, given under heaven among men, in which we must be saved."

Yah shua!

Some confusion here. I know the meaning of the name Jesus and the title Christ, but when I mentioned Jesus claiming the divine name, I'm referring to the I AM statements in John. These are the Greek renditions of the holy name YHWH, so although it's not so apparent in English, John is letting us know that Jesus is YHWH in the Greek.

HARK! said:
(CLV) Jn 14:6
Jesus is saying to him, "I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one is coming to the Father except through Me.

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THE WAY
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(CLV) Ex 18:20
You will warn them with the statutes and the laws and make known to them the way in which they shall go and the deeds which they shall do.

(CLV) Dt 10:12
And now, Israel, what is Yahweh your Elohim asking of you, save to fear Yahweh your Elohim, to walk in all His ways, to love Him and to serve Yahweh your Elohim with all your heart and with all your soul,

(CLV) Jos 22:5
But observe meticulously to keep the instruction and the law that M woses the servant of Yahweh enjoined on you: to love Yahweh your Elohim and to walk in all His ways, to observe His instructions, to cling to Him and to serve Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

(CLV) 1Ki 2:3
You will keep the charge of Yahweh your Elohim to walk in His ways, to observe His statutes and His instructions, His ordinances and His testimonies as written in the law of Moses, so that you may act intelligently in all that you do and everywhere that you turn around,

(CLV) Ps 119:1
Happy are those whose way is flawless, Who are walking in the law of Yahweh.

(CLV) Pr 6:23
For instruction is a lamp, and law is a light, And the reproofs of admonition are the way to life,

(CLV) Isa 2:3
Many peoples will come and say: Come, and let us ascend to the Mount of Yahweh, To the house of the Elohim of Jacob; And He shall direct us out of His ways, So that we may indeed walk in His paths. For from Zion shall go forth the law, And the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem.

(CLV) Mal 2:8
Yet you withdraw from the way. You cause many to stumble at the law. You ruin the covenant of Levi, says Yahweh of hosts.

(CLV) Ac 24:14
"Yet I am avowing this to you, that, according to the way which they are terming a sect, thus am I offering divine service to the hereditary God, believing all that is written, according to the law and in the prophets,

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THE TRUTH
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(CLV) Ps 119:142
Your righteousness is eonian righteousness, And Your law is truth.

(CLV) Mal 2:6
The law of truth, it came to be in his mouth, and iniquity, it was not found on his lips. In peace and in uprightness he walked with Me, and turned many back from depravity.

(CLV) Jn 8:31
Jesus, then, said to the Jews who have believed Him, "If ever you should be remaining in My word, you are truly My disciples,

(CLV) Jn 8:32
and you will know the truth, and the truth will be making you free."

(CLV) Ro 2:20
a discipliner of the imprudent, a teacher of minors, having the form of knowledge and the truth in the law.

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THE LIFE
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(CLV) Jb 33:30
To restore his soul from the pit, To enlighten him with the light of the living.

(CLV) Ps 36:9
For with You is the fountain of life; In Your light shall we see light.

(CLV) Pr 6:23
For instruction is a lamp, and law is a light, And the reproofs of admonition are the way to life

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THE LIGHT
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(CLV) Jn 8:12
Again, then, Jesus speaks to them, saying, "I am the Light of the world. He who is following Me should under no circumstances be walking in darkness, but will be having the light of life."

(CLV) Jb 24:13
They are among those revolting against the light; They neither recognize its ways Nor dwell in its tracks.

(CLV) Ps 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet, And a light to my tracks.

(CLV) Pr 6:23
For instruction is a lamp, and law is a light, And the reproofs of admonition are the way to life,

(CLV) Isa 51:4
Attend to Me, My people, And, My folk, give ear to Me! For a law shall go forth from Me, And My judgment for a light of the peoples.

(CLV) 2Co 6:14
Do not become diversely yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness? Or what communion has light with darkness?

(CLV) 1Jn 1:7
Yet if we should be walking in the light as He is in the light, we are having fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, is cleansing us from every sin.

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THE WORD
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(CLV) Jn 1:14
And the Word became flesh and tabernacles among us, and we gaze at His glory, a glory as of an only-begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

(CLV) Isa 2:3
Many peoples will come and say: Come, and let us ascend to the Mount of Yahweh, To the house of the Elohim of Jacob; And He shall direct us out of His ways, So that we may indeed walk in His paths. For from Zion shall go forth the law, And the word of Yahweh from Jerusalem.

(CLV) Jn 8:31
Jesus, then, said to the Jews who have believed Him, "If ever you should be remaining in My word, you are truly My disciples,

(CLV) Jn 8:32
and you will know the truth, and the truth will be making you free."

(CLV) Ps 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet, And a light to my tracks.

Yahshua is the living Torah!

If we walk in his ways; we walk in the Torah.

Hallelu YAH!

Yes, Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. He is also called the Word (Logos) of God, specifically in John 1. This means that He is the visible manifestation of the invisible God. Colossians 1:15

Dave L · Apr 9, 2020

To preach the third temple with animal sacrifices called for by Ezekiel, not to be understood literally, is to trample the blood of Christ underfoot.

HARK! · Apr 9, 2020

Daniel9v9 said:
Some confusion here. I know the meaning of the name Jesus and the title Christ, but when I mentioned Jesus claiming the divine name, I'm referring to the I AM statements in John. These are the Greek renditions of the holy name YHWH, so although it's not so apparent in English, John is letting us know that Jesus is YHWH in the Greek.

Without predicate nominative
It is also used without a predicate nominative, which is not very common in Koine Greek, thus some interpret it as Jesus' own self-declaration as God. In John 8:24 Jesus states: "For unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins", and later the crowd attempts to stone Jesus in response to his statement in John 8:58: "Before Abraham was, I am.". Many other translations including the ASV have rendered John 8:24 as something like "... For unless you believe that I am [he], you will die in your sins.". Some consider the phrase in John 8:58 to be grammatically different from that in John 8:24, as the copulative verb can be used with any predicative expression and not only a predicate nominative, such as in "ὅπου εἰμὶ ἐγὼ καὶ ὑμεῖς ἦτε" ("where I am, you also may be") in John 14:3. "πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι" ("before Abraham was") can be taken as a predicative prepositional phrase, thus "ἐγώ εἰμὶ" ("I am") in John 8:58 does not grammatically require a predicate nominative, however it is rather unusual for a present tense verb to be used with a temporal adverb like πρὶν in a declarative statement, though there are rare exceptions outside the New Testament. Thus explanations of John 8:58 generally depend on theology and not Greek grammar.

I am (biblical term) - Wikipedia

HARK! · Apr 9, 2020

Daniel9v9 said:
He is also called the Word (Logos) of God, specifically in John 1

I covered that already. You didn't finish reading. If the whole foundation of your arguments regarding prophecy is that the Son is YHWH; then I'm afraid that we've reached an impasse.

Psalm 2:7
“I will declare the decree: Yahweh hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

sovereigngrace · Apr 9, 2020

HARK! said:
The Moedim (feasts) of YHWH are appointments with YHWH. They are also rehearsals. We are to learn from these rehearsals.

What might Sukkot (feast of tents) be attempting to tell us.

We build a temporary shelter under the stars and camp out for a week. it's a time to reflect on how this world is only temporary. Moses was in the tent under YHWH's care. It's time to remember that we rely on YHWH's covering. It's a joyous time. The chuppah (wedding tent) is similar to the sukkah (tent). Many make the connection of Sukkot to the wedding feast. The timing fits.

Feast of trumpets - final trump, coronation of the King.
Day of atonement- at one ment, humbling ones self before the husband and King
Sukkot-wedding celebration, conclusion of the Moedim.

YHWH says all of his Moedim (feasts) are forever.

Colossians 2:14 plainly and unambiguously declares, that Christ's atonement resulted in the “Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.”

The Greek word for “Blotting out” here is exaleiphō (eks-ä-lā'-fō) meaning: ‘to wipe off, wipe away, to obliterate, erase, wipe out, blot out’

These old covenant ordinances (rites and rituals) pertaining to the ceremonial law were obliterated at the cross.

For those that still anticipate the renaissance of the old abolished ordinances we need to ask: When did (or will) the “blotting out the handwriting of ordinances” occur? From this passage it is clear, Christ “took it out of the way” by “nailing it to his cross.” These ordinances embraced the old covenant civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical law. They were finished at the cross.

Daniel9v9 · Apr 9, 2020

HARK! said:
Without predicate nominative
It is also used without a predicate nominative, which is not very common in Koine Greek, thus some interpret it as Jesus' own self-declaration as God. In John 8:24 Jesus states: "For unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins", and later the crowd attempts to stone Jesus in response to his statement in John 8:58: "Before Abraham was, I am.". Many other translations including the ASV have rendered John 8:24 as something like "... For unless you believe that I am [he], you will die in your sins.". Some consider the phrase in John 8:58 to be grammatically different from that in John 8:24, as the copulative verb can be used with any predicative expression and not only a predicate nominative, such as in "ὅπου εἰμὶ ἐγὼ καὶ ὑμεῖς ἦτε" ("where I am, you also may be") in John 14:3. "πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι" ("before Abraham was") can be taken as a predicative prepositional phrase, thus "ἐγώ εἰμὶ" ("I am") in John 8:58 does not grammatically require a predicate nominative, however it is rather unusual for a present tense verb to be used with a temporal adverb like πρὶν in a declarative statement, though there are rare exceptions outside the New Testament. Thus explanations of John 8:58 generally depend on theology and not Greek grammar.

I am (biblical term) - Wikipedia

Yes, but we need to understand why John uses the language he does. It's not random and it holds real significance, and this idea that Jesus is God in flesh is absolutely central to his Gospel account. We can understand the significance of the I AM statements from its immediate and broader context, as well as their numbering. It's well worth studying and meditating over.

HARK! said:
I covered that already. You didn't finish reading. If the whole foundation of your arguments regarding prophecy is that the Son is YHWH; then I'm afraid that we've reached an impasse.

Psalm 2:7
“I will declare the decree: Yahweh hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Jesus is the Son of God; He is the Son incarnate, begotten of the Father, but as said several times over, He is fully God and fully man. He is God in flesh; The fullness of God dwells in Him bodily; He is YHWH in bodily form. I sincerely hope you don't question the divinity (or the humanity for that matter) of Christ, for that would be a most serious error. To deny the divinity of Christ would be Arianism, which is a heresy condemned by the church.

To make it very plain and to avoid any confusion, I hold to the three Ecumenical Creeds: The Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed. In the Athanasian Creed, we have a good summary of the Biblical Trinitarian nature of our Lord.

Getting Christology right is crucial to understanding all of Scripture, including Eschatology. For it is in Christ that everything has its right place, for all things are made through Him and for Him.

sovereigngrace · Apr 9, 2020

HARK! said:
Here is what Yahshua says:

(CLV) Lk 16:17
Yet it is easier for heaven and earth to pass by than for one serif of the law to fall.

(CLV) Mt 5:17
"You should not infer that I came to demolish the law or the prophets. I came not to demolish, but to fulfill

(CLV) Mt 5:18
For verily, I am saying to you, Till heaven and earth should be passing by, one iota or one serif may by no means be passing by from the law till all should be occurring.

Here is what YHWH says:

PASSOVER

“And this day shall be unto youfor a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD {Yahweh} throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance FOREVER.” (Exodus 12:14)

UNLEAVENED BREAD

“And ye shall observe the feast of unleavened bread; for in this selfsame day have I brought your armies out of the land of Egypt: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance FOREVER.” (Exodus 12:17)

SHAVUOT (Feast of Weeks)

“And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute FOREVER in all your dwellings throughout your generations.” (Leviticus 23:21)

YOM KIPPUR

Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute FOREVER throughout your generations in all your dwellings.

FEAST OF TABERNACLES (Booths / Sukkot)

And ye shall keep it a feast unto YHWH seven days in the year. It shall be a statute FOREVER in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.(Leviticus 23:41)

Yahshua's apostles kept the feasts long after Yahshua's ascension; and the early church followed in their footsteps.

The English word “for ever” (or “forever”) means everlasting or eternal. It means something that never ends. It denotes endless, ceaseless, perpetual, undying, unbroken, unending, and interminable.

Has Israel endlessly, without a break, maintained their strict temple sacrificial system and festival in compliance with the old covenant blueprint? No!!! It therefore doesn't meet the English meaning of “forever.” The very meaning of the Hebrew word interpreted forever (`owlam) forbids an eternal interpretation. So, what does the word `owlam mean?

Before going there, it is very useful (and sometimes necessary) to examine the root word of any Hebrew or Greek word in order to get a deeper sense of its meaning. In the case of the `owlam it would be helpful to our understanding to consider its origin. It derives from the Hebrew word `alam (Strong’s 5956) which means to veil, hide from sight or conceal.

This gives us the idea of ‘out of sight’.

Strong’s says: `owlam (o-lawm'); or `olam (o-lawm') means “properly, concealed, i.e. the vanishing point; generally, time out of mind (past or future).”

When referring to time, this word essentially means time out of sight. The sense of the word is basically beyond our view. It can relate to either the distant past or the distant future. Whilst the word does not necessarily mean eternity, it can refer to eternity. As one examines the various usages of this word in Scripture, one quickly grasps the truth of that it mainly refers to distant time.

Here we have concrete proof that this word carries a broader meaning than what many attribute to it. The “vanishing point” of any reality can refer to the past or the future. It can refer to distant reality. Whilst we could identify the word with eternity, no one with any understanding of the use of the word in the Old Testament could with any legitimacy rigidly restrict it to that.

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Will the Levitical Priests make Sacrifices during the Millennial Reign?

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