Could the ten kings be companies, not countries?

i understand Capitalism to be the Beast of the earth, (colonisation was the beast of the sea,) and large companies are the logical result as our rulers because of our service to Capitalism. Kings that rule this world for an hour.

Spiritually it goes precisely the same. In this world love/need for money conquers many a life and rules it with power. Christ sets us free from its dominion and teaches us a loving generous heart which puts God and people first and thwarts the beast's ways.

Peace.

"Sovereignty" which is a buzz word, resides partly in miscellaneous "enclaves" or "territories"; and every time we try to enumerate we will get a different count of ten; hence the principle of the spirit of exerting unrighteous power over those smaller than ourselves is what counts as Jeshu points out. As long as we don't join in that spirit, in our personal & church relationships, we are open to somehow seeing God's will for us (I think).

Richard T said:

Thanks in advance for any serous discussion on this end-time topic.

“The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13They have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

I have been taught that the ten kings were EU countries, or some believe a Muslim alliance. What I am wondering though if it is possible that the ten kings are not governments but instead large companies? I ask because there are now companies that have more power and strength than many individual nations. I won't name names, but there are companies that have the data and control that would be ideal for the beast. That they "have not yet received a kingdom" seems to indicate they are outside the governmental system. Thanks in advance for any thoughts and discussion on this.

It is interesting to note too that while most companies are loaded with debt, the largest tech companies are flush with cash. Alphabet (Google), Amazon, Apple, Microsoft and Facebook have a “combined $587 billion in cash against just $200 billion in long-term debt.” Coronavirus Has Created a Rare Opportunity to Buy Dominant Tech Companies on the Cheap

The biggest tech leaders also have meetings with the Pope. Apple CEO Tim Cook met with Pope Francis at the Vatican

Pope Francis to join Google's Eric Schmidt in rare tech industry meeting

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The book of Daniel describes "beasts" as kingdoms ... and kingdoms have governing authority.

ewq1938 said:

"who have not yet received a kingdom"

This refutes the idea that these kings have kingdoms now so it cannot be any existing kings or companies.

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Not really. Unless you believe that every Bible will be supernaturally re written to remove that part when the prophesied events come to pass.

A company just does not have the coercive force that government possesses. Companies are not actually very powerful at all. As one can see demonstrated during this particular crisis we are now in. This is why I have never once in my life been concerned about what a company might decide to do to me and have always been aware of the vast harm a government can impose upon people.

Jeshu said:

i understand Capitalism to be the Beast of the earth, (colonisation was the beast of the sea,) and large companies are the logical result as our rulers because of our service to Capitalism. Kings that rule this world for an hour.

Spiritually it goes precisely the same. In this world love/need for money conquers many a life and rules it with power. Christ sets us free from its dominion and teaches us a loving generous heart which puts God and people first and thwarts the beast's ways.

Peace.

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Most don't really don't understand what Capitalism is about, they only know what Communists and Socialists say it is.


Encyclopaedia Britannica defines it thusly...

"Capitalism, also called free market economy or free enterprise economy, economic system, dominant in the Western world since the breakup of feudalism, in which most means of production are privately owned and production is guided and income distributed largely through the operation of markets."

Under Socialism/Communism the means of production is owned by the State, and not by the individual, and thus NOT by the people. The claim under that system is equal distribution to everyone according to one's needs. No such fulfillment has ever existed in nations using that system because the means of production are too low to fulfill it. This is why many EU countries' economies are going down the drain. Under the Communist system, everything is owned by the State, and they determine who is to have it, even if you created it. People and their children are deemed as property under a Communist system, so the party claims the right to do with you what they will. There is no private ownership, so even the clothes on your back technically don't belong to you under that system.

In early Jamestown in the 1600's, its settlers used principles of socialism the first year for food distribution. No matter how hard one worked, you got the same as everyone else. So those who barely worked got the same. Many starved that first year. This kind of thing destroys individual incentive to work hard. The result is lower production. Under a Communist system the workers are severely punished for not making quota, so it becomes a slave system to the State.

In Jamestown, the following year, the rule changed to the Biblical rule of capitalism. If you didn't work you didn't eat (2 Thessalonians 3:10). And whatever you produced you kept, and your abundance was free to sell or trade. No one starved that year and there was an over abundance.

Isa 65:21-23
21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of My people, and Mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.
KJV

At present, western countries are less and less on a free enterprise system. The EU system is an attempt to join Socialism with Capitalism. It is failing in many European countries. Britain obviously decided to pull out so it doesn't get dragged down with the EU countries whose economies are failing.

Only in the U.S. do we still have somewhat of a Capitalist market economy, a free enterprise system. But leftist presidents like Clinton and Obama tried to change that more towards a Socialist system with limiting free enterprise in the U.S. Today in the U.S. we don't really have a true Capitalist free enterprise system anymore, not since politicians no longer want to follow the U.S. Constitution which supports the idea of a free market and private ownership.

So the BEAST system in Revelation is not Capitalism, not at all. The beast system is a MONARCHY system with a king. That means one in authority whose power is absolute.

It seems to me that many people don’t see how the Bible prophesies tie together to make a whole coherent picture.
There is no doubt that Daniel and Revelation have many parallel prophesies, that can also be seen; giving more details, in the other Bible books.

Regarding a One World Government: This concept has been around for a long time and many overt and covert movements have promoted it. That such a political entity will happen, led by a charismatic man known to us as the Anti-Christ, is quite clearly prophesied in Daniel 7:23-24 and described in Daniel 11:21-45, paralleled in Revelation 17:12-13 and described in Revelation 13:1-18.

The problem the promoters of the OWG have, is the refusal of the nations to relinquish their sovereignty. We all prefer to do our own thing and with the current world situation, this works OK. There are hiccups with nations that mismanage their economies, but it is against the interests of the IMF and the ‘gnomes of Zurich’ to allow a nation to go bankrupt.

So, in order to force the nations to agree to a OWG; initially 10 regions, governed by 10 Presidents*, they know there has to be some kind of dramatic event to start this process. That planned event is to be a nuke attack in the Middle East. A mini WW3, that will shake up the world and have the beneficial effect of solving the Palestinian/ Israel conflict - they would both be gone!

Iran will proceed with their avowed plans to wipe Israel off the map and the recent developments in Syria, Gaza and Israel, is an indication of how close we are to this attack. They know such an attack will result in their own destruction, but they will do it, as their Satanic religion pushes them into it. Ezekiel 35:6, Proverbs 8:32

However, it won’t be retaliation by Israel or America that will thwart this secret attack by Iran and her allies onto Israel, the Lord will take action and He will destroy them all, Psalms 11:4-6, Psalms 83, 2 Peter 3:7, virtually depopulating the entire Middle East region. Ezekiel 7:14, Ezekiel 30:2-5, Jeremiah 10:18, Jeremiah 49:35, Isaiah 34:5, Zephaniah 1:14-18 & 2:4-5 and many other prophesies about the terrible Day of the Lord’s fiery wrath.

The rest of the world will mostly survive and as things will be then, agreement on a OWG will be easy. Not quite as planned, but a similar result!

What happens to all the true believers in the Lord? Raptured to heaven? Nowhere does the Bible say that will happen at any time. 1 Peter 3:12 says it clearly; it will be the fiery test of our faith and we must stand firm, believing in His protection.

Then: look up, for our redemption is near. Luke 21:25-28 Jesus will Return soon.

*Google - 10 world regions.