The Watchers, Giants and Hollow Earth

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Or could it be that that is what the prince of the power of the air wants us to believe because it seems like maybe, just maybe...... the Book of Enoch may predict the Division of the kingdom of Satan.... which leads to its fall?

The Book of Enoch, Chapters 1-60



Leviticus 16

"but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel."(Leviticus 16:10 RSV)

Yom Kippur/The Rapture connection?!
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Just what is the relevance of all of this to Christianity?

John's are Islamic spirits so have no relevance for Christians.
Patergonin giants have no relevancy to Christianity.

Book of Enoch is as relevant asharry potter to Christianity.

Why do you waste your time on rubbish.
Oh but it does... This is all part of Genesis 6. "There were giants in the land in those days".
Combine that with "But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.".

If you don't think that Nephilime, who were in the promised land before Joshua and the Hebrews took it over.. are not coming back.. you really need to do some research.
 
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Is that why it was found, intact, in the dead sea scrolls?
Only two Christian denominations and one Jewish group accepts the book of Enoch as inspired by God. Most scholars believe that it was written sometime in the 300 years before Christ was born.

It's rather difficult to attribute the book to Enoch when he lived prior to the flood. No doubt you will argue that Jude quotes the book of Enoch. Paul quoted two Greeks (Acts 17:28). That does not make their statements biblical. It is also possible that there was a real book of Enoch that not longer exists.
 
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Only two Christian denominations and one Jewish group accepts the book of Enoch as inspired by God. Most scholars believe that it was written sometime in the 300 years before Christ was born.

It's rather difficult to attribute the book to Enoch when he lived prior to the flood. No doubt you will argue that Jude quotes the book of Enoch. Paul quoted two Greeks (Acts 17:28). That does not make their statements biblical. It is also possible that there was a real book of Enoch that not longer exists.
I'm not going to argue with you as to whether it is inspired by God or not.. People believe the Encyclopedia Britanica, the writings of Socrates, the writings of Plato and many other books of historic data and events...

If you want to disregard the Book of Enoch because it is not inspired... then you have to toss out an whole library of texts.

The Book of Enoch runs parallel to the Biblical scriptures and does not contradict it. It gives a unique look into the events of that time.

As Rob Skiba puts it the Book of Enoch is Synchronized as it follows the biblical text and parallels it in many cases.. It is Biblically endorsed because it is quoted in the bible in a couple of places. The Book of Jubilee, The Book of Jasher and the writings of Josephus are also very valuable when researching the events mentioned in the bible.

You may want to take a good look and think about it before you write it off.. The Ethiopians held it as their bible.

I believe it was written by Enoch.. the one God loved so much that He "took" him. I believe that Enoch gave it to Methuselah and he gave it to Noah to bring on the ark..

You believe what you want... The Book of Enoch... explains a lot.
 
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I'm not going to argue with you as to whether it is inspired by God or not.. People believe the Encyclopedia Britanica, the writings of Socrates, the writings of Plato and many other books of historic data and events...

If you want to disregard the Book of Enoch because it is not inspired... then you have to toss out an whole library of texts.

The Book of Enoch runs parallel to the Biblical scriptures and does not contradict it. It gives a unique look into the events of that time.

As Rob Skiba puts it the Book of Enoch is Synchronized as it follows the biblical text and parallels it in many cases.. It is Biblically endorsed because it is quoted in the bible in a couple of places. The Book of Jubilee, The Book of Jasher and the writings of Josephus are also very valuable when researching the events mentioned in the bible.

You may want to take a good look and think about it before you write it off.. The Ethiopians held it as their bible.

I believe it was written by Enoch.. the one God loved so much that He "took" him. I believe that Enoch gave it to Methuselah and he gave it to Noah to bring on the ark..

You believe what you want... The Book of Enoch... explains a lot.
I've managed to survive ok without it. I'd never heard of it until about a year ago. I had a look and there was nothing in it that I found of value in my Christian life.
 
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I've managed to survive ok without it. I'd never heard of it until about a year ago. I had a look and there was nothing in it that I found of value in my Christian life.
You just found out about it a year ago and you have already written it off?

Well, that's your choice. I find it fascinating and informative.. A treasure.
 
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Oh but it does... This is all part of Genesis 6. "There were giants in the land in those days".
Combine that with "But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.".

If you don't think that Nephilime, who were in the promised land before Joshua and the Hebrews took it over.. are not coming back.. you really need to do some research.

Again this is irrelevant for Christianity.
Our task is to live now for Jesus. If nephilime appear then we will have to deal with them, but you are deliberately looking for trouble something we are told not to do.
 
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Again this is irrelevant for Christianity.
Our task is to live now for Jesus. If nephilime appear then we will have to deal with them, but you are deliberately looking for trouble something we are told not to do.
Some are happy to have their salvation wrapped up in a nice little box and a bow around it... They don't like it when you go asking about things beyond that... Don't go arguing with scientists who say that the earth is 4.5 billion years old.. Don't go arguing with those that say the flood was just a local flood.... Don't go arguing with those that say that we came from apes.... don't start causing trouble with those that believe any of the stories in the OT that go beyond natural explanation....

That's just fine... they can have that... they are saved... good for them.

However, in order to take that step beyond.. To explain the events of UFO's and the massive megalithic structures that exist on this earth.. built with technology that is unexplained and things built that we cannot event do today....

To explain why artifacts and evidence is showing up that totally contradicts the history that we were taught and our children are being taught in school .....

Sorry, but that is not truth.. That is a fairy tail and it has far reaching implications when it comes to what is real and solid truth of our creator and His will for us as His people.

If you are going to claim "this is irrelevant for Christianity." Then why bother contributing to this thread? You're happy...

BUT.....others have questions.... Don't try to draw them in to a simple belief just because you don't want to peel back the layer upon layer of deeper truths of the bible and other texts that record the actual events of this world... beyond the gospel and the simple salvation of our souls...


Every new discovery of the world beyond the events of Calvary.... exposes new and illuminating information of God's true plan and actions throughout the history of man kind.

It exposes the lies of the enemy... It gives support for other events that contribute to the coming events of this world.

To me... that's taking a step away from being fed on milk... and taking a good bite of meat of the scriptures.
 
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Don't go arguing with scientists who say that the earth is 4.5 billion years old.. Don't go arguing with those that say the flood was just a local flood.... Don't go arguing with those that say that we came from apes.... don't start causing trouble with those that believe any of the stories in the OT that go beyond natural explanation

There is a difference between contending for the accuracy of scripture and reporting or believing in extra scriptural events.
Neiphlim returning, expecting UFOs to appear, or demons to materialize.

That is all irrelevant.
If any of these things happened in your town what are you going to do?

Have you the ability to oppose a demonic manifestation?

In the unlikely event of something like that happening the response will be ensure the safety of one's family and friends, as far as is possible and to pray.
 
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There is a difference between contending for the accuracy of scripture and reporting or believing in extra scriptural events.
Neiphlim returning, expecting UFOs to appear, or demons to materialize.

Believing in UFO's? Seriously? UFO's are by definition "unidentified flying objects". These are a fact. What people believe they are is a whole different story.

Demons materializing.. They don't do that... They are, by nature, not physical.

Nephilim returning.. This is highly likely.

That is all irrelevant.
If any of these things happened in your town what are you going to do?

It isn't "what I'm going to do" I probably won't be here as the rapture will have come. If I am here, I'll be either hiding from the law for not taking the mark, or have lost my head for refusing to take it.

Have you the ability to oppose a demonic manifestation?

As Christians, we are to put on the armor of God. God said that He would not let anything snatch s from His grasp.

In the unlikely event of something like that happening the response will be ensure the safety of one's family and friends, as far as is possible and to pray.

I thought you said it was irrelevant? Strange and unusual events have taken place in this world in the past. Ignoring them... is not wise... There will be more supernatural unusual events to come. Educating yourself is never a bad option. Speaking out and saying that it doesn't matter... is not helpful.

Many people are studying these things.. If it doesn't interest you or you don't think it's important.. then don't worry... leave us to it and stop bothering with your input on stuff that doesn't matter to you.

I don't go commenting on the latest golf swings or putting concepts... or the latest basket ball play theories..... I don't care and I don't care what they believe.

So, if you don't think any of this is real... why are you wasting your time and mine.
 
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Believing in UFO's? Seriously? UFO's are by definition "unidentified flying objects". These are a fact. What people believe they are is a whole different story.

Demons materializing.. They don't do that... They are, by nature, not physical.

Nephilim returning.. This is highly likely.

Yet this is hat he thread is about.
Why reply because all to often people with an interest in these things get to involved and wander away, taken in by what they have become obsessed by.
 
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I don't know of too many Christians wandering from their faith in God and their solid hope of salvation through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.. by studying Nephilim, giants, and reading the book of Enoch....

It has done nothing but solidify my belief in our God and creator and the things to come.

Maranatha.
 
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There's another flavor on deep caverns below the Earth, this time, in regards to DUMBs (Deep Underground Military Bases).

So video of soldiers coming out from a tunnel or bunker means there is an underground war going on ?

That means soldiers getting out of transport planes have been fighting sky war and marines disembarking from a ship have been fighting ocean war ?

It seems Deep Underground Military Bases are not the only ones deserving this acronym.
 
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Your post

Something is going on with your reply's and quote syntax....

Anyway.

Yes, the bible is the word of God and the foundation that all things should stand on.

Having said that.. Studying other ancient texts, such as the "Book of Enoch", is not going to derail your walk with Christ, your faith in God or your Christianity...

In fact, I would take the Book of Enoch over Darwin's book on the Origin's of Species. Darwin's book has done more to counter the truth of this world and the work of God than any other book..

I don't believe it is your place to tell others, who have the desire to search for things... to stay away from such books as The Book of Enoch, as they are a wealth of knowledge and information and do not contradict anything to do with the concept of the Word of God.
 
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The Book of Enoch, as they are a wealth of knowledge and information and do not contradict anything to do with the concept of the Word of God.
I suppose the keyword in your statement is "concept", because clearly the book of Enoch DOES contradict the actual word of God. Yet, according to you, it doesn't contradict the "concept" of the Word of God.

Can you clarify what you mean by "concept" of the Word of God as that isn't very clear.
 
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I suppose the keyword in your statement is "concept", because clearly the book of Enoch DOES contradict the actual word of God. Yet, according to you, it doesn't contradict the "concept" of the Word of God.

Can you clarify what you mean by "concept" of the Word of God as that isn't very clear.
Can you show me where you feel that it contradicts the bible.

Also, I was searching for a word to get across what I wanted to say. .So.. if you must pick at a single word... maybe I shouldn't have used "concept".. Maybe I should have uses " truths" of the Word of God.
 
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Can you show me where you feel that it contradicts the bible.
That's easy enough... The Book of Enoch Debunked

Also, the very fact that the Book of Enoch is not in Scripture should be enough for you to recognize that it contains errors and is NOT inspired by the Holy Spirit.
 
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That's easy enough... The Book of Enoch Debunked

Also, the very fact that the Book of Enoch is not in Scripture should be enough for you to recognize that it contains errors and is NOT inspired by the Holy Spirit.

The scriptures do say that Enoch gave a prophecy concerning the return of the Lord, but that prophecy is only found within the book of Enoch, chapter 2.
 
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