Unemployment: "This Thing is Coming for us All"

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amount of deaths is stupid thing to compare, it's the rate of deaths, also the capacity of the heath care system to support those deaths. 200 american die a day from flu, 1k+ die from coronavirus a day, and thats with social distancing and other measures to slow the death, it could easily be tripple that.

And the rate of deaths still hasn't been established as being higher in coronavirus since that calculation is based on an estimate of overall cases, not 'confirmed' cases.
 
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We still haven't caught up to flu deaths. We're still half of that in the US and about 1/12th worldwide.

We're up nearly another 1000 since I posted this morning. 11,800 and counting. We'll be at 20K by the end of the week. We'll easily eclipse flu numbers by the end of April.

Assuming flu season is 6 months a year, we average 200 deaths a day in flu season. We're currently losing people at 5-7x that rate (official count of 1165 deaths yesterday), and the rate is still increasing.

Worldometer adds this note:

An estimated additional 180 - 195 deaths per day occurring at home in New York City due to COVID-19 are not being counted in the official figures. "Early on in this crisis we were able to swab people who died at home, and thus got a coronavirus reading. But those days are long gone. We simply don't have the testing capacity for the large numbers dying at home. Now only those few who had a test confirmation *before* dying are marked as victims of coronavirus on their death certificate. This almost certainly means we are undercounting the total number of victims of this pandemic," said Mark Levine, Chair of New York City Council health committee.

Where did I over represent flue deaths anyway? I posted the CDC and WHO numbers. Are they over representing them?

You said "120,000 deaths from flu and automobile accidents". Each average around 40,000 per year. That's 80,000 per year, not 120,000. You exaggerated the numbers by 50%. I've already shown you where you did that, yet you continue to act surprised. Heck, I quoted your false stat in my post that you just responded to.
 
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South Korea managed their crisis without quarantining the entire country and ruining its economy. The "precautions" we're taking are absolutely not necessary. They are causing more harm than good.

they also did it by doing massive testng which the US wasn't capable of doing, but don't let facts get in the way of reality.
 
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Not reading a link and then criticizing it, priceless.
I've been around a long time and am well aware what a slime nutjob is Lew Rockwell. Surely, you can find a source worth looking at.
 
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Assuming flu season is 6 months a year, we average 200 deaths a day in flu season. We're currently losing people at 5-7x that rate (official count of 1165 deaths yesterday), and the rate is still increasing.

You are comparing a single day's deaths to the average rate over 6 months. Grossly inappropriate.
 
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You are comparing a single day's deaths to the average rate over 6 months. Grossly inappropriate.

1000+ have been dying every day for the last 5 days, and every indication is that the rate is continuing to increase.

Inappropriate is you comparing 5K deaths from 4 weeks of Covid (now 12K 5 days later) to 120K flu and automobile ANNUAL numbers (when the the actual ANNUAL numbers are 80K, not 120K).

You continue to distort facts and present an argument that doesn't align with factual reality.
 
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So 5k deaths from covid will strain our "infrastucture" but 120k deaths from flu and traffic fatalities doesn't?

It is estimated that over 300k deaths per year can be attributed to medical malpractice. Where's the hysteria over that?
For one thing, you can't sue a virus, or court order it to cease and desist.
 
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After 11 weeks on lock down, the Chinese authorities have lifted travel restrictions in Wuhan. There is a catch though:

People can now leave after presenting to the authorities a government-sanctioned phone app that indicates — based on their home addresses, recent travels and medical histories — whether they are contagion risks.

And social distancing measures remain in the city:
Within the city, however, tough rules on individuals and businesses are still in place to prevent the virus from regaining a foothold. Officials continue to urge everyone to stay at home as much as possible. Schools are still closed.

China Ends Wuhan Lockdown, but Normal Life Is a Distant Dream

 
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There is no evidence that anything they've done has made the situation any better. At all.

You prove my point. No matter what they would have done people would be saying what you are saying.
 
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