Trump trying to blame the World Health Organisation as his new scapegoat!

IceJad said:

Also this

CHAPTER II – FUNCTIONS Article 2 In order to achieve its objective, the functions of the Organization shall be: (a) to act as the directing and co-ordinating authority on international health work;

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Which they also attempted to do.

MIDutch said:

Which they also attempted to do.

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WHO is incompetent during the early stages of the outbreak. Taiwan warned WHO of possible human to human transmission in December 31st but WHO ignored it. Then on Jan 14th tweeted out no human to human transmission. Called for no travel restriction and all nations must act based on facts. Only on Jan 20th WHO admitted there is human to human transmission.

You will have to forgive me if I find WHO culpable for the human suffering around the world now.

Coronavirus: WHO on defensive after outcry over Taiwan snub

December warning
Taiwan has said its doctors had been in communication with mainland colleagues in December and had learned then that medical workers treating patients with a novel respiratory illness in Hubei were falling sick, a likely indicator of human-to-human transmission.

They wrote to the WHO on December 31st raising concern about human-to-human transmissions, and while they got a note to confirm their letter had been received they did not receive a response.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/who-h...a-found-no-human-transmission-of-coronavirus/

“Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China,” the organization had said.

eclipsenow said:

Exactly! I mean, what is Icejad trying to say - that it's the WHO's fault Trump didn't listen to them? I'm sorry, but which part of the following timeline confuses the President?

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You misinterpret what I said. I said Trump is not totally wrong. WHO shares part of the blame. Meaning Trump shares the other part of the blame for Americans now.

I find it hard to believe some people will go through to protect WHO like they are infallible.

I would like to draw attention to the fact that Trump said he was going to cut funding to the WHO, only to moment’s later say he didn’t say the thing he just said.

eclipsenow said:

If I were American I would wince with embarrassment every time my "President" opened his mouth.


But this year his behaviour has moved beyond embarrassing: this seems to border on impeachable dereliction of duty!

Donald Trump hunted for a new scapegoat on Tuesday in an increasingly frantic attempt to shift blame for thousands of American deaths from the coronavirus, accusing the World Health Organization (WHO) of having “called it wrong” and being “China-centric”.

The US president contradicted himself within minutes, first vowing to put “a very powerful hold” on his government’s funding of the WHO, then insisting such a freeze was only under consideration.

Trump’s early inaction has come under renewed scrutiny in the past day after a New York Times report that Peter Navarro, Trump’s trade adviser, warned in a memo in late January that the virus could put millions of Americans at risk and cost trillions of dollars. Susan Rice, a former national security adviser, told the Washington Post that Trump’s missteps “cost tens of thousands of American lives”.

The president has repeatedly denied responsibility and sought to blame China, the Obama administration and the media. On Tuesday, with the US death toll exceeding 12,000, he unleashed a tirade at the WHO, even though it raised the alarm in January, after which he made statements downplaying it and comparing it to the common flu.​

Trump threatens to hold WHO funding, then backtracks, amid search for scapegoat | Donald Trump | The Guardian

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Thanks but, we will keep him right here and enjoy yet another 4 years.

Biden is still looking for his car keys.

M-Bob

iluvatar5150 said:

We already have a thread about that, including a bunch of us picking it apart. In one of the more amusing parts of that test, the US got a bunch of points for having systems in place that would enable federal authorities to effectively communicate with the population. What it didn’t account for was Trump using those very systems to ramble on like an idiot with inconsistent messaging based more on his hunches than on facts.

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Let's be fair - you can't expect a second rate reality TV personality to ignore an opportunity like that. It must be the planners fault for not taking that fact into account.

IceJad said:

Then on Jan 14th tweeted out no human to human transmission.

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No, as your own post states, they tweeted out that China said there was no clear evidence of human to human transmission.

“Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China,” the organization had said.

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IceJad said:

You misinterpret what I said. I said Trump is not totally wrong. WHO shares part of the blame. Meaning Trump shares the other part of the blame for Americans now.

I find it hard to believe some people will go through to protect WHO like they are infallible.

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It is not infallible, but it is not the WHO's fault that Trump did not listen to them. The WHO did it's job, it is up to individual countries to act.

And giving the WHO less money doesn't make sense. They should give it more money and resources to improve it's abilities to be effective in cases like this.

IceJad said:

Oh yeah, I nearly forgot this "advise" from WHO.

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And that says it ALL. The W.H.O. criticized Trump for issuing travel bans so any defence of them is ridiculous and should be filed under G without hesitation.

Funny how the same people who rage against the very idea of international bodies telling the USA what to do, are the quickest to try and blame them for America's problems.

Paulos23 said:

It is not infallible, but it is not the WHO's fault that Trump did not listen to them. The WHO did it's job, it is up to individual countries to act.

And giving the WHO less money doesn't make sense. They should give it more money and resources to improve it's abilities to be effective in cases like this.

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Nope. Every nation should have their own medical expert agents world wide giving info back to their homelands as the what's going on. By far I'd trust somebody from my own country to be giving assessments at least that way we could hold them accountable, and release them from their positions if need be, if they make gross mistakes, and replace them with somebody else .

Paulos23 said:

It is not infallible, but it is not the WHO's fault that Trump did not listen to them. The WHO did it's job, it is up to individual countries to act.

And giving the WHO less money doesn't make sense. They should give it more money and resources to improve it's abilities to be effective in cases like this.

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That’s a question I keep having - what would giving them less money do? What would it solve?

eclipsenow said:

"with the US death toll exceeding 12,000, he unleashed a tirade at the WHO, even though it raised the alarm in January, after which he made statements downplaying it and comparing it to the common flu."

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Yes, I remember that well. And many of his followers still claim it.

A friend of mine says it is media driven. "They love to scare people so they get more viewers."

There is little doubt that the WHO made the spread of the virus worse rather than better. Or that it has been 'carrying water' for the regime in Beijing.

Whether this is because it has been totally co-opted by the People's Republic or there's some other reason, that's probably less important than that there has been a failure on WHO's part. And they are the people who are supposed to be on top of these things.

lasthero said:

That’s a question I keep having - what would giving them less money do? What would it solve?

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Well, that's a lot of money, especially if it isn't well-spent.

You ask what giving them less money do? It would allow us to spend that same money on fighting the Coronavirus, of course!

Albion said:

Well, that's a lot of money, especially if it isn't well-spent.

You ask what giving them less money do? It would allow us to spend that same money on fighting the Coronavirus, of course!

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But that’s not why Trump is talking about cutting money to them. He’s saying they messed up, and wants to withhold money because of that. It’s reasonable to assume he thinks doing so would somehow prevent the WHO from messing up again.

How? How is them having less money going to make them more effective?

lasthero said:

But that’s not why Trump is talking about cutting money to them. He’s saying they messed up, and wants to withhold money because of that.

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Why reward inefficiency?

Albion said:

Why reward inefficiency?

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Okay, but you’re not answering my question.

You say the WHO is inefficient. I disagree, but for the sake of argument, I’ll grant that.

How does giving them less money make them more efficient?