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Haggai 2:2-3 ESV

“Speak now… and say, ‘Who is left among you who saw this house in its former glory? How do you see it now? Is it not as nothing in your eyes?’”

Let’s ask these questions today of those of us who live in America, who are followers of Jesus Christ. And, those who live in other parts of the world, you can do the same. But, America is where I live, and it is what I know.

Who among you saw God’s house, his body, in its former glory?

I am 70 years old, born the last day of 1949, so I can remember the church in America, at least a large part of it, really on fire for Jesus Christ, where the true gospel was taught, where holy living was stressed, where true evangelism was practiced, and where sensitivity to the voice of the Holy Spirit and obedience to Christ were a normal part of our everyday lives.

I can remember that we had Sunday School Classes and church services Sunday mornings, and worship services on Sunday nights, which were true worship services, where the scriptures were taught. And, we had Wednesday night Bible study and prayer meetings, and home Bible studies in various people’s homes throughout the week where we actually studied the Bible, straight from the Bible, and not from books written by mere mortals.

And, this is where we had true fellowship in the Spirit, and we cared for one another, and prayed for one another, and we encouraged one another in our walks of faith throughout the week, too, on our own.

I can remember communion services where people broke out into spontaneous singing of praise to God via the hymns, and where people wept in humility and repentance during the communion service, which was a very solemn time of prayer, of confession, and of making sure our hearts were pure before God.

I can remember church gatherings where we shared testimonies, not of our salvation “experiences,” but of our walks of faith, and of what the Lord was teaching us and how it was changing our lives. The body of Christ ministered to one another spiritually with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs, and with scripture, and with testimony, and with prayer and encouragement.

And, I can remember times of true revival, too, where people were truly broken before God in true contriteness of heart and mind, and where they repented of sin, got their hearts right with God, and where it truly changed their lives from that moment forward, no looking back.

How do you see God’s house, his body, now? Is it the same?

It is totally different now. I am sure there are small congregations here and there that are still like what I grew up under. But, I am convinced, from what I have seen and heard and experienced, and from what I have read and/or viewed, that those are in the minority.

I believe the majority of America’s church, or what is called “church,” looks nothing like the early church, or even like the one I grew up under. For one, the church is the body of Christ with Christ as the head, and with the Holy Spirit as our counselor and guide. I grew up under that kind of church.

But, once the true church decided to incorporate under the US government, then it shifted to a different focus. Now it was being run like a business, and it was being marketed to the world just like any other business. And, now it was becoming worldly, for it was trying to attract the world to its gatherings.

Over time, the Holy Spirit got pushed out of most of these gatherings in favor of entertainment, the ‘big show,’ appealing to the “felt needs” of the people of the world, and for worldliness and godlessness, etc. The “church” was now just another entertainment and social venue which was just a clean-cut (mostly, though not all) version of what the world was offering.

Pastors now had to be entertainers, comedians, and clowns in order to attract large crowds of people from the world. And, the Bible had to be replaced with movies or with books written by mere mortals, some of which incorporate other gods and other religions in their teachings. And, worship services had to become huge stage productions for entertainment purposes.

And, since the “target” audience for the “church” was now the world, using worldly means and methods to attract the world, they also diluted the true gospel of our salvation to make it more palatable and acceptable to human flesh. For, they don’t want to offend anyone with the truth. They just want everyone to be “nice” and to make everyone feel good about themselves.

Again, not every congregation calling itself “the church” fits this pattern, but it does appear, at least here in America, that what I have described fits the majority. And, so God has been warning this idolatrous and adulterous church of pending judgment if she did not repent and obey him.

Haggai 2:4-5 ESV

“Yet now be strong... Be strong, all you people of the land, declares the Lord. Work, for I am with you, declares the Lord of hosts, according to the covenant that I made with you when you came out of Egypt. My Spirit remains in your midst. Fear not.”

So, the Lord is encouraging his faithful ones here to not lose heart over the apparent demise of the church, overall. We are not to give up hope. But, I am not talking here about institutional Christianity. The church is not a building called “church.” It isn’t Baptist or Methodist or Presbyterian, either, or any other denomination or non-denominational organization of men.

So, even though most “churches” (or what is called “church”) right now are not able to gather in person, that is not the true demise of the church.

So, I am not suggesting that we hold out hope that the institutional church will be able to gather again one day, as though that is a victory of God. It isn’t! Not if they are operating in the flesh of man, and they are ignoring the commands of God, and not if they have turned God’s house into a marketplace and they are living in idolatry and spiritual adultery against God.

I believe God wants the doors to those “churches” permanently shut! For, he has shut those doors in order to lead his people back to him, and to the cross of Christ. He has shut those doors to bring his people out from among the ungodly so that he can nurture them in his ways, like in the days of old.

So, what the Lord is calling us to do during this time is to do the work of the Lord in rebuilding his church – his body – to what it should be, which is to be for the glory and praise of God, and which is to be a holy temple. And, we are to offer up to God spiritual sacrifices pleasing to him, which is giving him full reign in our lives to lead us to do his will for our lives (Rom. 12:1-2).

So, we need to be revived. We need to be strengthened in our walks of faith so that we can do the work God has called us to do, and so we can help in the rebuilding (spiritually) of God’s church, Christ’s body. And, we need to be sharing the true gospel of our salvation with all who will listen, too.

Haggai 2:6-7 ESV

“For thus says the Lord of hosts: Yet once more, in a little while, I will shake the heavens and the earth and the sea and the dry land. And I will shake all nations, so that the treasures of all nations shall come in, and I will fill this house with glory, says the Lord of hosts.”

I believe with all my heart that God presently is judging his church here in America, and perhaps in other nations, too. And, he is also shaking nations, too. And, the purpose for all this is that his house, his body, would be for his glory, and that it would no longer be a house of prostitution where his people are “making nice” with the world and with worldliness, and with big business, and with the government, too.

For, I believe that through this judgment God intends to revive his adulterous and his idolatrous people who have turned his church into a marketplace, and who have become unequally yoked together with the ungodly. And, he wants to bring them back to him as their only God, and he wants to return them to being “the church,” the body of Christ, with Christ as the head, and not be what is falsely called “church” these days.

But, not every “shaking” is with physical weapons of warfare such as with guns and bombs, etc. God allows us to go through spiritual warfare, too, to test our faith, and to bring us back to him in full surrender. And, although Satan is our primary enemy who is coming against us, Satan has many people serving him, as well, who are coming against us, too, in many different ways. We need to be alert to those ways, too.

So, I am going to share a couple of articles with you and one video (1-3) for your discretion, and for your spiritual discernment. These are not from Christians necessarily or from a Christian perspective, but they are from people who are thinkers, one of which I know is an investigative journalist, who are examining what is being presented to them, and they are questioning whether or not it is truth or a lie.

I believe their findings have much credence logically, and that they have the potential of fitting with Bible prophecy, too. So, I am just going to ask that you prayerfully consider what these people are presenting, meaning that you inquire of the Lord if it may be true. For, I believe many people are being deceived and that they have the potential to fall into a trap of the enemy if they are not wise, and if they are not seeking the counsel of God.

Jesus Draw Me Ever Nearer

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Music by Keith Getty


“Jesus draw me ever nearer
As I labour through the storm.
You have called me to this passage,
and I’ll follow, though I’m worn…

May this journey bring a blessing,
May I rise on wings of faith;
And at the end of my heart’s testing,
With Your likeness let me wake.

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(1) Planetary Hysteria: Manufactured COVID-19 “Health Crisis” Pushes Humanity, Global Society to Total Shutdown - Global Research

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I can remember communion services where people broke out into spontaneous singing of praise to God via the hymns, and where people wept in humility and repentance during the communion service, which was a very solemn time of prayer, of confession, and of making sure our hearts were pure before God.
It seems that the Holy Spirit is calling the elders of our generation to share with this generation what He has done for us.
2 Peter 3:1. This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance.

I Remember My Song

I remember my song in the night; I commune with my own heart and my spirit made diligent search. Psalms 77:6.

When Asaph speaks of his song, he is not talking about his favorite tune. The word negenah refers to music played to enter into the prophetic spirit. Asaph was chosen by David to minister in this capacity.

Moreover David and the captains of the host separated to the service of the sons of Asaph and Heman and of Jeduthun who should prophesy with harps, with psalteries and with cymbals. 1 Ch 25:1.

Negenah, a prophetic song, comes from the word nagan, which refers to playing an instrument in tune with the spirit.

And it came to pass when the spirit from God was upon Saul that David took a harp and played (nagan) with his hand so that Saul was refreshed and was well and the evil spirit departed from him.
1 Sam 16:23.
Taken from the essay "I Remember My Song".
 
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Interesting thoughts. But there is a hitch in his idea, there are thousands of people dead in 1/4 the cycle time of the flu. That is that we know of anyway. Even doctors and nurses. One thing is for sure though, this is a different time we are in, not sure where it will lead to.
 
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Interesting thoughts. But there is a hitch in his idea, there are thousands of people dead in 1/4 the cycle time of the flu. That is that we know of anyway. Even doctors and nurses. One thing is for sure though, this is a different time we are in, not sure where it will lead to.

Dave, I appreciate your thoughts. But, numbers can be exaggerated, and the dead have high numbers of elderly people who were probably already close to death, and people with other existing conditions that could have been the cause of their deaths.

Also, from what I have read, and I have no way of verifying this exactly, since there is so misinformation out there, but viruses exist within a lot of us, some in large amounts, and some in small amounts, and some of those fall under a general classification of "coronavirus," whether it be the common cold, or the flu or pneumonia, etc. So, if this is true, that would mean that, if tested, a whole lot of us could have a positive test for coronavirus, but that does not mean, if we die, that we died of coronavirus or COVID-19.

So, just saying that things can be exaggerated, amplified, blown out of proportion, lied about, twisted, etc. for a desired affect. And, if we believe the Bible, and if we believe that we have an enemy Satan who is out to destroy us, and if we believe all the prophecies about the last days, and if we believe that deception and mind manipulation exists, then we have to acknowledge that these things are not only possible, i.e. a massive deception, but that they are probable, and that this is one of the ways in which the enemy conquers people, through deception.

So, that is why I asked that you pray about these matters, and that you seek the Lord in this, and that you pray for discernment, for if we always believe the media and our government without question, then we are setting ourselves up for a fall. For, the Bible talks about a time of mass deception. So, we need to be discerning people and we need to test what we hear. And, that is all I can ask of you.

Thank you for reading and for responding. I appreciate it! Sue
 
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It seems that the Holy Spirit is calling the elders of our generation to share with this generation what He has done for us.
2 Peter 3:1. This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance.

I Remember My Song

I remember my song in the night; I commune with my own heart and my spirit made diligent search. Psalms 77:6.

When Asaph speaks of his song, he is not talking about his favorite tune. The word negenah refers to music played to enter into the prophetic spirit. Asaph was chosen by David to minister in this capacity.

Moreover David and the captains of the host separated to the service of the sons of Asaph and Heman and of Jeduthun who should prophesy with harps, with psalteries and with cymbals. 1 Ch 25:1.

Negenah, a prophetic song, comes from the word nagan, which refers to playing an instrument in tune with the spirit.

And it came to pass when the spirit from God was upon Saul that David took a harp and played (nagan) with his hand so that Saul was refreshed and was well and the evil spirit departed from him.
1 Sam 16:23.
Taken from the essay "I Remember My Song".

MM, I am sorry, but I am not following your train of thought here. So, help! Could you summarize for me what you are trying to say here?
 
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MM, I am sorry, but I am not following your train of thought here. So, help! Could you summarize for me what you are trying to say here?
Of course. The nature of most of what you wrote is recalling what you remember of what the church was like in the past, compared to now. Consider what Peter said
2 Peter 1:13. Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance.
The context is that Peter is at the end of his course, but he still wants to stir up others by reminding them of many things, even as your writing did today. We all as humans share a common trait, we forget things! By you remembering the power of the Gospel that you have experienced as a mature Christian, you are perpetuating a memory that serves others. As Paul wrote:
2 Tim 2:2. And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.
By sharing your testimony, you are not only making your calling and election sure, you are building up those coming up. Your devotional today was a fine act of discipleship.
I noticed most comments that came through from others were in regard to the video. I was commenting on your words. Your Logos.
Rev. 12:11. They overcame by the blood of the Lamb and the word (logos) of their testimony...
As to the beginning of that essay "I remember my Song", they were in reference to what I cut and replied to from your testimony, the communion services, the spontaneous worship, the move of the Holy Spirit.
The essay goes on to speak in more detail how the Holy Spirit is able to minister by the prophetic Spirit, for "the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy". Rev. 19:10.
In Psalm 77, Asaph is wrestling with difficult issues, as he communes within his spirit in remembrance.
Verse 11: I will remember the works of the LORD: surely I will remember thy wonders of old.
Also, I posted the entire essay under 'Blogs".
I feel that what you are talking about in your devotion is a church that has come to this:
"Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof" 2 Tim 3:5.
I will pray more about this tonight, and I apologize if I was lacking focus in my comments. I keep trying to do better in this online fellowship. I just feel that your devotions are coming from a good place, in the storehouse of your heart. Thanks for sharing, and asking for my clarification. Have I made things worse?
 
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Of course. The nature of most of what you wrote is recalling what you remember of what the church was like in the past, compared to now. Consider what Peter said
2 Peter 1:13. Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance.
The context is that Peter is at the end of his course, but he still wants to stir up others by reminding them of many things, even as your writing did today. We all as humans share a common trait, we forget things! By you remembering the power of the Gospel that you have experienced as a mature Christian, you are perpetuating a memory that serves others. As Paul wrote:
2 Tim 2:2. And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.
By sharing your testimony, you are not only making your calling and election sure, you are building up those coming up. Your devotional today was a fine act of discipleship.
I noticed most comments that came through from others were in regard to the video. I was commenting on your words. Your Logos.
Rev. 12:11. They overcame by the blood of the Lamb and the word (logos) of their testimony...
As to the beginning of that essay "I remember my Song", they were in reference to what I cut and replied to from your testimony, the communion services, the spontaneous worship, the move of the Holy Spirit.
The essay goes on to speak in more detail how the Holy Spirit is able to minister by the prophetic Spirit, for "the testimony of Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy". Rev. 19:10.
In Psalm 77, Asaph is wrestling with difficult issues, as he communes within his spirit in remembrance.
Verse 11: I will remember the works of the LORD: surely I will remember thy wonders of old.
Also, I posted the entire essay under 'Blogs".
I feel that what you are talking about in your devotion is a church that has come to this:
"Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof" 2 Tim 3:5.
I will pray more about this tonight, and I apologize if I was lacking focus in my comments. I keep trying to do better in this online fellowship. I just feel that your devotions are coming from a good place, in the storehouse of your heart. Thanks for sharing, and asking for my clarification. Have I made things worse?

MM - You are good! I understood this one, and thank you so much for your many encouraging words. All glory to God! I appreciate your encouragement.

Depending on how things are written, I sometimes do have difficulty understanding what is being said, so thank you for not being offended by me asking for clarification. I do want to understand, so if I don't, I will ask again. But, this one was more clear.
 
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MM - You are good! I understood this one, and thank you so much for your many encouraging words. All glory to God! I appreciate your encouragement.

Depending on how things are written, I sometimes do have difficulty understanding what is being said, so thank you for not being offended by me asking for clarification. I do want to understand, so if I don't, I will ask again. But, this one was more clear.
I am so glad to hear that report from you. Much of what I write seems to come across as unusual, because the Lord has impressed upon me to write extensively on the topic of Memorials and Remembrance. I had never heard much about this in all of my walk, nor could I find any writings on the topic, but it is very important! Especially when you consider the command "Do this in remembrance of me". Acts chapter 10 tells of the Roman Cornelius, who's prayers and giving came before God as a memorial unto him. It is a fascinating study. Psalm 77, is a fine example, as Asaph's meditations are profound.
Be encouraged, you have run the race, you have fought the good fight, and there is a crown of glory laid up for you. Your consistent devotions are a marvel to His faithfulness.
Your brother in Christ,
James
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I am so glad to hear that report from you. Much of what I write seems to come across as unusual, because the Lord has impressed upon me to write extensively on the topic of Memorials and Remembrance. I had never heard much about this in all of my walk, nor could I find any writings on the topic, but it is very important! Especially when you consider the command "Do this in remembrance of me". Acts chapter 10 tells of the Roman Cornelius, who's prayers and giving came before God as a memorial unto him. It is a fascinating study. Psalm 77, is a fine example, as Asaph's meditations are profound.
Be encouraged, you have run the race, you have fought the good fight, and there is a crown of glory laid up for you. Your consistent devotions are a marvel to His faithfulness.
Your brother in Christ,
James
also a senior, also a veteran.
James, thank you. All glory to God!
 
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I think that you are right about the church moving away from it's good days - but the spirit is still there, I feel it so much at the church I go to and what you describe is exactly the type of environment I experience.

I'm a young and new Christian but I believe that what was said about COVID-19 in the articles and the videos is not accurate. I don't believe that the politicians want to close down the world, it's economic suicide however, I do believe that we are in a time of globalization and this could be seen as good or bad. It's good because it's a time when the whole world has a chance to unite and this I believe is God's will, however maybe it is coming closer to the end times.

As Christians we shouldn't worry about this because we know the savior is coming. I would also say that today is the best time to live from all times before because life expectancy is high, we have a lot of comfort from the conveniences of a advanced civilization; this board on the internet, cellphones, good medicine. I think this is just another development in society, we don't want millions of people to die like in 1918 and these disastrous pandemics can be avoided by safety measures.

It's good to post concerns about it being a scare though. I feel as though the concerns of the government are sincere and they know millions of deaths is worse than economic collapse so they chose to close down.
 
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Dave, I appreciate your thoughts. But, numbers can be exaggerated, and the dead have high numbers of elderly people who were probably already close to death, and people with other existing conditions that could have been the cause of their deaths.

Also, from what I have read, and I have no way of verifying this exactly, since there is so misinformation out there, but viruses exist within a lot of us, some in large amounts, and some in small amounts, and some of those fall under a general classification of "coronavirus," whether it be the common cold, or the flu or pneumonia, etc. So, if this is true, that would mean that, if tested, a whole lot of us could have a positive test for coronavirus, but that does not mean, if we die, that we died of coronavirus or COVID-19.

So, just saying that things can be exaggerated, amplified, blown out of proportion, lied about, twisted, etc. for a desired affect. And, if we believe the Bible, and if we believe that we have an enemy Satan who is out to destroy us, and if we believe all the prophecies about the last days, and if we believe that deception and mind manipulation exists, then we have to acknowledge that these things are not only possible, i.e. a massive deception, but that they are probable, and that this is one of the ways in which the enemy conquers people, through deception.

So, that is why I asked that you pray about these matters, and that you seek the Lord in this, and that you pray for discernment, for if we always believe the media and our government without question, then we are setting ourselves up for a fall. For, the Bible talks about a time of mass deception. So, we need to be discerning people and we need to test what we hear. And, that is all I can ask of you.

Thank you for reading and for responding. I appreciate it! Sue
Sue, I'm still discerning everything that's going on myself. I certainly don't believe all that I see in media. This circumstance that we ( all the nations and the church, the people of the world) find ourselves in is certainly unique. I'm praying all throughout the day these days. We are in a time of great deception, a time where many are having strange dreams and visions ,myself included. I can't help but feel this pass over and Easter season has some special meaning behind it and that this whole event is bigger than just a virus. I've said it from the get go. My point above was we still can't neglect the deaths associated with this event. Many good points were made in the video and many I've considered already. We have a live in guest here living with us, a faithful woman of God and we have had several pow wows and in them I've said many times there is something more behind this virus and I've felt this coming for quite some time yet can't put my finger on it.. But I'm not fearing, I know the one on the throne and I belong to Him ! So time will just have to tell. It wouldn't surprise me much no matter what comes down at this point but we are his children who know Him. I think those who want everything just to revert back to how they were will never see that though. I also think in this time if we haven't learned anything else we need to be spiritually prepared, confessed up to date and to trust in God.
 
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Sue, I'm still discerning everything that's going on myself. I certainly don't believe all that I see in media. This circumstance that we ( all the nations and the church, the people of the world) find ourselves in is certainly unique. I'm praying all throughout the day these days. We are in a time of great deception, a time where many are having strange dreams and visions ,myself included. I can't help but feel this pass over and Easter season has some special meaning behind it and that this whole event is bigger than just a virus. I've said it from the get go. My point above was we still can't neglect the deaths associated with this event. Many good points were made in the video and many I've considered already. We have a live in guest here living with us, a faithful woman of God and we have had several pow wows and in them I've said many times there is something more behind this virus and I've felt this coming for quite some time yet can't put my finger on it.. But I'm not fearing, I know the one on the throne and I belong to Him ! So time will just have to tell. It wouldn't surprise me much no matter what comes down at this point but we are his children who know Him. I think those who want everything just to revert back to how they were will never see that though. I also think in this time if we haven't learned anything else we need to be spiritually prepared, confessed up to date and to trust in God.
Dave, I agree with you on all points, except I don't believe all the deaths being reported all stem from coronavirus, for many dead were people in nursing homes, the elderly, people my age and older, and people who had many other conditions, any one of which could have killed them. If we believe deception abounds, and that there is possibly a hidden agenda here at work, then we have to know that they can inflate numbers and that they can fake cause of death, too. But, yes, no fear, and trust God always. Amen!
 
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I think that you are right about the church moving away from it's good days - but the spirit is still there, I feel it so much at the church I go to and what you describe is exactly the type of environment I experience.

I'm a young and new Christian but I believe that what was said about COVID-19 in the articles and the videos is not accurate. I don't believe that the politicians want to close down the world, it's economic suicide however, I do believe that we are in a time of globalization and this could be seen as good or bad. It's good because it's a time when the whole world has a chance to unite and this I believe is God's will, however maybe it is coming closer to the end times.

As Christians we shouldn't worry about this because we know the savior is coming. I would also say that today is the best time to live from all times before because life expectancy is high, we have a lot of comfort from the conveniences of a advanced civilization; this board on the internet, cellphones, good medicine. I think this is just another development in society, we don't want millions of people to die like in 1918 and these disastrous pandemics can be avoided by safety measures.

It's good to post concerns about it being a scare though. I feel as though the concerns of the government are sincere and they know millions of deaths is worse than economic collapse so they chose to close down.

Karma, the Holy Spirit never leaves his true church, his body. If we are true followers of Jesus Christ, the HOly Spirit is living within us. But, we can quench the Spirit, i.e. we can put out the Spirit's fire, and we can grieve the Holy Spirit if we turn away from truth to follow after the flesh and the lies of men.

And, a lot of what is called "church" is not the church, although elements of the true church may exist within these organizations of men falsely called "church." And, by the true church uniting with the ungodly in an effort to win the world to their businesses, many of these congregations have pushed the Holy Spirit out of their gatherings, i.e. they have quenched him to where they are not listening to him at all.

Regarding current events, it is important that we realize that Satan is the deceiver and that much deception is taking place in our world today, so we should not just believe the media or our governments because they could be, and I believe are lying to us. So, just saying that we should not believe everything we hear. We need to be those who test what we hear in prayer, seeking God's face, and asking him to give us his discernment in these times to know what is truly going on.
 
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Regarding current events, it is important that we realize that Satan is the deceiver and that much deception is taking place in our world today, so we should not just believe the media or our governments because they could be, and I believe are lying to us. So, just saying that we should not believe everything we hear. We need to be those who test what we hear in prayer, seeking God's face, and asking him to give us his discernment in these times to know what is truly going on.

A person from my Church died this morning from coronavirus, we made a food delivery to her last tuesday when she was sick under home quarantine. There are a lot of cases even with testkits that maybe imperfect, this is a problem. Hopefully it will be over soon.
 
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A person from my Church died this morning from coronavirus, we made a food delivery to her last tuesday when she was sick under home quarantine. There are a lot of cases even with testkits that maybe imperfect, this is a problem. Hopefully it will be over soon.
I am sorry for your loss. It is a very sad situation, indeed. Much prayer is needed.
 
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Dave, I agree with you on all points, except I don't believe all the deaths being reported all stem from coronavirus, for many dead were people in nursing homes, the elderly, people my age and older, and people who had many other conditions, any one of which could have killed them. If we believe deception abounds, and that there is possibly a hidden agenda here at work, then we have to know that they can inflate numbers and that they can fake cause of death, too. But, yes, no fear, and trust God always. Amen!
More deaths rolled in and to blaming corona is a potential that certainly exists. As to government and specific people lying to us, that potential certainly exists as well but too I think they are reacting as things unfold. That is to say they don't necessarily fully know themselves. And so a lot of blame and accusation gets bantered around. But in all that, someone is deliberate too. It's as though there is a force behind this. Again I will say it, God is still on His throne, He gets the last say. As for us ( believers) we may have a battle yet but we know our war is already won !
 
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More deaths rolled in and to blaming corona is a potential that certainly exists. As to government and specific people lying to us, that potential certainly exists as well but too I think they are reacting as things unfold. That is to say they don't necessarily fully know themselves. And so a lot of blame and accusation gets bantered around. But in all that, someone is deliberate too. It's as though there is a force behind this. Again I will say it, God is still on His throne, He gets the last say. As for us ( believers) we may have a battle yet but we know our war is already won !
Yes, our war is already won! Amen! Thanks, Dave.
 
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