Defining Scripture, with the Apostle Paul

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The Apostle Paul wrote in 2nd Timothy 3:16 that "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

I have read this verse many times before and thought nothing much of it, it's a pretty self explanatory verse. Then I started thinking, when Paul wrote this, what was he referring to as scripture? He was writing a letter to Timothy, not knowing that generations later would consider his letters to be scripture. I do not think even Paul himself considered them to be scripture.

By this logic, the new testament isn't scripture. The new testament is Gospels, Epistles, and Prophecy. "Scripture" would purely mean the Old Testament.
This is not to say that the new testament isn't inspired or of God, it most certainly 100% is. Especially the gospels, which have the words of the Messiah!

So, my questions to you are:
  • Do you think the new testament is scripture?
  • Do you think Paul considered his own writings to be scripture, while he was writing them?
  • What makes scripture, scripture?
I look forward to reading the responses. Shalom!
 
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2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

"other scriptures"

This shows that Peter regarding Paul's epistles as being scripture.

Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Paul was directly taught by Christ so naturally what he would write would be scripture.
 
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The Apostle Paul wrote in 2nd Timothy 3:16 that "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

I have read this verse many times before and thought nothing much of it, it's a pretty self explanatory verse. Then I started thinking, when Paul wrote this, what was he referring to as scripture? He was writing a letter to Timothy, not knowing that generations later would consider his letters to be scripture. I do not think even Paul himself considered them to be scripture.

By this logic, the new testament isn't scripture. The new testament is Gospels, Epistles, and Prophecy. "Scripture" would purely mean the Old Testament.
This is not to say that the new testament isn't inspired or of God, it most certainly 100% is. Especially the gospels, which have the words of the Messiah!

So, my questions to you are:
  • Do you think the new testament is scripture?
  • Do you think Paul considered his own writings to be scripture, while he was writing them?
  • What makes scripture, scripture?
I look forward to reading the responses. Shalom!

I do think the NT is scripture, even if Paul didn't yet consider it so.
Did Moses or any of the OT prophets consider their own writings as scripture while they wrote them?
I doubt it.
It is the men who follow after who deem writings as of God, scripture, or not.
How?
By the truths manifested in them.

Good topic !
 
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  • Do you think the new testament is scripture?
  • Do you think Paul considered his own writings to be scripture, while he was writing them?
  • What makes scripture, scripture?

Absolutely, I do! I believe God when He inspired His writers to say: 1 Corinthians 2:13, 1 Thessalonians 2:13, Hebrews 4:12
Also, Romans 15:4. The whole Bible God has preserved His Word to teach and correct.

I'm not sure if Paul himself ever thought his letters would be part of scripture, but I do know he followed through to the end with the ministry Jesus Christ sent him on.

The Word of God is scripture. :yellowheart:

Good questions!
 
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