Thanks for responding!
Sorry, I do not have time to read rhetorical bunch of text. Let us let it be, then, if you are unwilling to present your thoughts in formal and simple manner.
On the contrary, it seems that it's extremely important to ask how we support God's existence for everyone, since if God does exist, it would be very valuable to be able to have a reasonable basis for proving or believing so, and if God does not exist, all those who believe he does are wrong, and often doing or not doing things for no reason at all. It seems that no matter which side you're on, the debate is an important one.
I remain thoroughly confused as to how my previous single sentence description of my critique was not simple and specific, but if that was not sufficiently simple I suppose all my other comments were irrelvant as well.
Thanks, that was a great comment!
I am curious about what you believe faith means, since many people have faith in various ideas, despite the evidence against them, or in favor of contradicting ideas, and it is often used as a way to excuse a lack of reason behind an argument, although I am not saying that that is what you're doing here, and found your response incredibly insightful and respectful.I would also say that most if not all of the beauty and balance in nature (which I also find wonderful) can potentially be explained as a matter of necessity, in the sense that for millenia, members of species which, say, didn't have clots when they started to bleed, bled out, and thus died. In short, nature forces "coincidences" to occur, because without these "coincidences" species and members of species die, leaving only those who do have these traits to continue living and continuing their species. I would also contend that the bible has not in fact predicted everything, and however you cut it, many individuals believe it to be deeply contradictory. However, before delving into that discussion I'd love to hear your thoughts on what has been said so far!
Not to me. The belief in God is internal. The HS provides that. I'm not going to convince someone of something he cannot grasp. And I don't care to. If you seek you will find. If you don't seek, then it doesn't matter. I have no interest in convincing those who are simply looking for an intellectual or philosophical exercise. You come to God on your knees. There is no other way.
I suppose if that's your perspective there really isn't any way to pursue the truth. Once you feel that you have found perfect truth and no matter the evidence, reason, or logic, your mind is made up, then dogma is the winning voice in the discussion, and there's no way for anyone to progress their thought. I do appreciate your participation in the discussion up until now, however!
Well, that is definitely an amazing story, and may I say that I am extremely happy that your surgery worked out well, that truly is an incredible situation, although it sounds very challenging. However, while that may satisfy your personal convictions of God, stories of personal satisfaction and belief can't create a reason-based foundation for God's existence as a whole.
That's understandable, but it's also true that in many ways religion, not only the belief in God, but also organized denominational religion, has made people change for the worse, in the sense that perfectly good, moral, and loving human beings can be gradually and sometimes radically corrupted in order to say and do horrible things they would never say nor do without the belief that what they believe, say, and do is in alignment with God's will. Religious conflicts, persecutions, the inquisition, horrible and hateful conqeusts, have all been some of many members on a long list of incidents which a convicted belief in God has generated. Obviously this doesn't mean that most religious people or even most religious beliefs produce bad things, but it does mean that organized religion has and does have more than enough negative influences to "counteract" it's benefits. In short, there are good people and there are bad people in the world, and it seems to me an illusion to declare that religious individuals have a monopoly of any kind upon any kind of morality (not that that's what you did in your response).
Well I’m only gonna speak for myself here, but I’m not that demanding of prophecies (as far as needing a bunch of them), because if only some things were predicted centuries before the fact that actually turned out to happen, I would be way more interested in dissecting just those few things to come to a conclusion for myself on whether or not just those few things were too difficult to guess at, or if those few things were just overly vague instances of getting lucky. In other words I’m not going to dis the few clues that are worth my investigation due to the fact that I think that many of the other clues aren’t worth my investigation because they are too vague.
