LDS Mormon Teachings About Hell

Jamesone5 · Apr 6, 2020

He is the way said:
(New Testament | John 5:30)

30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

(New Testament | John 14:28)

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

(New Testament | John 20:17)

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Right--- as I said [with John 20;17] you Mormons believe He is sub-God.my Father is greater than I. Or maybe not a God at all.

Jesus had a lot of titles, including ---He was the Son of man and the Son of God.

John 5:27
and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.

Obviously the Son of Man is figurative as well as Son of God.

Seems like you want to make Him not God at all with your three verses later in John. How could He then be the God or Lord of the OT, if that is the case?

Why can you not accept you have the wrong beliefs in Christ and God?

He is the way · Apr 6, 2020

Jamesone5 said:
Right--- as I said [with John 20;17] you Mormons believe He is sub-God.my Father is greater than I. Or maybe not a God at all.

Jesus had a lot of titles, including ---He was the Son of man and the Son of God.

John 5:27
and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.

Obviously the Son of Man is figurative as well as Son of God.

Seems like you want to make Him not God at all with your three verses later in John. How could He then be the God or Lord of the OT, if that is the case?

Why can you not accept you have the wrong beliefs in Christ and God?

Jesus Christ is the Lord God. I did not say Jesus was not a God. However we know that the Father is His God because Jesus said so. Will you ignore the scriptures I posted?

Jamesone5 · Apr 6, 2020

He is the way said:
Jesus Christ is the Lord God. I did not say Jesus was not a God. However we know that the Father is His God because Jesus said so. Will you ignore the scriptures I posted?

Jesus Christ is the Lord God. I did not say Jesus was not a God.---he is the Way

Two opposing and conflicting sentences.

See if you can truly assess the difference

He is the way · Apr 6, 2020

Jamesone5 said:
Jesus Christ is the Lord God. I did not say Jesus was not a God.---he is the Way

Two opposing and conflicting sentences.

See if you can truly assess the difference

There is NO difference. Jesus has many names.

Jamesone5 · Apr 6, 2020

He is the way said:
There is NO difference. Jesus has many names.

Wow, no wisdom from God,right?

I have learned over the years how to tell if a Mormon is truly indoctinated. He mixes up his "a'" with his "the"---generally in matters of his Religion. Here is what you said

Jesus Christ is the Lord God. I did not say Jesus was not a God.---he is the Way

The first sentence is truth while the second is false no matter how you phrase it. You are indoctinated to believe in two Gods----or how many you will say you believe in.

You hopefully would not refer to your wife as a wife, but the [or my] wife, indicating that you have only one wife.

It carries out in you testimonies and other discussions, where you tell me THE CoJCoLDS is the True Chruch or maybe referring to you prophet as THE prophet at times, evidently eliminating Moses as "a" prophet.

You obviously will not admit to this or cannot figure it out---so maybe it is for anyone else that does not want to get into an indoctrinating cult.

He is the way · Apr 6, 2020

Jamesone5 said:
Wow, no wisdom from God,right?

I have learned over the years how to tell if a Mormon is truly indoctinated. He mixes up his "a'" with his "the"---generally in matters of his Religion. Here is what you said

Jesus Christ is the Lord God. I did not say Jesus was not a God.---he is the Way

The first sentence is truth while the second is false no matter how you phrase it. You are indoctinated to believe in two Gods----or how many you will say you believe in.

You hopefully would not refer to your wife as a wife, but the [or my] wife, indicating that you have only one wife.

It carries out in you testimonies and other discussions, where you tell me THE CoJCoLDS is the True Chruch or maybe referring to you prophet as THE prophet at times, evidently eliminating Moses as "a" prophet.

You obviously will not admit to this or cannot figure it out---so maybe it is for anyone else that does not want to get into an indoctrinating cult.

It is obvious that there are many Gods and Lords:
(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 8:5 - 6)

5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 15:45 - 47)

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Jamesone5 · Apr 6, 2020

He is the way said:
It is obvious that there are many Gods and Lords:
(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 8:5 - 6)

5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 15:45 - 47)

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Yeah yeah, you have posted those verses before so absolutely nothing new. I would only be wasting my time yet again pointing out how you misinterpret them,

Tell you what

you go on worshiping you gods and lords. For me I am and Will WORSHIP the ONE True God

jacks · Apr 6, 2020

I"m not a Mormon, but I do admire how they stand up to the relentless attacks here on CF.

He is the way · Apr 6, 2020

Jamesone5 said:
Yeah yeah, you have posted those verses before so absolutely nothing new. I would only be wasting my time yet again pointing out how you misinterpret them,

Tell you what

you go on worshiping you god and lords. For me I am and Will WORSHIP the ONE True God

The most important thing is this:

(Old Testament | Ecclesiastes 12:13 - 14)

13 ¶ Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Jamesone5 · Apr 7, 2020

jacks said:
I"m not a Mormon, but I do admire how they stand up to the relentless attacks here on CF.

I count as my many friends who are Mormons, and part of my family is Mormon. We put matters of our individual Faiths aside. I was a Mormon for 40 years myself. My mother died a few years ago-having been a Mormon for her 93 years. When I left the Church, she and I used to discuss her Religion versus my new found Faith and not fight about it. At times, other Mormons have found that leaving me alone in my Faith is a good approach.

Over the years and having many Mormon missionaries come by--some good and some not so good in their approach. There is really a way in trying to "sell" their Religion, where they respectfully listen to your questions and try to answer them in the same way. I tried to the same thing when I was a Mormon. Here, that does not seem to be the case and that is where what you perceive as attacks, come up. I am a Believer in the True Christ and at times, they will subtly attack my Faith and that has been going on for the 25 years since I left the Church.

He is the way · Apr 7, 2020

Jamesone5 said:
I count as my many friends who are Mormons, and part of my family is Mormon. We put matters of our individual Faiths aside. I was a Mormon for 40 years myself. My mother died a few years ago-having been a Mormon for her 93 years. When I left the Church, she and I used to discuss her Religion versus my new found Faith and not fight about it. At times, other Mormons have found that leaving me alone in my Faith is a good approach.

Over the years and having many Mormon missionaries come by--some good and some not so good in their approach. There is really a way in trying to "sell" their Religion, where they respectfully listen to your questions and try to answer them in the same way. I tried to the same thing when I was a Mormon. Here, that does not seem to be the case and that is where what you perceive as attacks, come up. I am a Believer in the True Christ and at times, they will subtly attack my Faith and that has been going on for the 25 years since I left the Church.

What is your new found faith?

Jamesone5 · Apr 7, 2020

Had you been reading, it is not a "new-found Faith:---it has been tested and retested for about 25 years.

And, if I could be assured that you are interested it I would tell you. But Basically My Faith is in Christ--after all, He declared this:
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

I found the Joseph's Smith's way is NOT Christ's way.

My New life in Christ began 25 years ago when I left the Mormon Church after being in it for 40 years from birth.

He is the way · Apr 7, 2020

Jamesone5 said:
Had you been reading, it is not a "new-found Faith:---it has been tested and retested for about 25 years.

And, if I could be assured that you are interested it I would tell you. But Basically My Faith is in Christ--after all, He declared this:
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

I found the Joseph's Smith's way is NOT Christ's way.

My New life in Christ began 25 years ago when I left the Mormon Church after being in it for 40 years from birth.

You said: "Had you been reading, it is not a "new-found Faith:-"

But this is what you said in your post which I responded to, so I was reading:

"she and I used to discuss her Religion versus my new found Faith and not fight about it."

Then you did not tell me what it is.

Jamesone5 · Apr 7, 2020

He is the way said:
You said: "Had you been reading, it is not a "new-found Faith:-"

But this is what you said in your post which I responded to, so I was reading:

"she and I used to discuss her Religion versus my new found Faith and not fight about it."

Then you did not tell me what it is.

Why do you quibble about minor points? Could it be that you are attacking my Faith that has endured now for many years a subtle way? the key words here are "used to discuss"

And of course I told you about my Faith and what it entailed in the short version.
Here is even a shorter version:

Jesus Christ v. Joseph Smith as the Way.

Why do you not read?

Now if you do not want to defend your Faith and your Religion--please stop playing games.

He is the way · Apr 7, 2020

Jamesone5 said:
Why do you quibble about minor points? Could it be that you are attacking my Faith that has endured now for many years a subtle way? the key words here are "used to discuss"

And of course I told you about my Faith and what it entailed in the short version.
Here is even a shorter version:

Jesus Christ v. Joseph Smith as the Way.

Why do you not read?

Now if you do not want to defend your Faith and your Religion--please stop playing games.

You are the one playing games. Are you ashamed of the church you now belong to?

Jamesone5 · Apr 7, 2020

He is the way said:
You are the one playing games. Are you ashamed of the church you now belong to?

Why would I be ashamed?

He is the way · Apr 7, 2020

Jamesone5 said:
Why would I be ashamed?

I am not ashamed to state that I am a member of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. Are you ashamed to state which church you belong to?

Jamesone5 · Apr 7, 2020

He is the way said:
I am not ashamed to state that I am a member of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. Are you ashamed to state which church you belong to?

Why would I need to tell you? It is not an automatic measurement of my Faith in Christ.
We are discussing Faith in Christ---- not a worldly Religion.

But here again it is a subtle attack on me and my Church which evidently means I must be ashamed of it.

He is the way · Apr 7, 2020

Jamesone5 said:
Why would I need to tell you? It is not an automatic measurement of my Faith in Christ.
We are discussing Faith in Christ---- not a worldly Religion.

But here again it is a subtle attack on me and my Church which evidently means I must be ashamed of it.

I suspect you are afraid to say perhaps because Jehovah Witnesses are not treated as Christians. Are you a Jehovah Witness? Maybe you are hiding something.

Jamesone5 · Apr 7, 2020

He is the way said:
I suspect you are afraid to say perhaps because Jehovah Witnesses are not treated as Christians. Are you a Jehovah Witness? Maybe you are hiding something.

Are you a Unitarian posing as a Mormon?

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