Is this injustice?

lsume · Apr 6, 2020

mtatertayte said:
Are you born of God?

Yes. He made it very clear as He taught me. That started almost exactly 30 years ago. He will never stop raising His Children.

mtatertayte · Apr 6, 2020

lsume said:
Yes. He made it very clear as He taught me. That started almost exactly 30 years ago. He will never stop raising His Children.

How were you born of God?

mtatertayte · Apr 6, 2020

lsume said:
Yes. He made it very clear as He taught me. That started almost exactly 30 years ago. He will never stop raising His Children.

I do believe He stopped raising Jesus long ago.

lsume · Apr 6, 2020

mtatertayte said:
I do believe He stopped raising Jesus long ago.

Yes Christ was risen from the dead. Do you believe that you don’t go through what Christ went through to a much lesser extent? Christ is The Firstborn among many brethren.
Rom.8

[29] For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Please read The Scripture and pray for understanding.

DamianWarS · Apr 6, 2020

Hammster said:
(Borrowed)

Suppose 10 people sin and sin equally. Suppose God punishes five of them, and is merciful to the other five.

Is this injustice?

This either tells us God randomly bestows mercy upon us or it tells us God doesn't count sin to determine if he will grant mercy or not.

The information really isn't enough and at best you could call it "Schrodinger's Mercy" since we neither know who will get mercy and who will not. But you can't determine injustice with this information.

Dave L · Apr 6, 2020

Hammster said:
(Borrowed)

Suppose 10 people sin and sin equally. Suppose God punishes five of them, and is merciful to the other five.

Is this injustice?

God owes eternal death to all for their sins. If he pays for some absolving their debt, all is fair.

Hammster · Apr 6, 2020

Charlie24 said:
God will not change a heart without repentance. That is clear from scripture.

God may cause the situation that leads to repentance but it is still mans choice.

You're doing what all Calvinists do, trick questions that lead to, "I got ya."

Let’s say that I’m right. Would you be okay with that?

Hammster · Apr 6, 2020

Halbhh said:
Would be if that were all there is to it, but of course it is not; God isn't unjust but truly just.

(Reference: Romans chapter 2 and 3 in full)

Doesn’t answer the question.

Hammster · Apr 6, 2020

Charlie24 said:
I'm comparing the gods of the OT which are of Satan, to the God of the NT which is Christ.

That’s not what the verse says.

Hammster · Apr 6, 2020

mtatertayte said:
Your question is an injustice to wisdom.

That’s not an answer.

Hammster · Apr 6, 2020

prodromos said:
You are describing the false god of Islam

That’s not an answer.

Hammster · Apr 6, 2020

DamianWarS said:
This either tells us God randomly bestows mercy upon us or it tells us God doesn't count sin to determine if he will grant mercy or not.

The information really isn't enough and at best you could call it "Schrodinger's Mercy" since we neither know who will get mercy and who will not. But you can't determine injustice with this information.

We know that some do and some don’t.

Shishiru · Apr 6, 2020

Hammster said:
(Borrowed)

Suppose 10 people sin and sin equally. Suppose God punishes five of them, and is merciful to the other five.

Is this injustice?

God is always fair and we shouldn't question Him.

BBAS 64 · Apr 6, 2020

Hammster said:
(Borrowed)

Suppose 10 people sin and sin equally. Suppose God punishes five of them, and is merciful to the other five.

Is this injustice?

Good Day, Hammster

Nope... some get justice, and some get mercy, but no body gets injustice.

In Him,

Bill

AllDayFaith · Apr 6, 2020

Hammster said:
Then we are all doomed.

Yes we are all doomed, until we repent and accept Jesus as our Savior. Once we believe, we are saved, and we will have eternal life.

Hammster · Apr 6, 2020

AllDayFaith said:
Yes we are all doomed, until we repent and accept Jesus as our Savior. Once we believe, we are saved, and we will have eternal life.

With a wicked heart set against God, we will never repent and believe.

Kenny'sID · Apr 6, 2020

Hammster said:
Suppose 10 people sin and sin equally. Suppose God punishes five of them, and is merciful to the other five.

Why would we suppose God would do something like that to begin with?

Are there instances where he did?

ZNP · Apr 6, 2020

Hammster said:
(Borrowed)

Suppose 10 people sin and sin equally. Suppose God punishes five of them, and is merciful to the other five.

Is this injustice?

Not enough information. You told us about their sin and God's judgement. You have not told us about how these sinners have judged others.

Suppose the 5 that God showed mercy to had also showed mercy to others, whereas the 5 that God did not show mercy to did not show mercy to others? With what judgement you judge you shall be judged.

Hammster · Apr 6, 2020

Kenny'sID said:
Why would we suppose God would do something like that to begin with?

Are there instances where he did?

He would because otherwise nobody would be saved. And it’s happened since before creation.

Hammster · Apr 6, 2020

ZNP said:
Not enough information. You told us about their sin and God's judgement. You have not told us about how these sinners have judged others.

Suppose the 5 that God showed mercy to had also showed mercy to others, whereas the 5 that God did not show mercy to did not show mercy to others? With what judgement you judge you shall be judged.

What if the Five not chosen were generally nicer people and gave more to charity and helped old ladies across the street?

What we do doesn’t matter.

Is this injustice?

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