Mark of the beast solution to Covid-19 economic crash

BobRyan · Apr 5, 2020

New York is currently a ghost town from what we see of some video taken there. The economy is nearing a huge "slow down". You can see desperation in some of the news clips and a fearful expectation about what is coming if things don't change fast. No vaccine expected this year.. and possibly not the first of next year either.

By contrast we now hear that a test will soon be available to see how far "herd immunity" has come along to "save the day" even without a vaccine. Who is it that "has the antibody" already? If there are enough of those folks in the next few weeks - then they are the ones who are immune - they can go back to work, they can shop at stores without all that PPE - They can meet in groups, play sports, go to games, restart the economy. They can freely "buy and sell" and won't spread any corona virus damage.

Well that leaves one question "who are they"? How do we make them easily identifiable so we know who to quarantine and who to allow to "freely go about buying and selling"? to use Revelation 13 terms.

That group will continue to grow in size as more and more people get exposed and either show no symptoms or "recover nicely". At the same time America will be more and more desperate to get the economy back up and running.

So then how then will the good guys - be "tracked" identified - and promoted back into useful productivity?

Not saying this would "be" the mark of the beast -- I am saying that it is trying to get to the same "who can buy or sell" decision point and might use a similar identifier (biometric??) to do it.

timothyu · Apr 5, 2020

This if anything could be still considered a test run, but then again quite possible in the future considering who is involved. The only problem this time around is everybody seems to think it's all about the States of America. It needs to be a global economic takeover.

chevyontheriver · Apr 5, 2020

BobRyan said:
New York is currently a ghost town from what we see of some video taken there. The economy is nearing a huge "slow down". You can see desperation in some of the news clips and a fearful expectation about what is coming if things don't change fast. No vaccine expected this year.. and possibly not the first of next year either.

By contrast we now hear that a test will soon be available to see how far "herd immunity" has come along to "save the day" even without a vaccine. Who is it that "has the antibody" already? If there are enough of those folks in the next few weeks - then they are the ones who are immune - they can go back to work, they can shop at stores without all that PPE - They can meet in groups, play sports, go to games, restart the economy. They can freely "buy and sell" and won't spread any corona virus damage.

Well that leaves one question "who are they"? How do we make them easily identifiable so we know who to quarantine and who to allow to "freely go about buying and selling"? to use Revelation 13 terms.

That group will continue to grow in size as more and more people get exposed and either show no symptoms or "recover nicely". At the same time America will be more and more desperate to get the economy back up and running.

So then how then will the good guys - be "tracked" identified - and promoted back into useful productivity?

Not saying this would "be" the mark of the beast -- I am saying that it is trying to get to the same "who can buy or sell" decision point and might use a similar identifier (biometric??) to do it.

I can buy and sell and work right now, and I haven't had any particular disease. I am ambivalent about being an 'essential' person who has to go out into the old real world to work. And I bought something today on line and I sold something last week where we finalized the deal on line. There is no need to publicly distinguish those who have had versus those who have not had this disease for economic purposes.

athenken · Apr 5, 2020

I have been hearing more and more of this lately. There really is only one reason for this, population control. I don't see this actually coming to fruition in the near future as there is still plenty of opposition to vaccines in their current state.

Now if they actually want to develop vaccines that do not include ingredients that don't kill people that could certainly open things up, but they don't want to do that. There is a reason why Big Pharma has a "get out of jail free" card when it comes to people who have been injured or died because of what is today's vaccines.

Leet · Apr 6, 2020

Look up ID2020.
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Jonathan Walkerin · Apr 6, 2020

BobRyan said:
They can meet in groups, play sports, go to games, restart the economy. They can freely "buy and sell" and won't spread any corona virus damage.

Even if they are immune they can still spread the disease.

Having immunity for the virus is not magically going to kill the germs on your hand if you grab a wrong door handle and then 5 mins later give a hug to your wife.

athenken said:
Now if they actually want to develop vaccines that do not include ingredients that don't kill people that could certainly open things up, but they don't want to do that. There is a reason why Big Pharma has a "get out of jail free" card when it comes to people who have been injured or died because of what is today's vaccines

I love the smugness and “know everything that is really a secret” attitude of people living in a society made safe for diseases like polio because the of vaccines they are now free to ignore because herd immunity is up and running.

Being anti vacciner is so trendy these days. Well, before you infect other people and get them killed or injured of course.

athenken · Apr 6, 2020

Jonathan Walkerin said:
Even if they are immune they can still spread the disease.

Having immunity for the virus is not magically going to kill the germs on your hand if you grab a wrong door handle and then 5 mins later give a hug to your wife.

I love the smugness and “know everything that is really a secret” attitude of people living in a society made safe for diseases like polio because the of vaccines they are now free to ignore because herd immunity is up and running.

Being anti vacciner is so trendy these days. Well, before you infect other people and get them killed or injured of course.

What you fail to recognize is that it really wasn't vaccines that resulted in the drop of diseases like polio, it was improved hygiene and sanitation. All vaccines did, especially when Big Pharma started really pushing it after they basically got immunity from the government on vaccine damage cases. Unless you are immunocompromised your best bet to get over an illness is to boost your immune system by eating things high in vitamin C, A, D and taking more zinc.

Kaon · Apr 6, 2020

timothyu said:
This if anything could be still considered a test run, but then again quite possible in the future considering who is involved. The only problem this time around is everybody seems to think it's all about the States of America. It needs to be a global economic takeover.

This is a trial run, but it could also be the real deal if we allow it - which we will.

If i was exploiting humans as famously as they have been exploited, I would just use Coronavirus to keep people in fear. Any time my citizens get too uppity, or if I need to make questionable public moves: oh noes Coronavirus! Everyone will social distance and I get to do what I need to do with few witnesses. I won't even look like the bad guy declaring martial law because (as usual) the citizens will fall in line exactly as I need them to out of fear. That is how you manipulate a population while giving them the impression they are in control. I can even put on shows and get celebrities to join in on the activity of distancing, and make it fun for people!

But, I am positive Americans want this type of outcome (aforementioned and the OP) because who would spend decades ignoring warnings about this if it wasn't genuinely wanted and needed by the people? America and the world has been we trained to want what their oppressors want - except most humans believe their oppressors do not exist, or that they have their best interest at heart. Ho hum...

Kaon · Apr 6, 2020

athenken said:
What you fail to recognize is that it really wasn't vaccines that resulted in the drop of diseases like polio, it was improved hygiene and sanitation. All vaccines did, especially when Big Pharma started really pushing it after they basically got immunity from the government on vaccine damage cases. Unless you are immunocompromised your best bet to get over an illness is to boost your immune system by eating things high in vitamin C, A, D and taking more zinc.

I think this advice is considered "woo woo" here...

BobRyan · Apr 6, 2020

Jonathan Walkerin said:
Even if they are immune they can still spread the disease.

If the people they meet at work and in the store are all the "other people" that are also immune - they cannot spread anything. so that's "herd immunity". The only ones "at risk" in that case are non-immune people that are supposed to have been self-quarantined at home rather than at work or in the store.

In the OP scenario the immune group is not making non-immune people "immune" it is just restarting the economy.

BobRyan · Apr 6, 2020

athenken said:
What you fail to recognize is that it really wasn't vaccines that resulted in the drop of diseases like polio, it was improved hygiene and sanitation. All vaccines did, especially when Big Pharma started really pushing it after they basically got immunity from the government on vaccine damage cases. Unless you are immunocompromised your best bet to get over an illness is to boost your immune system by eating things high in vitamin C, A, D and taking more zinc.

I agree with boosting the immune system -- but there is no such thing as "when vaccines became available it just-so-happened that everyone also got pumped up on Vitamins A-C-D at the same time" so it looked-like less cases of the epidemic due to vaccination when in fact it was just a whole bunch of people taking their vitamins. That is simply not a reasonable version of history.

Jonathan Walkerin · Apr 6, 2020

BobRyan said:
If the people they meet at work and in the store are all the "other people" that are also immune - they cannot spread anything. so that's "herd immunity". The only ones "at risk" in that case are non-immune people that are supposed to have been self-quarantined at home rather than at work or in the store.

In the OP scenario the immune group is not making non-immune people "immune" it is just restarting the economy.

I see. And these hypothetical immune people do not have families, friends or loved ones and they just sleep at their workplaces ?

Braindead idea.

timothyu · Apr 6, 2020

Jonathan Walkerin said:
living in a society made safe for diseases like polio because the of vaccines

The safe effective vaccines were made of dead viruses, not the mutant living gmo concoctions of today. The polio vaccine V 2:0 which was live, was eventually banned.

BobRyan · Apr 6, 2020

Jonathan Walkerin said:
I see. And these hypothetical immune people do not have families, friends or loved ones and they just sleep at their workplaces ?

Braindead idea.

No the immune group has the same scenario at home as anyone else not "a worse one". The immune group will increase over time and they are the ones that can return to normal activity and those at risk would need to do the same thing they are doing now - self-quarantine. There is no "increased risk" for those staying in quarantine and no "increased risk" for those who are immune. All there is - is an economy starting to turn around in that case.

BobRyan · Apr 6, 2020

timothyu said:
The safe effective vaccines were made of dead viruses, not the mutant living gmo concoctions of today. The polio vaccine V 2:0 which was live, was eventually banned.

The GMO "fragments" of a virus being distributed today in vaccine form never were "alive" in that form. They are just target-dummies for the immune system to practice against.

For example:
"The Center for Vaccine Research at Pitt now has successfully taken a portion of the virus that leads to COVID-19 and attached it to a genetically modified measles vaccine that has been used for years."
Pitt Researchers Attach Coronavirus To Genetically Modified Measles Vaccine

more background info
Genetically engineered vaccines: An overview

athenken · Apr 6, 2020

BobRyan said:
I agree with boosting the immune system -- but there is no such thing as "when vaccines became available it just-so-happened that everyone also got pumped up on Vitamins A-C-D at the same time" so it looked-like less cases of the epidemic due to vaccination when in fact it was just a whole bunch of people taking their vitamins. That is simply not a reasonable version of history.

Didn't say anything about people suddenly taking their vitamins. I am talking about the reduction in infectious diseases coinciding with people becoming more hygienic and sanitation levels increasing.

BobRyan · Apr 6, 2020

athenken said:
Didn't say anything about people suddenly taking their vitamins. I am talking about the reduction in infectious diseases coinciding with people becoming more hygienic and sanitation levels increasing.

There is a lot to be said for that of course - but it seems to me that the SARS MERS Covid-19 AIDs swine-flu (H1N1) etc sequences breaking out in the past 50 years are an increasing negative trend for human suffering.

timothyu · Apr 6, 2020

BobRyan said:
are an increasing negative trend for human suffering.

Especially when they can't stay off of planes and boats. We reap what we sow. God scattered man for a reason.

BobRyan · Apr 12, 2020

chevyontheriver said:
I can buy and sell and work right now, and I haven't had any particular disease.

Same here but I do have to "shelter in place" and there is more and more talk on national news about "getting the card" - the one that says you have the antibody for Corona virus. And the more desperate the nation is to "have jobs" the higher that idea rises in priority.

fewme · Apr 12, 2020

I can remember when the Soviet Union was The Antichrist.

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