Does the Crucifixion inspire you?

cloudyday2 said:

Does the Crucifixion inspire you? It doesn't inspire me. I don't even feel sorry for Jesus as a fellow human being who suffered, because it was so long ago and I have heard the story so many times. The teachings of Jesus inspire me though. If Christianity was only about the teachings of Jesus then I could probably buy it.

Just wondering how you feel about it and why?

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When I think of why He came and took the body of man on this earth, to put us back in good standing with the Father through the Cross, I can only believe that He loves me.

Most folks that can't accept Christ think well I can't do this or that anymore. They have never read God's Word in faith,

Phil 2:13
"for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure."

It's God through the Spirit that changes us. Paul tells us about the regeneration of man through faith. We no longer want to do those things, and it's His doing, not ours.

He does it all, that's why the bible calls it Grace, all we do is believe and he does the leading. We just surrender to Him and maintain the relationship.

The hardest thing for man to do is to give up his life for Christ, and let Him live through us. There is no other way, one must make that commitment to Christ.

Most of the world simply will not do that. Not realizing that life in Christ is a peace that can't be described.

cloudyday2 said:

Does the Crucifixion inspire you? It doesn't inspire me. I don't even feel sorry for Jesus as a fellow human being who suffered, because it was so long ago and I have heard the story so many times. The teachings of Jesus inspire me though. If Christianity was only about the teachings of Jesus then I could probably buy it.

Just wondering how you feel about it and why?

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Yeah, I'm curious as to what others psychologically get from it. Be as detailed as possible please.

Sacrificing oneself inorder for another to live is a perfect expression of love. Because of that, I am also learning to place others before me. For example, last year I was led to pray for my 2 cousins though they didn't actually know I was praying for them. Then the Lord heard my prayer and remembered them yet, I've still not broken through in certain areas of my life. The story of the cross gives me a reason to deny myself daily.

cloudyday2 said:

Does the Crucifixion inspire you? It doesn't inspire me. I don't even feel sorry for Jesus as a fellow human being who suffered, because it was so long ago and I have heard the story so many times. The teachings of Jesus inspire me though. If Christianity was only about the teachings of Jesus then I could probably buy it.

Just wondering how you feel about it and why?

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Millions have died so that others may live,

WW2 is one example of many.

So there has to be something more for it to make
headlines.

Perhaps a demonstration that death is not the end.

But it takes the shine off of things when there is a revolving sword to bar the way to the tree of life.

So man does not stretch forth his hand and pluck from it.
Genesis 3:22-24

Grateful would be a better word for me.

cloudyday2 said:

Does the Crucifixion inspire you? It doesn't inspire me. I don't even feel sorry for Jesus as a fellow human being who suffered, because it was so long ago and I have heard the story so many times. The teachings of Jesus inspire me though. If Christianity was only about the teachings of Jesus then I could probably buy it.

Just wondering how you feel about it and why?

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I'm inspired only by the idea that each of us has that Christ aspect within us that is also ready to rise and become known.

The crucifixion inspires me because it is part of the Incarnation: to take on a human life is to take on a human death also. The Incarnation inspires me because of what it implies about God.

God experienced a human life, including all the pain that human life entails: loneliness, exhaustion, the little things like colds and splinters, and the big and terrible things like the barbaric form of Roman execution. When I've sat with family members in their dying hours, and when I come eventually to the end of my own life and whatever suffering will precede it, it matters to me that God walks with me as one who knows what this path is like.

MehGuy said:

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One thing > Jesus is God's own Son . . . not only a human who got killed for trying to get people to accept His ideas.

But Jesus was in Heaven before He came here. He is so superior, so better than humans; yet Jesus is not at all conceited, I now can see, if He came here to reach us and share with us, even sharing in how humans can suffer and be rejected.

Plus, of course, there is nothing wrong with Jesus, to be reason to reject Him. But we humans have been the wrong ones; yet, Jesus did not just say oh you deserve what you get, for what you have gotten your own selves into, but He went through that suffering and death . . . for us. We needed Him to do that.

So, Jesus is my example of not being conceited, and of having hope for any and all people > even the most evil of people > Jesus on the cross suffered and died with hope for any and all people. Plus, He is our example . . . of how to love, anyway, even if we don't suffer like He did >

"And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma." (Ephesians 5:2)

But I have been one to try to get status for being with Jesus; meanwhile, I could welcome an opportunity to look down on wrong people. So, I have been one to have a conceit problem. And Jesus on the cross has helped me to get into having compassion, instead.

cloudyday2 said:

Does the Crucifixion inspire you? It doesn't inspire me. I don't even feel sorry for Jesus as a fellow human being who suffered, because it was so long ago and I have heard the story so many times. The teachings of Jesus inspire me though. If Christianity was only about the teachings of Jesus then I could probably buy it.

Just wondering how you feel about it and why?

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The Crucifixion's only causes me grief. I am inspired by the Resurrection. Without that I would find a lot of what Jesus said to have been the ravings of a mentally ill man. Jesus' claims were not claims to innovative or original philosophical thought. Much of what He said about how to behave toward others was not new to those that heard it. What He claimed about Himself were what set Him apart.

A lot of people can babble "teachings", someone who died for humanity is more inspiring. The sad thing is that current Western culture prefers to consume listening and not perform it.

Robban said:

Millions have died so that others may live,

WW2 is one example of many.

So there has to be something more for it to make
headlines.

Perhaps a demonstration that death is not the end.

But it takes the shine off of things when there is a revolving sword to bar the way to the tree of life.

So man does not stretch forth his hand and pluck from it.
Genesis 3:22-24

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It's true that millions have given their lives that others may live. But not the way Christ did it.

Without Him giving Himself as a prefect sacrifice, acceptable to the Father, no one could be given life, spiritual life.

He was the only One who could do it. That's what makes it different.

Charlie24 said:

It's true that millions have given their lives that others may live. But not the way Christ did it.

Without Him giving Himself as a prefect sacrifice, acceptable to the Father, no one could be given life, spiritual life.

He was the only One who could do it. That's what makes it different.

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If the event never happened, how would today be any different?

Robban said:

If the event never happened, how would today be any different?

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Robban said:

If the event never happened, how would today be any different?

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Heb. 9:26
"For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself."

No sin could be forgiven!

Charlie24 said:

Heb. 9:26
"For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself."

No sin could be forgiven!

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G-d can find within Himself to forgive.
It is not there the problem lay.

Man v man is where the problem lay.

Robban said:

G-d can find within Himself to forgive.
It is not there the problem lay.

Man v man is where the problem lay.

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That's true according to the Law. We are no longer under the Law.

But I suppose you are, worshiping in Judaism.

Charlie24 said:

That's true according to the Law. We are no longer under the Law.

But I suppose you are, worshiping in Judaism.

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Yes there is a code of Jewish Law, very fascinating
and very enriching, however,
we should practice what we study,

Meaning as attractive as it is we should also apply it
or find a way to apply it today,

For every piece of Torah one learns one must find a way to apply it.

Though Torah means instructions.

Robban said:

Yes there is a code of Jewish Law, very fascinating
and very enriching, however,
we should practice what we study,

Meaning as attractive as it is we should also apply it
or find a way to apply it today,

For every piece of Torah one learns one must find a way to apply it.

Though Torah means instructions.

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According to the Torah, what was the purpose of the animal sacrifice?

Charlie24 said:

According to the Torah, what was the purpose of the animal sacrifice?

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Today G-d does not want any animal sacrifice.

But I can say for me the greatest sacrifice was in
slaughtering a lamb and stroke it,s blood on the doorpost and over lentil of the house in which one dwelt.

For the Egyptians a lamb was a god,

to slaughter their god and stroke it,s blood on the door posts and over lentil,
the angel of death would pass over.

That is what means most for me just now,
with passover starting the 8th.

We have much to celebrate.

Robban said:

Today G-d does not want any animal sacrifice.

But I can say for me the greatest sacrifice was in
slaughtering a lamb and stroke it,s blood on the doorpost and over lentil of the house in which one dwelt.

For the Egyptians a lamb was a god,

to slaughter their god and stroke it,s blood on the door posts and over lentil,
the angel of death would pass over.

That is what means most for me just now,
with passover starting the 8th.

We have much to celebrate.

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Whether you live under the Law or by Grace there must be the shedding of blood for the forgiveness of sin.

Under the Law that is no longer possible, and if it were, you would have to go to Israel and have the priests offer the sacrifice for you, in the designated spot that God has chosen.

Those who claim to live under the Law are not keeping the Law. they have revised it to their standard and not God's requirement.