Trump prevented coronavirus pandemic on level of Italy, Iran

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The USA has half as many deaths as Italy but also has 6 times more people. Hopefully we are able to flatten the curve.

We have 2.5x as many total cases and our numbers for new cases and new deaths are still rising. Italy is seeing fewer new cases and new deaths each day.
 
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Trump? The president of the country with the largest numbers of people sick in the entire world?

He has proven to be the best man for the job when it comes to the Coronavirus.
60% approval last I heard.
Probably even higher now?

Who will be best to put the economy back together after this is over?
Trump by far!

Looking like 2020 no problem for Trump.

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He has proven to be the best man for the job when it comes to the Coronavirus.
60% approval last I heard.
Probably even higher now?

Who will be best to put the economy back together after this is over?
Trump by far!

Looking like 2020 no problem for Trump.

M-Bob

It’ll be amusing to watch you and others suddenly change your tune regarding the appropriateness of increased deficit spending during a recession.
 
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We have 2.5x as many total cases and our numbers for new cases and new deaths are still rising. Italy is seeing fewer new cases and new deaths each day.
Italy has 15,362 deaths while the USA has only 5,116. The USA has more cases because they have 6 times more people. I would expect the US to have 6 times more patients, not just 2.5 more. I would also expect 6 times more deaths in the USA, but thats not the case either. . America must be doing something right.
 
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It’ll be amusing to watch you and others suddenly change your tune regarding the appropriateness of increased deficit spending during a recession.

It seems that you may find joy in strange places?

If I thought like that
I would have no goats nor a
sweet little MountainLady.

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He has proven to be the best man for the job when it comes to the Coronavirus.
60% approval last I heard.
Probably even higher now?

Who will be best to put the economy back together after this is over?
Trump by far!

Looking like 2020 no problem for Trump.

M-Bob
The most recent poll I can find indicates that only 47% of Americans approve of his response.
 
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The most recent poll I can find indicates that only 47% of Americans approve of his response.

I will no longer do your homework for you.
M-Bob

https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/media-mystified-as-us-rallies-behind-trump-amid-coronavirus-crisis/

The Times wasn’t alone in its shock at the public response: MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell was utterly flabbergasted by polls showing his approval ratings among Democrats and independents “skyrocketing” to 60 percent for his handling of the crisis.
 
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I will no longer do your homework for you.
M-Bob

https://nypost.com/2020/04/04/media-mystified-as-us-rallies-behind-trump-amid-coronavirus-crisis/

The Times wasn’t alone in its shock at the public response: MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell was utterly flabbergasted by polls showing his approval ratings among Democrats and independents “skyrocketing” to 60 percent for his handling of the crisis.
Good thing you won't do my homework for me, because that was shoddy work. The Post didn't cite where they were getting their numbers from. I found it here, Bloomberg - Are you a robot? in a article released on march 24th. Yet this poll released 2 days ago Coronavirus Outbreak Triggering Significant Changes to American Society finds only a 47% percent approval rating. The fact that the Post didn't link to any poll numbers should have been a red flag that there was something wrong with the numbers.
 
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Italy has 15,362 deaths while the USA has only 5,116. The USA has more cases because they have 6 times more people. I would expect the US to have 6 times more patients, not just 2.5 more. I would also expect 6 times more deaths in the USA, but thats not the case either. . America must be doing something right.

Italy has more deaths because their cases came earlier than ours; our number of deaths will eclipse theirs within 2 weeks, probably less. Our numbers of new cases and new deaths continues to grow each day, while Italy’s does not.
 
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Good thing you won't do my homework for me, because that was shoddy work. The Post didn't cite where they were getting their numbers from. I found it here, Bloomberg - Are you a robot? in a article released on march 24th. Yet this poll released 2 days ago Coronavirus Outbreak Triggering Significant Changes to American Society finds only a 47% percent approval rating. The fact that the Post didn't link to any poll numbers should have been a red flag that there was something wrong with the numbers.

Bottom line
Trump easy win in 2020.
Biden would misplace keys to White House.

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Italy has more deaths because their cases came earlier than ours; our number of deaths will eclipse theirs within 2 weeks, probably less. Our numbers of new cases and new deaths continues to grow each day, while Italy’s does not.

Just curious
how many more people in the US?
Think that makes a difference?
M-Bob
 
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Just curious
how many more people in the US?
Think that makes a difference?
M-Bob
The US has about 5.5 times as many people, so that does make a difference. It's also worth pointing out though Italy has tested far more people as a proportion of their population compared to the US.
 
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The US has about 5.5 times as many people, so that does make a difference. It's also worth pointing out though Italy has tested far more people as a proportion of their population compared to the US.
What percentage of people tested do both countries have?
 
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What percentage of people tested do both countries have?
pcm-dpc/COVID-19 US Historical Data. It took some number crunching, and I do want to specify that the US numbers aren't official. That being said, it appears that Italy has tested about 1% of it's population and the US has tested about .5% of it's population.
 
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pcm-dpc/COVID-19 US Historical Data. It took some number crunching, and I do want to specify that the US numbers aren't official. That being said, it appears that Italy has tested about 1% of it's population and the US has tested about .5% of it's population.
Maybe the US and Italy have only tested people with symptoms. If thats true then Italy has three times as many people showing symptoms, yet they have far less people than the Us has.. Im not seeing how the US is as bad or worse than Italy.
 
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Maybe the US and Italy have only tested people with symptoms. If thats true then Italy has three times as many people showing symptoms, yet they have far less people than the Us has.. Im not seeing how the US is as bad or worse than Italy.
Maybe this will help.

The US is running about two weeks behind Italy, therefore our numbers are lagging behind that country. I saw where someone had mentioned this earlier, so I'm going to add a couple of charts to help illustrate this.

Looking at the chart below, you will see that the US has already passed the daily death toll of where Italy was two weeks ago. Italy's daily death toll is now in decline, while ours continues to increase substantially each day. To compare The US to Italy, you have to look at where our numbers stand today, and compare them to where Italy was two weeks ago.

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In this next chart it is clear to see that The US is way ahead of any county at the same point from the time it recorded it's 20th case than any other country in the world. (For example, the US reached 100,000 confirmed cases in only 14 days after the 20th case was reported, where Italy took around 40 days to reach 100,000 cases)

Deaths lag behind cases by around two weeks, so the death toll two weeks from now in the US is going to be very high compared to other countries worldwide.

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Two weeks ago Italy had around 47,000 cases and around 5,000 deaths. At the time of this post, the US has around 321,000 cases (Roughly 7 times the number as Italy two weeks ago) and around 9,100 deaths (Roughly 2 times the number as Italy two weeks ago). While it's true that the US has a higher population than Italy, 327 million compared to 60 million, even if the US doesn't see another case between today and two weeks from now, with the current fatality rate of the coronavirus, our number of deaths will easily be 3 to 5 times higher than where Italy stands today. Unfortunately the number of cases continue to rise by tens of thousands each day (34,000+ yesterday), so our death toll may end up being more than 5 times that of Italy.
 
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Maybe this will help.

The US is running about two weeks behind Italy, therefore our numbers are lagging behind that country. I saw where someone had mentioned this earlier, so I'm going to add a couple of charts to help illustrate this.

Looking at the chart below, you will see that the US has already passed the daily death toll of where Italy was two weeks ago. Italy's daily death toll is now in decline, while ours continues to increase substantially each day. To compare The US to Italy, you have to look at where our numbers stand today, and compare them to where Italy was two weeks ago.

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In this next chart it is clear to see that The US is way ahead of any county at the same point from the time it recorded it's 20th case than any other country in the world. (For example, the US reached 100,000 confirmed cases in only 14 days after the 20th case was reported, where Italy took around 40 days to reach 100,000 cases)

Deaths lag behind cases by around two weeks, so the death toll two weeks from now in the US is going to be very high compared to other countries worldwide.

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Two weeks ago Italy had around 47,000 cases and around 5,000 deaths. At the time of this post, the US has around 321,000 cases (Roughly 7 times the number as Italy two weeks ago) and around 9,100 deaths (Roughly 2 times the number as Italy two weeks ago). While it's true that the US has a higher population than Italy, 327 million compared to 60 million, even if the US doesn't see another case between today and two weeks from now, with the current fatality rate of the coronavirus, our number of deaths will easily be 3 to 5 times higher than where Italy stands today. Unfortunately the number of cases continue to rise by tens of thousands each day (34,000+ yesterday), so our death toll may end up being more than 5 times that of Italy.

A country's death toll will also be dependent on how it handles things. If one country ends their lockdowns too early, it could lengthen the time it takes for the death toll to drop. As we've seen, even one single case of an infected person can wreak havoc. China is reporting no new cases, although it's doubtful we can trust their reporting. I'd be very hesitant to believe that there aren't any unknown cases of the virus inhabiting a single person in that entire country of 1.5 billion people that couldn't start the spread of the virus there all over again.
 
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