What are some reasons to support Trump?

Has Donald Trump been good for America?

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OldWiseGuy

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Not really an answer,

Why does he talk about his ratings during this crisis?

Why does he talk about his uncle the electrical engineer during this crisis?

Well, he is in charge of what he says. I'll give you that.
 
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The President that helped to catch a slipping away USA and turn it back into the Right direction.
M-Bob
You mean the direction in which the nation fails to act while a virus threatens to cull the weak and the elderly?

That direction?
 
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You mean the direction in which the nation fails to act while a virus threatens to cull the weak and the elderly?

That direction?

No you missed the point.
Think another poster pointed it out well
but, you may have also missed that one?
Hopefully not a three striker?
M-Bob
 
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Here is my opinion on the psychology of standing by Donald Trump. I am quite confident that many Trump voters were acting in good faith when they voted on that dark day in November 2016. Let's imagine what it would be like to be one of those well-intentioned voters.

You see the man you voted for behaving liking a petulant adolescent. And he lies, boy does he lie. In general, his words and his actions scream out the fact that he is not remotely qualified for this job.

How can you manage this without having to admit you made a mistake - something that is hard for all of us, not just Trump supporters, to admit?

Well, you double-down. Here is the key point: If the problems were relatively minor, you could, without losing face admit that perhaps he has some problems - you wouldn't be in such an uncomfortable position (having voted for him) if, say, he committed the same kind of mistakes other leaders have made.

But, as you surely must know, Mr. Trump has gone "all in" - he is childish, vindictive, boorish, ill-spoken, inclined to self aggrandizement.......one needs a dictionary to complete the list.

So this well-intentioned Trump voter is in a spot - if they even open the door to agreeing that he has any shortcomings, the deluge will follow. So, in order to defend their own ego, they staunchly defend the man, quite possibly convincing themselves that (to quote from Orwell):

War is peace;
Freedom is slavery;
Ignorance is strength.
 
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Here is my opinion on the psychology of standing by Donald Trump. I am quite confident that many Trump voters were acting in good faith when they voted on that dark day in November 2016. Let's imagine what it would be like to be one of those well-intentioned voters.

You see the man you voted for behaving liking a petulant adolescent. And he lies, boy does he lie. In general, his words and his actions scream out the fact that he is not remotely qualified for this job.

How can you manage this without having to admit you made a mistake - something that is hard for all of us, not just Trump supporters, to admit?

Well, you double-down. Here is the key point: If the problems were relatively minor, you could, without losing face admit that perhaps he has some problems - you wouldn't be in such an uncomfortable position (having voted for him) if, say, he committed the same kind of mistakes other leaders have made.

But, as you surely must know, Mr. Trump has gone "all in" - he is childish, vindictive, boorish, ill-spoken, inclined to self aggrandizement.......one needs a dictionary to complete the list.

So this well-intentioned Trump voter is in a spot - if they even open the door to agreeing that he has any shortcomings, the deluge will follow. So, in order to defend their own ego, they staunchly defend the man, quite possibly convincing themselves that (to quote from Orwell):

War is peace;
Freedom is slavery;
Ignorance is strength.

We need to reelect Trump so he can finish what he started.
 
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We need to reelect Trump so he can finish what he started.

This pandemic isn’t killing enough people so he needs another more lethal one to finish us off ?
 
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From the link--
"Bloomberg noted that Trump Tower had been wracked by financial woes over the last two years. The occupancy rate in the building had fallen from 99% to 83%, and the majority of condos in the building had sold at a loss.

"No one wants in that building," Michael Sklar, a former Trump Tower condo owner, told Bloomberg."

Let's see if the facts faze the any of the President's detractors. I'm going to guess it's "no."
 
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I am quite confident that many Trump voters were acting in good faith when they voted on that dark day in November 2016.


Let's imagine what it would be like to be one of those well-intentioned voters.

You see the man you voted for behaving liking a petulant adolescent. And he lies, boy does he lie. In general, his words and his actions scream out the fact that he is not remotely qualified for this job.

How can you manage this without having to admit you made a mistake - something that is hard for all of us, not just Trump supporters, to admit?

Well, you double-down. Here is the key point: If the problems were relatively minor, you could, without losing face admit that perhaps he has some problems - you wouldn't be in such an uncomfortable position (having voted for him) if, say, he committed the same kind of mistakes other leaders have made.

But, as you surely must know, Mr. Trump has gone "all in" - he is childish, vindictive, boorish, ill-spoken, inclined to self aggrandizement.......one needs a dictionary to complete the list.

So this well-intentioned Trump voter is in a spot - if they even open the door to agreeing that he has any shortcomings, the deluge will follow. So, in order to defend their own ego, they staunchly defend the man, quite possibly convincing themselves that (to quote from Orwell):

War is peace;
Freedom is slavery;
Ignorance is strength.

It will be a bright day in 2020
when Trump is reelected.
M-Bob
 
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The problem with arguments such as the one happening in this thread is that most of the participants are speaking but not listening. There are exceptions, and I try to be an exception myself, but most of the time when a post gets rebutted, the original poster will deny the rebuttal rather than admit that perhaps that particular rebuttal might have made a good point.

In another forum I answered some people who were claiming that a real Jesus never existed. I posted the common line that "there is more hard evidence for the existence of Jesus than there is for the existence of Julius Caesar." Somebody answered and rebutted that statement with an argument that I had never heard. It didn't change my mind about the historical reality of Jesus, but it did change my perspective about the particular line I used. I answered by acknowledging that the poster had made a good point, and I thanked him for sharing. I wish I saw that kind of response from more people.
Yeahbut this here is “American Politics”, a place where reality seems a bit more malleable.
 
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