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Hi packerman,

Just to let you know that I did read your response to me. However, that isn't what this thread is about and so I'm withdrawing from the discussion of abortion on this thread. If you'd like to continue it, I'll be happy to participate in your thread.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

I disagree. You hate Trump. You cannot hate Trump and hate abortion since Trump has been one of the most successful presidents in limiting abortions. Look at the disgusting pictures of aborted babies. Click on this.

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The Democrats are for continuing the slaughter of these babies. They have it in their platform. You want Biden, who is for the killing of these babies, to beat Trump. I am sorry, but that is just sick. Anyone who is for the killing of babies is no better than Hitler.

He is saving lives. And the best you can say against him is that he has personal moral deficiencies?

Of course you want me to stop mention of abortion. In light of abortions, your "moral deficiencies" argument seems trite.

Answer this question. Is being for abortion, the killing of babies, an evil? If yes, then how can you be for someone who is evil, such as Biden, to beat Trump who only has moral deficiencies? If no, then I cannot believe that you under God's grace. You are quick to judge someone with moral deficiencies but you refuse to the tearing of an unborn baby out its mother's womb. You strain the gnat but swallow the camel.
 
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Hi packerman,

Thanks for your response:
I disagree. You hate Trump. You cannot hate Trump and hate abortion since Trump has been one of the most successful presidents in limiting abortions. Look at the disgusting pictures of aborted babies. Click on this.

Statements such as this show just how unintelligent you really are. I don't hate anyone. I certainly don't like the kind of person that Donald Trump is and whether he's for or against any of your particular agendas, I still don't like the man. To make a statement like, "You can't hate Trump and hate abortion", is ludicrous. Personally, after reading this post, I think you need to get a check on reality. You are so obviously swinging at your own perceived windmills and you'd best be careful that you don't lose your balance and fall off of that horse you're on. You might seriously hurt yourself.

The anger and meanness in your post could be cut with a knife.

God bless,
In Christ, ted
 
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Hi packerman,

Thanks for your response:

Thanks for my response? By what follows, your politeness here is phony.


Statements such as this show just how unintelligent you really are.

I have a Masters of Divinity. I was a Baptist minister for three years. And yet you judge me to be unintelligent?

I don't hate anyone. I certainly don't like the kind of person that Donald Trump is and whether he's for or against any of your particular agendas, I still don't like the man. To make a statement like, "You can't hate Trump and hate abortion", is ludicrous.

This reminds me of Nancy Pelosi getting angry when some asked her why she hated Trump. How dare anyone accuse such a fine Christian like Pelosi of hatred!

Personally, after reading this post, I think you need to get a check on reality. You are so obviously swinging at your own perceived windmills and you'd best be careful that you don't lose your balance and fall off of that horse you're on. You might seriously hurt yourself.

That is always a possibility. That is why we must work out our salvation with fear and trembling (Philippians 2:12).

But I will have to give an accounting to my Lord on Judgment Day. I am not willing to go to hell because I did not warn you of the gravity of your situation. So I need to show you tough love.

The anger and meanness in your post could be cut with a knife.

It is imperative that I am stern with you as Jesus was stern with the Pharisees and Paul was stern with the Judaizers. You seem to avoid the main question: Do you see abortion as murder? You refuse to answer this because deep down you know the answer, especially since you were provided pictures of aborted fetuses. They have fingers, toes, faces. They are babies. And Trump is trying the stop the baby killers. And you are against Trump because of his personal deficiencies? I am being hard on you because you have a false sense of security of your salvation. You think you can be saved and support politicians who want to continue these murders of babies.

Look at the prophets in the Old Testament. They used "anger and meanness" that could be "cut with a knife" against the people of Israel because they were killing their children as sacrifices to the false god Moloch. And you see nothing wrong with killing of babies for the god of convenience. If you did see it as murder, you would say so by now.

If you were an atheist my words to you would be much softer. But you call yourself a Christian! Don't think that everything is OK now that you "accepted Christ as Savior". Jesus said many who had said "Lord, Lord" will not be allowed into heaven, but only they who do the will of His Father. Killing babies goes against the will of the Father (Matthew 7:21-23). Thou shalt not kill! I urge you to repent before it is too late! Woe to those who say evil is good (Isaiah 5:20). Here I use the Bible to rebuke you. Are you going to accuse the Bible of "anger and meanness"? Is Jesus being so mean that you can cut it with a knife? Perhaps! Jesus said that He came not to give peace but a sword! Those who are cast into hell will consider Him to be mean. Please do not misunderstand me. I am not saying you are going to hell. But it sure isn't a good sign that you cannot see that abortion is murder and you are actively supporting those who want the holocaust to continue.

No matter what you think, I do not hate you. My words were written in love. I hope to see you in glory. But it is up to you. I will pray for you.
 
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