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Like the prophets who came before Him, Jesus spoke ‘early and often’ to the people of Jerusalem. At times He addressed a particular class of men, ‘scribes and Pharisees’.
However, He also addressed all the people of Jerusalem using the expression “This Generation”.
Jesus speaks to the generation that would not pass away until
His prophecy of destruction for the Temple and Jerusalem was fulfilled.

Luke 7:31-35. And the Lord said, “To what then shall I liken the men of this generation, and what are they like? They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling to one another, saying: ‘We played the flute for you, And you did not dance; We mourned for you, And you did not weep.’
For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look, a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ But wisdom is justified by all her children.”

Luke 11:29 And while the crowds were thickly gathered together, He began to say, “This is an evil generation. It seeks a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah the prophet. 30 For as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so also the Son of Man will be to this generation. 31 The queen of the South will rise up in judgment with the men of this generation and condemn them, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here. 32 The men of Nineveh will rise up in judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here.

Luke 11:49 Therefore the wisdom of God also said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and persecute,’ 50 that the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation, 51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. Yes, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation.

Luke 17:22. Then He said to the disciples, The days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. 23 And they will say to you, ‘Look here!’ or ‘Look there!’ Do not go after them or follow them. 24 For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day. 25 But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.

Do you not understand the judgment that generation endured? ALL THE BLOOD of the prophets, from Abel!

Isaiah 40:1“Comfort, yes, comfort My people!”
Says your God.
2“Speak comfort to Jerusalem, and cry out to her,
That her warfare is ended,
That her iniquity is pardoned;
For she has received from the Lord’s hand
Double for all her sins.”
 
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Like the prophets who came before Him, Jesus spoke ‘early and often’ to the people of Jerusalem. At times He addressed a particular class of men, ‘scribes and Pharisees’.
However, He also addressed all the people of Jerusalem using the expression “This Generation”.
Jesus speaks to the generation that would not pass away until
His prophecy of destruction for the Temple and Jerusalem was fulfilled.

Luke 7:31-35. And the Lord said, “To what then shall I liken the men of this generation, and what are they like? They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling to one another, saying: ‘We played the flute for you, And you did not dance; We mourned for you, And you did not weep.’
For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look, a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ But wisdom is justified by all her children.”

Luke 11:29 And while the crowds were thickly gathered together, He began to say, “This is an evil generation. It seeks a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah the prophet. 30 For as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so also the Son of Man will be to this generation. 31 The queen of the South will rise up in judgment with the men of this generation and condemn them, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here. 32 The men of Nineveh will rise up in judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here.

Luke 11:49 Therefore the wisdom of God also said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they will kill and persecute,’ 50 that the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation, 51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. Yes, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation.

Luke 17:22. Then He said to the disciples, The days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. 23 And they will say to you, ‘Look here!’ or ‘Look there!’ Do not go after them or follow them. 24 For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day. 25 But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.

Do you not understand the judgment that generation endured? ALL THE BLOOD of the prophets, from Abel!

Isaiah 40:1“Comfort, yes, comfort My people!”
Says your God.
2“Speak comfort to Jerusalem, and cry out to her,
That her warfare is ended,
That her iniquity is pardoned;
For she has received from the Lord’s hand
Double for all her sins.”

If we read what Flavius wrote about what happened, we know the judgement was horrible, but deserved. They killed all the prophets and even the Son of God.

There was no general resurrection and the judgement of nations, though.
 
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If we read what Flavius wrote about what happened, we know the judgement was horrible, but deserved. They killed all the prophets and even the Son of God.

There was no general resurrection and the judgement of nations, though.
Matthew 24:29. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.
Is it because of the word "immediately" after that there seems to be a belief that Israel must suffer tribulation yet again before the judgment? For example, I have heard taught that "the Church" will be raptured, as if what has been grafted into the olive tree will be ungrafted and separated, so that God can once again "deal with Israel". It was taught that this would be the time of Jacob's trouble.
Jeremiah 30:7. Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
This cannot be right, and I am wondering if this is a common belief?
eutheos translated immediately means level, a direct path, and can imply a direct sequence, with or without a time element. So let's say hypothetically, what the Lord is saying "All the blood...upon this
generation
, completes God's judgment upon Israel and Jerusalem. There is no further judgment from that point, until the judgments on the entire world in Revelation. In other words, all the tribulations and persecutions of the Jews, right up to the recent shooting attacks on synagogues, none of that can be attributed to an action by God, but at the hands of man. So if Jerusalem and Israel was held accountable for all the blood of the prophets, who will be held accountable for all of the suffering of the Jews since?

Romans 11:30-32. For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy. For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.
So God's intentions were for Israel to obtain mercy and comfort at the hands of the world that Jesus died for, "the sins of the entire world", because "God so loved the world". This is a term of the covenant that we have entered. Where the world has failed, they will have the same accountability that Israel was held up to for not keeping covenant with God, and the murder of His prophets. Yet we have a doctrine, that the Jews are needed to return to Israel, rebuilt a Temple, restore sacrifices, to have another abomination and time of tribulation, so that judgment can come "immediately" after this time of tribulation. Just to fit a wrongful interpretation of the "Olivet discourse", which must be supported by prophecies that were already fulfilled when the second Temple was destroyed, and Israel paying double for all their sins. Even the Jews themselves have bought into it. And no wonder, they have accepted the "suffering servant" role, but Yeshua already took that title from them, and they should stop listening to the traditions of men, especially Gentiles, and hear this word of Truth. The Gospel from the Gentile to the Jew is intended to be comfort...
Isaiah 40. “Comfort, yes, comfort My people!” Says your God.
2 “Speak comfort to Jerusalem, and cry out to her,
That her warfare is ended,
That her iniquity is pardoned;
For she has received from the Lord’s hand
Double for all her sins.”
 
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The event that generation suffered was the "days of vengeance", including the destruction of Jerusalem & the temple.

However, a much-greater punishment came upon the Jews for their rejection & murder of Jesus. That punishment began a coupla generations later in 135-136 AD when the Romans under Hadrian booted the Jews from their land. From then on, the Jews were hated & persecuted wherever they went, but God still preserved them as a distinct people.

This punishment lasted for some 1800 years, culminating in the nazi holocaust. After that, God bgan to lift their punishment.
 
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