What are some reasons to support Trump?

Has Donald Trump been good for America?

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Donald Trump has kept his campaign promises. He is far from being a conman.

Oh really? Tell me about the massive infrastructure program he promised. Tell me about the wall that Mexico was going to pay for. Oh no you can’t, because he was just saying whatever made people give him their votes.
 
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I tracked the statements he made in a 2016 debate, if a number was a bit out the media called it 'a lie' but when Hillary was saying things contrary to other things she had said she had simply 'updated her opinion'.

Given that she had said basically - sometimes I say one thing in public and another thing in private - she could have been lying all the time she was on TV and it certainly looked like she was just repeating what was said to her though the earpiece

Hillary was certainly dishonest plenty of times, but even she couldn’t have dreamt of 16,000 lies in 3 years. That takes real commitment!
 
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Oh really? Tell me about the massive infrastructure program he promised. Tell me about the wall that Mexico was going to pay for. Oh no you can’t, because he was just saying whatever made people give him their votes.

Here is a news link showing that construction on the wall along the US-Mexican border is still going strong despite the coronavirus pandemic: Crews still hard at work on Trump’s border wall, despite stay-home orders and coronavirus pandemic

Now are you going to cite any of your sources? Or will you continue asserting your opinion as if it were fact, failing to back up any of your claims?
 
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Why should I bother? It’s literally like talking to a brick wall trying to get through to a Trump supporter. I can point to literally hundreds of barefaced lies those people have told and show you links proving they were lies, and you’ll just go ‘well that’s just lamestream media lies’. You have your new god and nothing will make you change your mind, and frankly I have better things to do.
The very same thing can be said about those of you who despise Trump. All you have are the lies and half truths of the lame stream media. No zero, none credible, verifiable evidence.
 
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Until the advent of COVID the economy has indeed been doing well. In spite of his best efforts Trump had not yet been able to derail the recovery that Obama set in motion. It is completely derailed now and it is being very poorly handled by the White House and the family compact.

Why are you attributing the success stemming from the Trump presidency to Obama? That's a dubious claim, at best. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary sources. Please cite.
 
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Being "good for America" means more than financial growth.

- The poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans hit new lows in 2018.
This was easy to verify. It's true that the poverty rate for both groups is historically low replacing the historically low rate at the end of 2016. So the rate has continued to go down under the Trump administration and that's a good thing.
 
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Trump doesn’t lie. He speaks truthfully, saying exactly what is on his mind. He’s a “tell it like it is” sort of person. If anything, Trump is too honest.

Can you really say that with a straight face?
 
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I'm not partisan, I wanted Andrew Yang for President, then I was left in a quandary because neither President Trump nor J Biden was what I wanted, but Biden is clearly senile.

In the end it is going to come down to which is better, Biden's VP or Donald T, but partly with reference to the achievements listed in the OP I'm not worried I might have no one to vote for.

I'd like to be able to choose between two viable alternatives so I hope Biden gets a good VP, but if he doesn't I'll be fairly happy with Donald.
 
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Why are you attributing the success stemming from the Trump presidency to Obama? That's a dubious claim, at best. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary sources. Please cite.

Or you could just glance at an economics chart showing growth by year, but hey why bother when you can just believe anything that King Donald tells you instead right? Hey the guy is an adulterer with multiple bankruptcies and a terrible reality TV career along with fraudulent charities and a crooked ‘university’ to his name, why wouldn’t you believe everything he says..
 
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Why are you attributing the success stemming from the Trump presidency to Obama? That's a dubious claim, at best. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary sources. Please cite.

My statement was neither dubious nor extraordinary. Just look at the economic growth since 2008. It has been steady and has showen no real change from 2016 till now.
 
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Or you could just glance at an economics chart showing growth by year, but hey why bother when you can just believe anything that King Donald tells you instead right? Hey the guy is an adulterer with multiple bankruptcies and a terrible reality TV career along with fraudulent charities and a crooked ‘university’ to his name, why wouldn’t you believe everything he says..

Sounds like you would rather smear Donald Trump’s imperfections of character instead of debate the facts.
 
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The public plus Trump would be an improvement.

Instead of being so adversorial it would be good if the public would reach an agreement on what they want and provide a bit of encouragement, to whom ever we get as President.
 
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Sounds like you would rather smear Donald Trump’s imperfections of character instead of debate the facts.

Sounds like you’d rather just pretend a conman never did any of the intensively documented things that he actually did, rather than accept that your hero isn’t a trustworthy or positive person.

Feel free to point out which of the things I accused him of are ‘smears’ btw.
 
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Why are you attributing the success stemming from the Trump presidency to Obama? That's a dubious claim, at best. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary sources. Please cite.
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Unemployment started to decline in 2010 during the middle of Obama's first term. The decline continued under Trump.
 
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Sounds like you’d rather just pretend a conman never did any of the intensively documented things that he actually did, rather than accept that your hero isn’t a trustworthy or positive person.

Feel free to point out which of the things I accused him of are ‘smears’ btw.

This thread isn’t about Donald Trump’s past adulteries or failed marriages. The subject we’re talking about is: why support Trump and his achievements. If you want to make a new thread talking about Trump’s character flaws, then please do so. But please keep unrelated posts off this topic.
 
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President Trump has been the best President for America since President Reagan. God bless President Trump!
That's what his ego says, but is that why he has increased the national debt to $24 trillion and increased the budget deficit to $1.9 trillion and increased the DEBT to GDP ratio from ~105% to 109.38% U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

And is that why the national debt will be over $33 trillion in 2024 and the budget deficit will be $2.6 trillion and the DEBT to GDP ratio will be ~140%? U.S. National Debt Clock 2024 Budgets Compared
 
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Growth in manufacturing is a whole different story from growth in employment in health insurance.


Don't forget to look at the CAB when you look at the National Debt

Even almost standing still is excellent for 2020, I was only predicting an employment crisis in 2022, the economy itself is known to be due for a big hit in 2020
 
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Oh really? Tell me about the massive infrastructure program he promised. Tell me about the wall that Mexico was going to pay for. Oh no you can’t, because he was just saying whatever made people give him their votes.

Mexican troops on our border are now up to 15,000.

Trump couldn't get them to pay for the wall so he threatened tariffs if they didn't take care of border situation.

Mexico is more than happy to police the border rather than pay millions in tariffs.

Trump said they would pay one way or another, doesn't matter to him.
 
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Mexican troops on our border are now up to 15,000.

Trump couldn't get them to pay for the wall so he threatened tariffs if they didn't take care of border situation.

Mexico is more than happy to police the border rather than pay millions in tariffs.

Trump said they would pay one way or another, doesn't matter to him.

So they didn’t pay for a wall then?
 
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