What to do about people who don't listen about Social Distancing

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I just start coughing. People back up without saying a word

But you could just say, "excuse me, would you mind backing up, keeping the 6 foot distance?" Sometimes, people forget.

Most people here in the Bay are really conscious about it
Keep your droplets to yourself! :eek:
 
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She has an amazing sense of humor, it’s her way to make people smile.
You know, that’s what we need. People adding some humor to a stressful situation. Going to the store is high anxiety for a lot of people these days.
 
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@nonaeroterraqueous Well, I am hoping you are wrong about me getting exposed. That was definitely not a nice thing to say to someone who has anxiety. But you could be right, so I won't argue with you about that. Like someone @ZNP said, I am going to treat everyday as though I have been exposed. I am going to buy medicine, like cough syrup, aspirin, and other stuff. I will also make sure I have enough fluids.

But you have to realize that, even though you are right it may not always be good enough, it is still safer then not. Do you know why that they say keep a distance? It is based on research and evidence that they show that germs travel about six feet. That is why they say that keep six feet away from people. I am going to trust the scientist on this one. However, sometimes germs can travel 27 feet, and they can sometimes linger in the air for long periods of time, like 3 hrs. So, you are right, I could still be exposed, even if I am not next to that person. So, you are right, I can still be exposed. But I am still going to take precautions. I will still speak up, but politely, and ask people to not get close to me. Whether they listen or not is up to them. I am still going to cover my mouth up and nose, even though I read it won't do much good in stopping yourself from getting sick, but it will stop others from getting your germs. We don't just stay home for our sake, we stay home for other people's sake. But I don't want to be a hypocrite, so I will admit, I am still doing it for myself. I have been very angry with Americans right now during this whole ordeal. News reports are reporting about Americans who don't want to practice social distancing. And whether you see it or not, there is evidence that social distancing works. Places have seen a decline. Well, maybe not because of social distancing but because people chose to stay home.

Italy’s Coronavirus Cases Beginning to Decline After Two-Week Lockdown

In Italy everyone who does go out because of work and other things, they cover themselves up. This does help a lot. It doesn't help the person wearing the mask, but if two people wear the masks or cloths, they are both helping each other out. And if we all did this and continued to wash our hands and stayed at home, we would probably see a decline. But that is an opinion based on what I have read. So, I could be wrong. But I still believe that people should at least try.

As far as my trust in God goes, I don't agree with you, for that is not the issue. Putting your trust in God doesn't mean we should act like there is no danger. Proverbs 27:12 says "The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty." If Christians are gonna talk about putting your faith in God, while acting stupid in the midst of a crisis, that limits their ability to preach the gospel, right? Because people will see how foolish they are acting. Now, I am not mister holy person. In fact, I have always questioned my Christianity. And if I have claimed to be a Christian and talked to that man with anger, that would also would misrepresent Christ. I will admit, I am using this verse to defend myself. It is true. I have a problem with trusting God. But don't tell me to trust in God, while acting foolish. That is like saying, "It's okay. Jump out of the airplane without a parachute. God will save you. Trust him."
 
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@nonaeroterraqueous Well, I am hoping you are wrong about me getting exposed. That was definitely not a nice thing to say to someone who has anxiety. But you could be right, so I won't argue with you about that. Like someone @ZNP said, I am going to treat everyday as though I have been exposed. I am going to buy medicine, like cough syrup, aspirin, and other stuff. I will also make sure I have enough fluids.

I would discourage using something to bring down the fever unless the fever is over 103. A fever of 102 can keep the virus from replicating giving your body a chance to build up immunity.
 
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@nonaeroterraqueous Well, I am hoping you are wrong about me getting exposed. That was definitely not a nice thing to say to someone who has anxiety. But you could be right, so I won't argue with you about that. Like someone @ZNP said, I am going to treat everyday as though I have been exposed. I am going to buy medicine, like cough syrup, aspirin, and other stuff. I will also make sure I have enough fluids.

But you have to realize that, even though you are right it may not always be good enough, it is still safer then not. Do you know why that they say keep a distance? It is based on research and evidence that they show that germs travel about six feet. That is why they say that keep six feet away from people. I am going to trust the scientist on this one. However, sometimes germs can travel 27 feet, and they can sometimes linger in the air for long periods of time, like 3 hrs. So, you are right, I could still be exposed, even if I am not next to that person. So, you are right, I can still be exposed. But I am still going to take precautions. I will still speak up, but politely, and ask people to not get close to me. Whether they listen or not is up to them. I am still going to cover my mouth up and nose, even though I read it won't do much good in stopping yourself from getting sick, but it will stop others from getting your germs. We don't just stay home for our sake, we stay home for other people's sake. But I don't want to be a hypocrite, so I will admit, I am still doing it for myself. I have been very angry with Americans right now during this whole ordeal. News reports are reporting about Americans who don't want to practice social distancing. And whether you see it or not, there is evidence that social distancing works. Places have seen a decline. Well, maybe not because of social distancing but because people chose to stay home.

Italy’s Coronavirus Cases Beginning to Decline After Two-Week Lockdown

In Italy everyone who does go out because of work and other things, they cover themselves up. This does help a lot. It doesn't help the person wearing the mask, but if two people wear the masks or cloths, they are both helping each other out. And if we all did this and continued to wash our hands and stayed at home, we would probably see a decline. But that is an opinion based on what I have read. So, I could be wrong. But I still believe that people should at least try.

As far as my trust in God goes, I don't agree with you, for that is not the issue. Putting your trust in God doesn't mean we should act like there is no danger. Proverbs 27:12 says "The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty." If Christians are gonna talk about putting your faith in God, while acting stupid in the midst of a crisis, that limits their ability to preach the gospel, right? Because people will see how foolish they are acting. Now, I am not mister holy person. In fact, I have always questioned my Christianity. And if I have claimed to be a Christian and talked to that man with anger, that would also would misrepresent Christ. I will admit, I am using this verse to defend myself. It is true. I have a problem with trusting God. But don't tell me to trust in God, while acting foolish. That is like saying, "It's okay. Jump out of the airplane without a parachute. God will save you. Trust him."
You may have already had it and never known it, especially being a younger guy. There are many carriers who never knew they were sick, others who thought they had a cold or mild flu. Not all cases end up hospitalized and even less dead. Most of the severe cases and deaths have been in older folks with complication or compromised health to begin with. So in your shoes I think I'd eat healthy, maybe take a zink supplement and hang my hat on the idea that if I get it then mostly likely it won't be deadly anyway. Meanwhile pray protection over yourself and dwelling place is always a good idea. Lay it all in Jesus' capable hands to lift away your anxiety and to that I say Amen ( been there done that myself) ! By the way, fear and anxiety are not of the Lord. If we rest in the idea that the fear is not of Him then we have to wonder who it is of. But what we do know is He overcame fear at the cross even unto death. 2 Timothy 1:7 comes to mind right now. Psalm 91 is a good read right now.
 
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Fox News is the biggest right wing propaganda machine out there. They were saying that the virus was nothing but a democratic hoax as an echo of their beloved Trump butt kissing a few weeks ago and I am still reading headlines on their site that are framing democrats as somehow responsible for the Trump administration's blatant ignorace and slow reaction of the coronavirus.

This thread is about social distancing.
 
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IDK --- I never asked. Does it matter? Is it a salvation issue?
The coverage on Fox News has been markedly different, and people who watch a lot of it also heard a lot of conservative commentators, and Donald Trump, in the beginning downplaying the virus. You saw it here too. Even now, Trump himself is not practicing social distancing. In these forums, you can see who is watching a lot of Fox News, as they are very focused on the Fox News talking points.
 
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I live in a city that does not deliver groceries. We can pick them up at Walmart with our Walmart app. But because so many people use the app during this time, sometimes they can't accommodate us. So, I have to go to the store. But so many people in the store ignore social distancing. One man got irritated at me because I was keeping my distance from the lady checking out her groceries. He asked if I could move up so he could put his basket on the belt. I did move up, but I stepped out of line so I wouldn't be close to the woman checking out. But he decided to squeeze by me getting really close to me to get something. I left very angry with him. People in my city are not taking this seriously. I get I don't have the right to be angry with people that ignore the governors advice about staying home from the parks, which a lot of people in my city are ignoring. And I am not talking about people who work, for they are can't help that, and of course we wouldn't be able to buy groceries. But I also can't tell them what to do. But I am angry at those who don't practice social distancing. I was so mad that I almost made a scene at the store. I told the cashier, people are [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ing me off, they are not practicing social distancing; and I said it out loud in front of the man. But he did not respond to it, for he probably did not care.

This isn't the only time people get close. But I am using this one incident as an example.

The question is what do I do about this? How do I react to people that get irritated at me because I am keeping a distance from the person checking out, and they want to put their stuff on the belt? How do I react to people that don't practice social distancing?
As I believe, no true Christian wants to judge. That is the divine providence of God The Father Almighty. Provided all Christians follow that specific practice, it should alleviate any urges you might otherwise suddenly feel compelled to act on. I very recently stood in line with the over 65 crowd beginning at 7:00 am. I showed up at 7:01 am and had to stand for about 45 minutes before being permitted to enter the grocery. Something nice that you might consider doing is when you have put in the time waiting in line, call a friend and offer to purchase something they may need thus saving your neighbor time. The ladies in line with me were somewhat irritating but that is probably more about me and my shortcomings than they. Have you ever found out the size of the virus. I wonder if many of the dust masks being worn for protection are fine enough to trap the virus.
 
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How do I react to people that don't practice social distancing?
You should ignore the restrictions about distance, and face touching, and touching others, and punch them right in the nose.



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I live in a city that does not deliver groceries. We can pick them up at Walmart with our Walmart app. But because so many people use the app during this time, sometimes they can't accommodate us. So, I have to go to the store. But so many people in the store ignore social distancing. One man got irritated at me because I was keeping my distance from the lady checking out her groceries. He asked if I could move up so he could put his basket on the belt. I did move up, but I stepped out of line so I wouldn't be close to the woman checking out. But he decided to squeeze by me getting really close to me to get something. I left very angry with him. People in my city are not taking this seriously. I get I don't have the right to be angry with people that ignore the governors advice about staying home from the parks, which a lot of people in my city are ignoring. And I am not talking about people who work, for they are can't help that, and of course we wouldn't be able to buy groceries. But I also can't tell them what to do. But I am angry at those who don't practice social distancing. I was so mad that I almost made a scene at the store. I told the cashier, people are [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ing me off, they are not practicing social distancing; and I said it out loud in front of the man. But he did not respond to it, for he probably did not care.

This isn't the only time people get close. But I am using this one incident as an example.

The question is what do I do about this? How do I react to people that get irritated at me because I am keeping a distance from the person checking out, and they want to put their stuff on the belt? How do I react to people that don't practice social distancing?
People should not wear a mask if you are not infected... It does nothing and uses a mask that someone who needs it.. will never have.. It's a waste.

People wearing masks should never take them off to talk on the phone, smoke or talk.. You should not wear gloves and touch your face, your phone, your mask...

In the end.. everyone will come in contact with this... It's inevitable.

So you get groceries, wearing gloves.. Who touched that soup can before you? How many? Do you put it in your cupboard or spray it with Lysol first? Who touched the gas pump handle, the door handle.. The bag you carry your groceries home in. The bag your prescription drugs came in?

Yes... wash your hands with soap that lathers.. it is better than the sanitizer that needs to stay on for 10 minutes to kill this thing.. Don't touch your face... Really? just try that for 30 minutes.. YOU CAN'T.

So, in the end, everyone comes in contact with it. Is it in your town? Village? Then you cannot stop it.

You are at the mercy of the hygiene of the worst and most unclean person that you have the pleasure of living near that uses the same stores and gas pump as you do..

Now that all the borders are closed, the snow birds are home.. this will take about 28 days (the longest incubation time)from the last bit of herding from vacation land to homeland..... and then die out... How many will get real sick and die.. that is up in the air. But.. they will.

Many don't even get the symptoms.. they go around spreading it everywhere... innocently.. Some have mild symptoms and think nothing of it. Think that there is anyone in your town like that? Of course there is.

Flatten the curve.. is medical and media speak for "stretch it out so we aren't over run". Either way .. its 100,000 people in two weeks or 100,000 people in two months. That's a flat curve.


This battle was lost when the whole thing went public and the governments didn't shut down China's borders from the outside..

Even then.. it was too late as we heard about it months after it was already running wild.
 
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Gods protection is a wonderful thing, we were talking about this yesterday here at home. But it doesn't give us a license to act stupid either. If a train is coming at you and you're on the tracks I'd still suggest you move off the tracks. In fact it may be God enticing you to do so if you're dumb enough to think you can just stand there and not get killed.
I'm not talking about God's protection, necessarily. God has determined that every single one of us must die (from one thing or another). Yet, in spite of that, you still need to trust him. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Like I said, everyone will be exposed. This train will hit everyone. It's just a question of timing, and attempting to "flatten the curve," as they call. it. I'm not even suggesting in this thread that we not keep our distance. What I am suggesting, however, is that we need not get freaked out about it and lose our tempers at people over it. When someone stands too closely, he does not make the difference between you getting exposed eventually, or not getting exposed eventually. He doesn't make much difference in whether you, personally, die from it. It's just that the behavior, across the population, as a whole, may lead to more loss of life, assuming that we can flatten the curve by acting differently.

At this point in the epidemic, in most of the United States, catching the disease now is not worse than catching it later, because the hospitals are not overloaded, yet, but they may be later. That person who violates your space is not killing you, so stop acting like he is.
 
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I'm not talking about God's protection, necessarily. God has determined that every single one of us must die (from one thing or another). Yet, in spite of that, you still need to trust him. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Like I said, everyone will be exposed. This train will hit everyone. It's just a question of timing, and attempting to "flatten the curve," as they call. it. I'm not even suggesting in this thread that we not keep our distance. What I am suggesting, however, is that we need not get freaked out about it and lose our tempers at people over it. When someone stands too closely, he does not make the difference between you getting exposed eventually, or not getting exposed eventually. He doesn't make much difference in whether you, personally, die from it. It's just that the behavior, across the population, as a whole, may lead to more loss of life, assuming that we can flatten the curve by acting differently.

At this point in the epidemic, in most of the United States, catching the disease now is not worse than catching it later, because the hospitals are not overloaded, yet, but they may be later. That person who violates your space is not killing you, so stop acting like he is.

I apologize for my outburst. It was not very Christian of me, even though I have a hard time calling myself a Christian. But I get what you are saying.
 
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People should not wear a mask if you are not infected... It does nothing and uses a mask that someone who needs it.. will never have.. It's a waste.

People wearing masks should never take them off to talk on the phone, smoke or talk.. You should not wear gloves and touch your face, your phone, your mask...

In the end.. everyone will come in contact with this... It's inevitable.

So you get groceries, wearing gloves.. Who touched that soup can before you? How many? Do you put it in your cupboard or spray it with Lysol first? Who touched the gas pump handle, the door handle.. The bag you carry your groceries home in. The bag your prescription drugs came in?

Yes... wash your hands with soap that lathers.. it is better than the sanitizer that needs to stay on for 10 minutes to kill this thing.. Don't touch your face... Really? just try that for 30 minutes.. YOU CAN'T.

So, in the end, everyone comes in contact with it. Is it in your town? Village? Then you cannot stop it.

You are at the mercy of the hygiene of the worst and most unclean person that you have the pleasure of living near that uses the same stores and gas pump as you do..

Now that all the borders are closed, the snow birds are home.. this will take about 28 days (the longest incubation time)from the last bit of herding from vacation land to homeland..... and then die out... How many will get real sick and die.. that is up in the air. But.. they will.

Many don't even get the symptoms.. they go around spreading it everywhere... innocently.. Some have mild symptoms and think nothing of it. Think that there is anyone in your town like that? Of course there is.

Flatten the curve.. is medical and media speak for "stretch it out so we aren't over run". Either way .. its 100,000 people in two weeks or 100,000 people in two months. That's a flat curve.


This battle was lost when the whole thing went public and the governments didn't shut down China's borders from the outside..

Even then.. it was too late as we heard about it months after it was already running wild.

I don't wear a mask. I wear cloth over my face to protect people from me. But I do hope it does some good in protecting me. But even if it doesn't I will still wear one just in case I was exposed. I already did some research.

Again, I hope you are wrong about me being exposed. But you could be right. But I hope you are not. But I don't think it is a waste if you are trying to protect others from you. If we all did that, we may slow it down.
 
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I don't wear a mask. I wear cloth over my face to protect people from me. But I do hope it does some good in protecting me. But even if it doesn't I will still wear one just in case I was exposed. I already did some research.

Again, I hope you are wrong about me being exposed. But you could be right. But I hope you are not. But I don't think it is a waste if you are trying to protect others from you. If we all did that, we may slow it down.
I watched a presentation by a medical professional.. She said don't waste a mask if you're not infected. It does nothing.

 
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I watched a presentation by a medical professional.. She said don't waste a mask if you're not infected. It does nothing.


I know this. I have watched these people too.

But even if it doesn't do anything for me, it will do something for someone else. Masks are designed to keep germs in, and not design to keep germs out. But I don't wear a mask, I wear a piece of clothe, which goes around my face, and my scarf. I feel safe doing that. So, I will continue. But I am not arguing with you because I am not a medical professional. So, I don't know enough to argue. But it still makes me feel safe. So, I am still going to do it.

However, I did buy a mask with plastic that goes over the whole entire face. But it won't be here until the end of May or early June. But I have decided until then, I will just buy food at the gas station at 6 in the morning. It is way more expensive and no one is never there. They even have a glass that separate us from the cashier. And I will continue to practice hand washing and not touching my face. And wearing my own mask keeps me from touching my face anyways.

So, the point is, I realize what they have said. I have done some research as well. But I am still going to do so, for the reasons I said. It just makes me feel safe.
 
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This is an advice thread. .

Exactly.
"Don't watch Fox News" and "stay away from Fox News viewers in public" seems to be excellent advice if you want to employ every possible tool to minimize your risk of both acquiring and spreading COVID19 Infection.
 
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