Trump told Pence not to call governors who aren’t ‘appreciative’
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And Trumps Stimulus bill? Does that count? Do people not losing their Jobs and companies not going under count? Preventing job loss is s good as creating Jobs. Funny you missed those things, and probably much more....you wouldn't be prejudiced...would you?
I don’t know why you thought I’d missed his stimulus bill when I’d already acknowledged that his tax cuts improved unemployment. I’m sure this new stimulus will help, but seeing as how he only signed it two days ago, it’s hard to credit it yet for anything aside from perhaps some boost in stock futures.
Off the top of my head, I don’t know and I’m not going to bother looking it up right now because it’s not really germane to this discussion. That said, the WPA was massive; Reagan’s military expansion was also big and fed my family for a couple decades; and that Obama link in my previous post was to the CBO’s analysis of his stimulus and IIRC, they said it improved unemployment by something like 1-4%.
ETA: I don’t know what game you think I’m playing, but I’m not playing it. For the purposes of this discussion, as far as I’m concerned, something signed by Trump gets credited to Trump regardless of where the bill originated.
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I feel the same about many of the arguments in this thread, but that's what happens when there is no other defense for a certain side of this.
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What was relevant to this conversation is that it is ridiculous to expect people to look up some of what you require as well, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen....glad you finally get that.
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Hey I'm psyched to see Trump implementing socialism, but I'm glad to see you are also forTrump's new socialism! Keep the fight, comrade!And Trumps Stimulus bill? Does that count? Do people not losing their Jobs and companies not going under count? Preventing job loss is s good as creating Jobs. Funny you missed those things, and probably much more....you wouldn't be prejudiced...would you?
How many actual Jobs did those you mention create, and something to back your answer up as well, please?
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Yes, it is my opinion that the Christian Right opposes abortion, "out" LGBTs, gun control and asylum for Central American refugees--and expects the Trump administration to assist them in their opposition.
What's your opinion?
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Given that the president’s own senators said that yes he did it, but that in their partisan opinion blackmailing a foreign leader for your own personal benefit isn’t impeachable in an election year, the eventual verdict is irrelevant. Your system of checks and balances was clearly shown to be a nonsense.
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Kudos to Mnuchin -- he knew he had to throw his boss a bone to get him to sign.
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What you think or don't think is irrelevant to the discussion.
The government, of course -- The Dem controlled Congress managed to pass it over the Republican objections, and Obama did the right thing by signing it.
I certainly hope so, but I'm going to reserve judgement pending evidence.
I'll never understand why Donald's devoted must martyr him to make him worthy of their veneration... nor am I likely to ever care.
Although I suspect that it's related to the similar need to demonize Nancy Pelosi, who is somehow "worse" than the government that she, too is a duly elected representative of.
Duality, I suppose... every God needs a Devil...
Which is why most people give the credit to more than just Donald. Hence, "the government's" stimulus, as I said.
Perhaps from this point on, you will as well.
Well, I only consider my own time to be of value; the rest, by definition, cannot be "wasted."
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Well, the Party of Trump (TOP) would call George W. Bush “a person who acts like they are the members of a Party but they really aren’t” or some other term that was recently added to the banned word list here on CF.
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You claimed that Trump “fixed the jobless rate.” I asked you what he did to do that. Contrary to what you appear to believe of me, I have looked that up on a number of occasions and have yet to be able to find anything outside of the aforementioned tax cuts. Personally, I don’t believe he has done anything other than that, but I’m always open to being corrected, so any time I see anybody make claims, as you did, about his job-creation performance, I ask them what, specifically, they’re talking about. At this point, I probably need both hands to count the number of times I’ve tried to have this exact conversation and so far, TrumpFans are batting zero. Some give vague answers and links to regulations that have allegedly been cut - all of which are extraordinarily weak and fall apart under slightest bit of scrutiny; while others, like you thus far, don’t even go that far. Instead, they hem and haw and give non-answers, acting like it’s my responsibility to hunt for answers that, in all likelihood, don’t exist, like I’m Sir Walter Raleigh searching for El Dorado or something.
You said you could provide links and/or paragraphs; so, have at it. What am I missing about Trump’s performance on job growth?
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The governor of Michigan just said but they have not received anything from the federal government since March 22nd and that providing businesses have been sending things to the federal government instead of to her state
I fear did President Trump's petty narcissism has just turned into criminally negligent homicide.
I fear did President Trump's petty narcissism has just turned into criminally negligent homicide.
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One should be careful about making such statements. The President is single-handedly fighting the COVID 19 and the disloyal. His burdens are great. His heart is heavy. His sleep fitful.
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How can I be for it if I don't know what his socialism is? So, at this point your comment is completely untrue, but nothing new about that.
Now explain Trumps socialism in detail, please, and lets be sure it's not just made up as well.
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Yes, it is my opinion that the Christian Right opposes abortion, "out" LGBTs, gun control and asylum for Central American refugees--and expects the Trump administration to assist them in their opposition.
I'm leaning towards your opinion there.
What's your opinion?
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That's one way out of it. lol!
You do realize what people think can also be a fact, and the facts of what Pelosi was doing was splattered all over the news (oddball funny stuff). But if you want to step away from that one, guess I'll step away from your other points, as there would be no point in answering to them, if you are only going to make up excuses not to comment.
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You might not know what it is, or you might want to pretend to not know what it is, but the fact is that Trump is redistributing wealth as response to the pandemic, and that is socialism, and you were praising it. Calling it a 'stimulus' doesn't change the fact that it's socialism. And the fact that it's socialism doesn't change the fact that it's more socialism for the wealthy and corporations than for the common, average American. But it is still redistribution of wealth and still socialism.
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California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said Saturday that 170 ventilators shipped by the federal government to help his state respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus were "not working" when they arrived.
“Rather than lamenting about it, rather than complaining about it, rather than pointing fingers, rather than generating headlines in order to generate more stress and anxiety, we got a car and a truck,” Newsom said after touring Bloom Energy's ventilator refurbishing site in Sunnyvale, Calif.
“We had those 170 brought here to this facility at 8 a.m. this morning, and they are quite literally working on those ventilators right now.”
“Rather than lamenting about it, rather than complaining about it, rather than pointing fingers, rather than generating headlines in order to generate more stress and anxiety, we got a car and a truck,” Newsom said after touring Bloom Energy's ventilator refurbishing site in Sunnyvale, Calif.
“We had those 170 brought here to this facility at 8 a.m. this morning, and they are quite literally working on those ventilators right now.”
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Does the stimulus that keeps people working and businesses going under, thus keeping jobs, is good as creating them? And that's just one on the front pages.
What I think of you? The same as I think of any opposer, they are all the same, they simply will not see anything good that Trump does...period
All I'm going to do is link you to a site that explains the jobs created of which there is a list of those who created them, and Trump being the highest on the list. It should give you an idea of all the things done to create those jobs. Is that what you want?
I believe them, and if you do not, then you are no more apt to believe me if I spent the afternoon researcheing the details myself.
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