If the virus in China has ebbed, why do they need 40,000 Urns in Wuhan alone?

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I'm just quoting him.

Sorry I did not see quote marks in
your reply to someone when you said.

"Why are you questioning China with all
the transparency they have shown? "

I seen quote marks on next paragraph.
Is above President Trumps exact quote?
Sorry if it was not your reply, it seemed so.
 
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Ah. A desperate attempt to make Trump look less incompetent. I should have known.

Ah a desperate attempt to deflect the OP as an opportunity to throw an insult at the President. Don Lemon would be jealous.
 
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There is a lot to suggest the death toll could be higher than what China has shared, although there's no real confirmation of the suspicion..

In the last 3 months there were 21 million cellphone accounts canceled, and over 3/4 of a million landline accounts..

Granted, this comes after the Chinese government implemented the necessity for facial scanning on cellphones, to connect the user to the account so it's speculative at best, that some of these cancellations might have anything to do with the virus, but coupled with a large uptick (if that's what this is) in urns, then there may be something here.

The question would be what is the percentage of increase in urns, from the normal?

High Deaths in China 21m Mobile Accounts Closed - NH POLITICIAN

It's an interesting speculation, but in the end really just more conspiracy theory than fact. Although with China's historical record well deserved.
 
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Sorry I did not see quote marks in
your reply to someone when you said.

"Why are you questioning China with all
the transparency they have shown? "

I seen quote marks on next paragraph.
Is above President Trumps exact quote?
Sorry if it was not your reply, it seemed so.
Yes, the quote marks are there to indicate what Trump said. I don't think it's complicated but I'm sorry for you having trouble understanding how they work.

But you never said if you agree with Trump or if you think he was a failure at determining that China was transparent and passing on your gratitude to China for their transparency. Are you happy that Trump thanked China on your behalf for their transparency?
 
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Wonder how many non-persons there are in China.

If only one child is allowed per couple,
there may be many unregistered.

They are actually going to have a demographic problem of not having enough kids to support their aging population and economy which is why they have scrapped the one child policy.
 
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Yes, the quote marks are there to indicate what Trump said. I don't think it's complicated but I'm sorry for you having trouble understanding how they work.

Can you show Trumps quote you wrote then

"Why are you questioning China with all
the transparency they have shown? "

As far as I can tell he did not say
Why are you questioning China.

History shows, and the link I gave shows
about this, we should not trust China's word.
 
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Can you show Trumps quote you wrote then

"Why are you questioning China with all
the transparency they have shown? "
No, I didn't put that in quotes. That was my question to you. It was based on Trump's quote, which I put in quotes after that. (That's why they're called "quotes".) I honestly don't understand why the quotes give you so much trouble and I really don't know how to make it any clearer.

But I do know that you're dodging that very question that I asked you. You don't want to admit that Trump failed, it's pretty obvious.
 
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No, I didn't put that in quotes.
That was my question to you.

I know how quotes work,
I quoted you saying

"Why are you questioning China"

I posted about "why we should" link and
you claimed above was a quote from Trump.

Also That was not a question to me, but you
asked the question to someone else first.
That is where your confusion started.
 
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I know how quotes work,
I quoted you saying

"Why are you questioning China"

I posted about "why we should" link and
you claimed above was a quote from Trump.

Also That was not a question to me, but you
asked the question to someone else first.
That is where your confusion started.
Here is my post to you:
I'm just going by what the President of the United States, Donald Trump, said about China on YOUR behalf:
“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump wrote in a post on Twitter. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

If you have a problem with that then tell him, not me. I'm just quoting him. So are you happy with Trump saying China is transparent on your behalf? Or are you being unpatriotic and saying Trump is wrong?

In the first part, I'm answering your question about "Transparency from China". I'm explaining to you that I am telling you that Trump said that China has been transparent to the point that he thanked China for you and all Americans.

I then quoted Trump - the part in quotes is what Trump said, as explained by the part outside of the quotes which explains that it was what Trump wrote in a post on Twitter. You can see in that quote of Trump that he clearly thanked China for their efforts and transparency on behalf of the United States and all Americans.

I then stated that if your problem is with the idea that China showed transparency then your problem isn't with me but with Trump since he's the one who said it.

I then asked if you are happy with Trump's thanking China for their transparency on your behalf or if you think Trump screwed up by doing that, and you continue to dodge that question which I asked directly to you.

I don't know why any of that was unclear to you except that perhaps you don't understand quotes since you kept bringing up quotes. The quotes are very clear in my post so I can't understand why you wouldn't understand.

Do you have an answer to my question yet? Or will you dodge it yet again? (I'm pretty sure I know the answer!)
 
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Do you have an answer to my question yet?
Or will you dodge it yet again? (I'm pretty sure I know the answer!)

I bet you did not even read my first post.
Link about "why we should not" trust China.
Seems all you want to do is discredit Trump.
 
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"Why are you questioning China"

That was my question to you.

No it was not. You asked someone
else that to trip them up.
That was what started it.
 
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I bet you did not even read my first post.
Link about "why we should not" trust China.
Seems all you want to do is discredit Trump.
So let me get this straight:
  • Trump says on behalf of himself and all Americans that he appreciate's China's efforts and transparency and thanks President Xi of China
  • I quote Trump saying all of that
  • You question "Transparency from China?"
  • You also make a post about "why we should not trust China" (quoting YOU - see how that works, with the quotes?)
  • You are therefore disagreeing with Trump
  • You won't even answer the question after several posts that I asked you about whether you agree or disagree with Trump (although you've made it clear that you do NOT)
  • But somehow I'm the one who wants to discredit Trump even though you are the one going directly against him?????
I'm done playing your weird game of your pretending to not know what quotes are and pretending you somehow agree with Trump while you say things that directly disagree with Trump.

Everyone can see right through you, so thank you for your transparency, unintended as it is.
 
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Trump says on behalf of himself and all Americans that he appreciate's Trump's efforts...

Thats funny.

You won't even answer the question after several posts that I asked you about whether you agree or disagree with Trump (although you've made it clear that you do NOT)

The thread was about believing China,
not about to agree or disagree with Trump.
It should not been in "American Politics"

This could effect the whole world. It was
plain from my first post I think we have
reasons not to trust China at there word.

China may have even made the virus.

They could have been transparent on
somethings they did after the wet market,
but not all transparent of things before then.

There is a big difference between agreeing
with someone, or out to discredit them.

If I made it clear, why keep asking me ?

pretending you somehow agree with Trump

I never said I agree here, or with everything
President Trump says like you think I do.
You must be talking about someone else,
or putting words in my mouth.

Do you believe President Trump is right
and China is being transparent in all this?
Or do you believe China is hiding something?
Or is it a combination of both semi true ?
 
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It would be about the narrative about whether the USA is actually the leading nation now in virus outbreak as pointed out by Hillary Clintion.
Hillary Clinton on US leading in coronavirus cases: Trump 'did promise "America First"'
China is lying, it is a part of how eastern philosophy works as you always do what you can to appear the best other wise you are shamed. They are driven by honor not facts so they will always save face. When the Trump blames it on them they are required in honor principal o deflect to save face, not because it's true, but because to keep their honor.

So the US and the rest of the world is just going to have to accept this and allow due diligence expose what it will expose. Until then treat their numbers as a benchmark and accept the US is on top but shifting blame is not going to focus on what is needed in the country
 
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Wuhan has seven other mortuaries. If they are all sticking to the same schedule, this adds up to more than 40,000 urns being distributed in the city over the next 10 days.

Urns in Wuhan far exceed death toll, raising more questions about China’s tally

Yeah I read they are like still training Drs and stuff, like what do they need Drs for if there’s no virus? And how come that guy I saw the other week in a photo was like pointing at someone with a mask? Obviously those Chinese are being inscrutable again, probably they are hiding Godzilla just waiting for a chance to attack the US
 
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I'm just going by what the President of the United States, Donald Trump, said about China on YOUR behalf:
“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus,” Trump wrote in a post on Twitter. “The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

If you have a problem with that then tell him, not me. I'm just quoting him. So are you happy with Trump saying China is transparent on your behalf? Or are you being unpatriotic and saying Trump is wrong?
The great thing about Donald is if he says something which triggers some latent doubts about him, just wait. He'll say the opposite before too long and make the doubts magically disappear.
 
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There is one way you can help yourself; if you feel a need to cough because you feel something in your lungs but resist the urge to cough you are making a big mistake. The cough is an effort to remove a mucus buildup in your lungs. You should cough deeply. You will feel something in your lungs as you cough. This is a mucus buildup in your lungs that you should remove by taking deep, heavy coughs, you will feel the mucus in your lungs being expelled. Continue the deep coughing until you feel you have expelled the mucus. Repeat this whenever you have the urge to do so.

Just a suggestion

:)-
Covid-19 is marked by a dry cough, not a wet, mucusy one.
 
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