Sounds like US was best prepared for pandemic

Need answers · Mar 28, 2020

Aryeh Jay said:
Didn’t the President of the United States say just 30 days ago that we only had 15 cases?

Yes but he was only talking about confirmed cases that we had at that time. Here is what US health secretary Azar in the Trump administration had to say 30 days ago.

US health secretary Azar says more coronavirus cases likely, seeks more funding
PUBLISHED TUE, FEB 25- US health secretary Azar says more coronavirus cases likely, seeks more funding

GoldenBoy89 · Mar 28, 2020

Need answers said:
What could Trump have done sooner?

Taking a more serious tone early on could have brought people onto the same page sooner. It wouldn’t have stopped the problem but we could have addressed it nationally instead of as 50 fractured states responding on their own.

GoldenBoy89 · Mar 28, 2020

Need answers said:
The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHCHS) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by Democrats that the Trump administration left the country vulnerable to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak.

Preparation is one thing, execution is another. The best trained athlete can still lose a crucial game by fumbling the ball.

Ophiolite · Mar 28, 2020

Need answers said:
Thats a matter of opinion.

Thank you for implicitly conceding that I had answered your question.

Need answers said:
He said it could get worse and he said "as the virus spreads, if it spreads".

And the use of "if" was a demonstration of incompetence, or callous indifference, or gross ignorance, or some combination thereof, on his part.

rjs330 · Mar 28, 2020

wing2000 said:
Unlike China, S. Korea, Taiwan, Germany, etc, the U.S. has no national strategy for containing the virus. The Federal government was and is unwilling to isolate communities.

You forget that the federal government has very little power to do that. It's the individual states that have that power. As much as you can't stand the power Trump does have you want him to have more? Don't you complain that Trump wants more power? The states have that power.

essentialsaltes · Mar 28, 2020

Need answers said:
What could Trump have done sooner?

Accepted emergency funding from Congress when it was offered in early February.

Aryeh Jay · Mar 28, 2020

essentialsaltes said:
Accepted emergency funding from Congress when it was offered in early February.

Hey now, we only had 15 cases and it was supposed to be zero, until the Democrats weaponized it to make him look bad.

stevil · Mar 28, 2020

Need answers said:
That would be wise, experts warn of a second wave in China, and possibly in South Korea as well.

The Spanish flu came in three waves with the second wave being the most deadly.

But, I was in particular referring to the potential of USA trying to start up too early to get back to business because Trump thinks the optics looks good to his largely Christian base of being open for Easter. If Trump causes this disease to come back, he will just make the economic impact and the death rate much worse for USA and potentially the world.
NZ should be very weary of what is going on in USA and should try to keep USA folk out of our great country.

coffee4u · Mar 28, 2020

Need answers said:
The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHCHS) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by Democrats that the Trump administration left the country vulnerable to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak.

Being prepared means nothing if the prepared don't take action. Like an army who are well trained, if they sit playing cards while the enemy invades their training means nothing to the people who are killed.

Need answers · Mar 28, 2020

GoldenBoy89 said:
Taking a more serious tone early on could have brought people onto the same page sooner. It wouldn’t have stopped the problem but we could have addressed it nationally instead of as 50 fractured states responding on their own.

I didnt see Nancy Pelosi informing the public. She was too busy impeaching Trump for something Joe Biden himself is so clearly guilty of . And what about Biden? He made false assertions about Trump. He claimed Trump cut the CDC budget but that's false. Ironically when Joe Biden was VP Obama proposed tax cuts to the CDC also!. But no one accuses Obama.

Congress has five main functions: lawmaking (create laws), representing the people, performing oversight, helping constituents, and educating the public; with the primary function being lawmaking.

Need answers · Mar 28, 2020

Ophiolite said:
Thank you for implicitly conceding that I had answered your question.

And the use of "if" was a demonstration of incompetence, or callous indifference, or gross ignorance, or some combination thereof, on his part.

Joe Biden lied about Trump at least twice. Either his ignorance is on display or his disinformation.

Need answers · Mar 28, 2020

stevil said:
The Spanish flu came in three waves with the second wave being the most deadly.

But, I was in particular referring to the potential of USA trying to start up too early to get back to business because Trump thinks the optics looks good to his largely Christian base of being open for Easter. If Trump causes this disease to come back, he will just make the economic impact and the death rate much worse for USA and potentially the world.
NZ should be very weary of what is going on in USA and should try to keep USA folk out of our great country.

Actually Trump only aspires to lift restrictions then, but nothing is set in stone. Dr Fauci said so. He said such a timeline is flexible and aspirational.

Need answers · Mar 28, 2020

coffee4u said:
Being prepared means nothing if the prepared don't take action. Like an army who are well trained, if they sit playing cards while the enemy invades their training means nothing to the people who are killed.

The US has a plan. Testing didn't go well at first but that's all changing. Also, the flawed tests we had at first is Not Trump's fault.

Hank77 · Mar 28, 2020

rjs330 said:
How soon from our first knowledge of this virus coming here does the plan say we should have started testing everyone? Apparently the plan esyablishes the CDC is in charge of the testing proceedures and if there is a failure of the tests it's NOT ON THE PRESIDENT. The plan was followed.

imo,
Failure to not accept the first test kits from Who while the CDC produced our own was his first BIG mistake. South Korea started testing immediately while we didn't start until about 3 wks later and still aren't testing like we need to.

From your report that gave us a score of 100 on this section but obviously there is a problem here because the MCMs are not available.
4.5.1) Infection control equipment availability

1 Questions under this indicator:
Question 1:
4.5.1a) Has the country published a publicly available plan, strategy, or similar document to address PPE supply issues for both routine national use and during a public health emergency?
Score and/or Justification:
The US has a publicly-available strategy and plan addressing personal protective equipment (PPE) supply issues for routine national use and during a public health emergency. The National Health Security Strategy (NHSS) and associated implementation plan published by the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR), Department of Health and Human Services (HSS) include a strategy for improving the supply of PPE, which is explicitly included in the term ‘medical countermeasures’ (MCM). They call for more innovation and public-private partnerships in MCM development, and states that ASPR will provide guidance to inform strategies by local stakeholders for the rapid dissemination of MCMs in an emergency. They note that the BARDA Strategic Plan and the annual PHEMCE Strategy and Implementation Plan prioritize effective, rapid production and dissemination of MCMs.[1,2] The current PHEMCE Strategy and Implementation Plan, covering the 2017-18 period, address MCM (including PPE) development and supply issues, and how to ensure their effective use.[3] The Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) also plays a role by assisting companies in developing and manufacturing MCMs, and in responding to rapidly in the development and manufacturing of MCMs during a public health emergency.[1] Its latest strategy covered 2011-2016.[4,5] For the most part, these plans discuss MCM supply generally, though in the BARDA strategy there are some specific references to PPE. It mentions that BARDA will seek out multipurpose products to keep costs down, such as next-generation ventilators; and that it will continue to maintain or expand the portfolio of MCMs against CBRN threats and pandemic influenza, which includes ventilators and other non-pharmaceutical measures.[4]
United States - GHS Index

BARDA

Strategic National Stockpile
The Public Health Security and Bioterrorism Preparedness Act of 2002 directed the Secretary of Health and Human Services to develop and maintain a Strategic National Stockpile (SNS). The mission of the SNS is to provide for the emergency health security of the United States in the event of a terrorist attack or any other public health emergency.[13]

The SNS is the nation's largest supply of potentially life-saving pharmaceuticals and medical supplies for use in a small outbreak to a large-scale, multiple-threat emergency. When state, local, tribal, and/or territorial responders request federal assistance to support their response efforts, the stockpile is supposed to ensure that supplies are available when and where needed.[14] The stockpile contains enough vaccines, antimicrobial drugs, therapeutic products, and non-pharmaceutical medical supplies to save thousands of lives in the wake of any type of public health emergency including terrorist attacks whether chemical, biological, radiological, and/or nuclear, as well as pandemic influenza and emerging infectious diseases.[15]
Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority - Wikipedia

Need answers · Mar 28, 2020

Hank77 said:
imo,
Failure to not accept the first test kits from Who while the CDC produced our own was his first BIG mistake. South Korea started testing immediately while we didn't start until about 3 wks later and still aren't testing like we need to.

The World Health Organization never offered the US any test kits. They usually give them to poor countries that cant afford to make their own or don't have the expertise to make tests. The US has neither of those problems. Its quite normal for countries such as ours to make our own test kits. THats the decision the CDC made, not Trump.

Need answers · Mar 28, 2020

essentialsaltes said:
Accepted emergency funding from Congress when it was offered in early February.

Emergency funding for what exactly? Congress creates those bills not Trump. All they had to do is pass such legislation. Did Trump not sign it?

Need answers · Mar 28, 2020

coffee4u said:
Being prepared means nothing if the prepared don't take action. Like an army who are well trained, if they sit playing cards while the enemy invades their training means nothing to the people who are killed.

We are taking action and have been taking action.

Hank77 · Mar 28, 2020

Need answers said:
The World Health Organization never offered the US any test kits. They usually give them to poor countries that cant afford to make their own or don't have the expertise to make tests. The US has neither of those problems. Its quite normal for countries such as ours to make our own test kits. THats the decision the CDC made, not Trump.

I was wrong and you are correct that WHO didn't offer the US test kits which were developed by a German company. Germany published their protocol on Jan. 16.
You seem to know more than you are letting on so when did the US have the first test, the bad one, and when did we have the 'good' one?

hedrick · Mar 28, 2020

Hank77 said:
I was wrong and you are correct that WHO didn't offer the US test kits which were developed by a German company. Germany published their protocol on Jan. 16.
You seem to know more than you are letting on so when did the US have the first test, the bad one, and when did we have the 'good' one?

I dont think there’s a single date. See The US decided to make its own coronavirus test, but the process was plagued by errors and delays. Here's a timeline of what went wrong.. Further, at this point the limiting factor isn’t testing, but the fact that taking a sample uses up things like face masks which are in short supply. At least in NJ we could run tests for a lot more people than we can collect samples from.

KCfromNC · Mar 29, 2020

Need answers said:
I lost track, what conversation are we referring to again?

Yes, that's the sort of distraction I expected.

If you are sincere in this question, just click o the little arrows next to "So and so said:" at the top of each quoted post.

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