I am obsessed over this virus because I am afraid

Introverted1293 · Mar 28, 2020

Reborn1977 said:
PLEASE, please be careful everyone who you listen to or turn to for spiritual counsel during this time.

May the TRUE mouthpieces of God hold their tongues until God is ready to speak.

As the wise person put it yesterday, God has yet to make any declaration…until God is ready to declare His Purpose - not man’s twisted ideas.

The spiritually immature and foolish sound off loudly but know little, while the spiritually mature and wise listen, wait, and speak in God’s timing – the timing of the message can be as important as the message.

Thank you very much for that. I understand

Vieste · Mar 28, 2020

FutureAndAHope said:
note I said "and others".

God spoke to me before this virus stating he was going to "invade them", with a curse, who promoted homosexuality, He spoke this in anger. I recently saw a video where He spoke to Perry Stone telling him this virus was a day of reckoning for their sins of homosexuality and abortion.

Romans 12:2
"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect."

Vieste · Mar 28, 2020

FutureAndAHope said:
It is serious, but we have to recognise that God is still the God of mercy that we have known. The bible tells us that "there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ", if we stick close to God He will surely keep us safe from the virus. But even on the off chance that we contracted the virus, God is still our eternal salvation.

Even though this virus, may well have been released due to God's anger, He may reverse it, we only have to look at Chronicles to see God often relents from disaster.

1Ch 21:14-15 So the LORD sent a horrible disease on Israel, and seventy thousand Israelites died. Then he sent an angel to destroy the city of Jerusalem. But just as the angel was about to do that, the LORD felt sorry for all the suffering he had caused the people, and he told the angel, "Stop! They have suffered enough." This happened at the threshing place that belonged to Araunah the Jebusite.

Romans 12:2
"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect."

Reborn1977 · Mar 28, 2020

Vieste said:
Romans 12:2
"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect."

Vieste you quoted FutureAndAHope - - - please note - - -

FutureAndAHope said:
I choose to believe God and his word. I have prayed for this corona virus to end, and I believe it will be ended today.

Choose to believe

Why would someone pray for a virus to be removed and everyone be healed who was sick from it if that person believed that God had shown them that God was using that virus as some type of instrument in God's hands? Well on March 19th FutureAndAHope did just that. Does a true mouthpiece for God want God to stop His "curse" that He has brought? This guy does not make sense, he is spiritually inconsistent and prophetic people speaking true revelation from God are not that.

As I stated earlier....please be careful whom you find your spiritual counsel and guidance in during this difficult time.

CharismaticLady · Mar 28, 2020

Introverted1293 said:
I am terrified. All I can think about is this virus that's going around. It is in my town right now and so far two people have found to be positive with this virus. I am afraid to go shopping. I won't even spend time with my family. My mom has invited me to go and spend time with her, and she is a widow. But I won't do it. I won't let anyone touch me. I am obsessed with washing my hands every second of the day. My hands are starting to crack.

I am healthy physically right now. But mentally I think I'm going to have a breakdown. I keep getting news about so many people dying and how the death toll is increasing. I took the trash out and some stuff flew in my face. That freaks me out. I washed my face but I know that if I end up with a virus, washing it won't stop it.

I don't know what advice you can give me. But any encouraging or advice will be helpful. Thank you very much.

Just found out this info from Harvard Medical that those who died from the disease had Advil in their system. Advil jump starts the virus into pneumonia. Take only Tylenol/acetaminophen, but NO Ibuprofen.

I only take Bayer Aspirin, so don't know how that affects anything.

Introverted1293 · Mar 28, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
Just found out this info from Harvard Medical that those who died from the disease had Advil in their system. Advil jump starts the virus into pneumonia. Take only Tylenol/acetaminophen, but NO Ibuprofen.

I only take Bayer Aspirin, so don't know how that affects anything.

Thank you very much for the info. That is very helpful.

Ricky M · Mar 28, 2020

Mountainmanbob said:
Looks like we have traded in our 6 shooters.
M-Bob

You should see the lines at the gun stores here, especially since gun shops have been deemed an essential business.

Ricky M · Mar 28, 2020

solid_core said:
Known mortality is calculated for known cases. No need to divide or multiply anything.

Hidden cases and hidden mortality are not included.

Yes, but when the experts estimate that their known numbers are only 1/5 of actual cases, they ought to stop calculating death rates since they admit by extrapolation those figures are grossly incorrect.

Ricky M · Mar 28, 2020

Ricky M · Mar 28, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
Just found out this info from Harvard Medical that those who died from the disease had Advil in their system. Advil jump starts the virus into pneumonia. Take only Tylenol/acetaminophen, but NO Ibuprofen.

I only take Bayer Aspirin, so don't know how that affects anything.

The Ibuprofen Debate Reveals the Danger of Covid-19 Rumors

Ricky M · Mar 28, 2020

Sorry have to re-edit this one

solid_core · Mar 28, 2020

Ricky M said:
Yes, but when the experts estimate that their known numbers are only 1/5 of actual cases, they ought to stop calculating death rates since they admit by extrapolation those figures are grossly incorrect.

Again, the death rate is calculated against known, positively confirmed cases. And its 4.5%, there.

Its absolutely certain that there are like 10x-100x more cases that have no symptoms or mild symptoms. But because nobody knows how many are there, they cannot be part of calculation. As nobody knows how many cases of flu, malaria, SARS, HIV or tuberculosis are there, actually. If we want to compare the death rate of diseases, we work with confirmed cases, always.

Ricky M · Mar 28, 2020

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Ricky M · Mar 28, 2020

solid_core said:
Again, the death rate is calculated against known, positively confirmed cases. And its 4.5%, there.

Its absolutely certain that there are like 10x-100x more cases that have no symptoms or mild symptoms. But because nobody knows how many are there, they cannot be part of calculation. As nobody knows how many cases of flu, malaria, SARS, HIV or tuberculosis are there, actually. If we want to compare the death rate of diseases, we work with confirmed cases, always.

A false number is a false number, and should not be publicized

Introverted1293 · Mar 28, 2020

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Thank you very much

FutureAndAHope · Mar 28, 2020

Reborn1977 said:
Vieste you quoted FutureAndAHope - - - please note - - -

Choose to believe

Why would someone pray for a virus to be removed and everyone be healed who was sick from it if that person believed that God had shown them that God was using that virus as some type of instrument in God's hands? Well on March 19th FutureAndAHope did just that. Does a true mouthpiece for God want God to stop His "curse" that He has brought? This guy does not make sense, he is spiritually inconsistent and prophetic people speaking true revelation from God are not that.

As I stated earlier....please be careful whom you find your spiritual counsel and guidance in during this difficult time.

Reborn you need to be careful with your judgment's, as with any believing Christian, when I see sickness, I pray that it be ended. When my prayer was not answered I was introspective, and considered that maybe it was not God's plan to end the sickness. Then I remembered what had been told to me, earlier, that it was God's anger being poured out for the sins of homosexuality. I then began to seek God to give me the answer, was he angry, every indication I have had since suggested that He was angry. But Like I said in this thread, His anger may abate at any time.

Emsmom1 · Mar 28, 2020

SkyWriting said:
God has planned every minute of your life already.

The virus is more contagious than the normal flue. But it is not more deadly. The best case scenario is that you get to see God soon and it might happen any minute of any day. This has always been the case.

Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord, and abundant in power; his understanding is beyond measure.

1 John 3:20
For whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.

Hebrews 4:13
And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

Proverbs 15:3
The eyes of the Lord are in every place, keeping watch on the evil and the good.

Isaiah 40:28
Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.

1 Chronicles 28:9
“And you, Solomon my son, know the God of your father and serve him with a whole heart and with a willing mind, for the Lord searches all hearts and understands every plan and thought. If you seek him, he will be found by you, but if you forsake him, he will cast you off forever.

Acts 1:24
And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which one of these two you have chosen

Matthew 10:30
But even the hairs of your head are all numbered.

Actually, it is more deadly than the regular flu.

Vieste · Mar 28, 2020

Reborn1977 said:
Vieste you quoted FutureAndAHope - - - please note - - -

Choose to believe

Why would someone pray for a virus to be removed and everyone be healed who was sick from it if that person believed that God had shown them that God was using that virus as some type of instrument in God's hands? Well on March 19th FutureAndAHope did just that. Does a true mouthpiece for God want God to stop His "curse" that He has brought? This guy does not make sense, he is spiritually inconsistent and prophetic people speaking true revelation from God are not that.

As I stated earlier....please be careful whom you find your spiritual counsel and guidance in during this difficult time.

Absolutely - Proceed with caution - especially during this time [thus the reference in scripture to discernment].

John Helpher · Mar 28, 2020

Ricky M said:
A false number is a false number, and should not be publicized

Ricky M said:
Heck, even driving exacts a higher toll, yet we're not told to stay home and ruin the world's economy to fight that.

In any conversation it pays to listen carefully to what people say about money, as that generally informs all their decision making (even if/when they themselves do not realize it).

The purpose behind insisting that the virus is not as deadly as the currently known mortality rate is to suggest that it's not bad enough to stop people from going to work, which in turn will result in the economy churning on as usual which will result in money. I get that if we're not making profit then we're not earning our right to live (i.e. we're not earning a living), which in itself should inform people as to just how distorted our economic system is compared to the values of Heaven, where we're meant to help one another because of love and not a fear of starving to death.

As the saying goes, it is difficult to convince a person to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it.

Vieste · Mar 28, 2020

John Helpher said:
In any conversation it pays to listen carefully to what people say about money, as that generally informs all their decision making (even if/when they themselves do not realize it).

The purpose behind insisting that the virus is not as deadly as the currently known mortality rate is to suggest that it's not bad enough to stop people from going to work, which in turn will result in the economy churning on as usual which will result in money. I get that if we're not making profit then we're not earning our right to live (i.e. we're not earning a living), which in itself should inform people as to just how distorted our economic system is compared to the values of Heaven, where we're meant to help one another because of love and not a fear of starving to death.

As the saying goes, it is difficult to convince a person to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it.

Perhaps I'm not understanding. Can we do everything possible to save lives and still strive to prevent our economy from serious collapse? People I communicate with desperately want to keep people well but are ALSO concerned about the economic effect on others who will struggle immensely without sufficient means of support. If you're talking greed and materialism, that's one issue - but basic survival isn't sinful as long as its secondary to soul survival. Just trying to clarify, not debate.

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