Your odds are better for winning the lottery. He doesn’t stop jack for most people.
Well I have been healed from M.E, and never won the lottery - although having my life back it feels as though I have.
I don’t care about ANY IF THAT while I am in the trial. I just want the trial gone. If there is good to come from it I want that gone too. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is worth going through this pain.
I know you don't care about the help and grace that God has already given you.
I was trying to reply to, and answer, your post which insisted that God's plan is to heap pain on everyone and our response has to be to love the pain, want more and thank him for it.
That's totally incorrect; though I can see that it may feel like that from where you are.
And His grace is entirely insufficient. If it was actually sufficient, THE PROBLEMS WOULD NOT HAPPEN! That would be sufficient grace.
No, being a Christian does not mean that we get a pain free, problem free life.
We are not doing God a favour by believing in him, and he doesn't owe us anything.
Have YOU read about David? 90%of his life was pain and suffering, he had a few good years as king the rest was trash.
I wouldn't have said that.
Anointed king when he was a boy, fought Goliath and won a victory for his country, very popular with people, talented in music and poetry, was crowned king and reigned for 40 years. Yes, David had problems - some of them of his own making - but he was known as a king after God's heart. Despite his troubles, David loved God and wrote many of the Psalms in the Bible, expressing his love and trust. God made a covenant with David and made him a promise that there would also be one of his descendants on the throne. When future kings messed up badly and were punished, God always said "for the sake of my servant David, your relative will inherit the throne." The Messiah himself, Jesus, was descended from King David.
I know you don't care and won't be comforted by any of that - before you shout at me - I was simply answering your post.
If I wanted realistic why would a pray to a divine being ?
Oh, I'm sorry; I thought having asked the question, on a Christian forum, "how do I get God to actually help?", you might be interested in a reply which said, "talk to him".
Maybe. I was simply answering your point that pleasant/happy experiences do not do anything for us spiritually; that God only blesses us by giving us pain.
I can count on one hand the people I would call friends. The rest I wouldn’t be hit hard if they died horribly.
That's an uncaring attitude; maybe that's why you don't have many friends.
I actually fell little pity for the poor. I have been poor and it made me LESS sympathetic.
Maybe that says more about you than them.
I lose trust and faith when I study the Bible as I see more of the crud God piled on those who worship him at all.
It's a shame that you see only the negatives, and not examples of his great love.
if he would act for me as your healing shows he acted for you, I might have a greater desire for Him. In fact in better times, I did care about His grace, spirit, love etc. No more. He beat that out of me.
Well, you're in a vicious circle then.
"How do I get God to ACTUALLY help?" - you can't.
"Why should I pray to a divine being?" - to ask him to help you?
"If he helped me I might believe in him - but by 'help' I mean complete physical healing, not empty words" - he has given you help, just not in the way that you demand it.
"I don't care about the 'help' he has given me" - so what's your solution then?
As far as I can see there is only One person who could help you; God. But you're not interested in what he has to say, and like I said in my first post, there is no way to MAKE him do anything.