The Wealthy Flee Coronavirus. Vacation Towns Respond: Stay Away.

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If we're talking about their own homes and property, I don't know if that kind of reaction is defensible, even though it's understandable that the locals who have prospered for years because of these people coming to town in the summer are jumpy now.
 
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even though it's understandable that the locals who have prospered for years because of these people coming to town in the summer are jumpy now.

Money fails as the Bible warned many times.

Ironically, the wealthy have a huge accountability in the spread of the virus around the world in the first place.

They don't see it of course as they see wanton traveling as their privilege (ignoring other things like the damage caused by heavy air traffic to the ozone layer, among other things)

Having lots of money is not a privilege to ruin the planet for everyone. The "blessings" of money is only short term. The damage caused by senseless spending on the other hand, is long term.....
 
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Money fails as the Bible warned many times.

Ironically, the wealthy have a huge accountability in the spread of the virus around the world in the first place.

They don't see it of course as they see wanton traveling as their privilege (ignoring other things like the damage caused by heavy air traffic to the ozone layer, among other things)

Having lots of money is not a privilege to ruin the planet for everyone. The "blessings" of money is only short term. The damage caused by senseless spending on the other hand, is long term.....
You seem to have addressed your post to me, but my comment was not about any of those extraneous ideas you pointed to in your reply. And I certainly don't sympathize with the residents of those vacation towns hating the rich simply because they are rich...if that is what you are thinking about.
 
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Money fails as the Bible warned many times.

Ironically, the wealthy have a huge accountability in the spread of the virus around the world in the first place.

When was the last time you heard the poor support "Buy USA"?

Proverbs 13:22
A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children, but the sinner's wealth is laid up for the righteous.
 
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Ironically, the wealthy have a huge accountability in the spread of the virus around the world in the first place.

...

In delaying the warnings to us by seven weeks (at my estimating)
 
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You seem to have addressed your post to me, but my comment was not about any of those extraneous ideas you pointed to in your reply. And I certainly don't sympathize with the residents of those vacation towns hating the rich simply because they are rich...if that is what you are thinking about.

No, not my intent to address my post specifically for you but to everyone.

I don't hate the rich. There's plenty of rich good people out there.
 
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Proverbs 13:22
A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children, but the sinner's wealth is laid up for the righteous.

The vast majority of the wealthy (including many Christians) is actually doing the latter - laying up their wealth for the righteous.
 
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timewerx said:
No, not my intent to address my post specifically for you but to everyone.

I understand. It's a gray area IMO. Sometimes when we quote someone before responding, it means we are reacting to that person's thoughts in particular. But sometimes it only means that what was said prompted our own contribution on the same topic.

I've run into the misunderstanding of 'which is which' myself. :)
 
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The vast majority of the wealthy (including many Christians) is actually doing the latter - laying up their wealth for the righteous.
Nobody is really sure how that works though. Have you figured it out?


When have you heard of a poor person saving for their grandchildren? I've lived in the Ghetto and didn't see it happening. Most often, poor people stop spending money on their party friends when their pocket is empty.
 
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When have you heard of a poor person saving for their grandchildren?

It probably used to be done a lot, indeed is still being done in some countries.

My mum's mum who married a gent from another country and went there, when she came back to England and she died seven years later, it then took nearly thirty years to get her remaining assets out of that country for personal reasons I'll not go into.

Up to that point we lived in a house with a flat roof with a crack in it (when it rained dad would put a bucket in the middle of "the" bedroom and occasionally borrow a ladder to put tar up there), and after that because Mum could put a deposit down, we moved to a better one.

(To my delight while we were at that house, the Vickers Viscounts and Bristol Britannias kept flying low over us, and the wonderful Vickers Vanguards would come in over my junior school.)

Mum's mum hadn't had a job that I have heard of (the girls were still young) and mum's dad was a clerk.

My own dad was a shoemender turned clerk and my mum only got odd jobs till we were quite big, and even then mostly not very grand ones.

My brother now says he thought at the time we weren't eating well. I thought we only had just enough and I scrape my plate to this day. Looking back, I marvel how few changes of clothes we had. We had no fridge and no phone till I was 11 and no car till I was 21.

Mum bought the new house by taking threepences to the corner box and used to come back swearing about "Mr Crawley" (the conveyancer)!
 
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So what if these people weren't rich? Let's say they were actually poor people coming into the town and they didn't own any property?

In that case we'd all agree that the town had every right to be angry and tell them not to come right?
 
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I agree with rambot on this. If I caught this (without symptoms) in this locality, I stay here, I don't have anywhere else anyway. If I haven't caught it yet, I'm in the same boat as everyone else that hasn't anywhere else to go. Wealth doesn't give spreading privileges. This is different from sending the odd child or frail person somewhere more suited than usual, with just as strict measures as ordinary people. These I expect are largely folks that don't commit to those towns most of the year. With supplies delicate, big spenders will worry everyone. It won't just be them, it'll be all the delivery people!
 
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If we're talking about their own homes and property, I don't know if that kind of reaction is defensible, even though it's understandable that the locals who have prospered for years because of these people coming to town in the summer are jumpy now.

As long as they are adhering to the 14 day isolation - I'm fine with it. That is what they are asked to do.
 
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There are always tensions between locals and city people, no matter where you are, whether a small college town in the Midwest or areas like this where the wealthy keep second homes...

Something like this where people are in a sheer panic, that's only going to heighten those already existing tensions...

borders will go up eventually, unless people stop panicking.
 
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Nobody is really sure how that works though. Have you figured it out?

When have you heard of a poor person saving for their grandchildren? I've lived in the Ghetto and didn't see it happening. Most often, poor people stop spending money on their party friends when their pocket is empty.

The first part of the verse is spiritual in context. Inheritance that lasts a lot longer than material wealth - salvation in the Truth and the Ways of the Lord. That is the inheritance a good man passes to his children. I know this for sure from my grandparents. They were very poor. But what they left me cannot be quantified with money, it's priceless.

Material wealth can sprout wings and fly away - as we read in the Bible. It's unreliable.

The 2nd part of the verse concerns the end times. The wealth the unrighteous will leave behind when they are taken away (Matthew 24:39-41) and the meek and righteous remaining (The meek shall inherit the Earth - including the material wealth the unrighteous leaves behind).
 
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The first part of the verse is spiritual in context. Inheritance that lasts a lot longer than material wealth - salvation in the Truth and the Ways of the Lord.

I didn't see that in the poor areas either.


As for the end times:
Revelation 21:1-7
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.”
 
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I didn't see that in the poor areas either.

You doubt the poor can have salvation?

......He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.”

Who are those in pain? Who are those crying?

Luke 6:20-22
20 Looking at his disciples, he said:

“Blessed are you who are poor,
for yours is the kingdom of God.
21 Blessed are you who hunger now,
for you will be satisfied.
Blessed are you who weep now,
for you will laugh.
22 Blessed are you when people hate you,
when they exclude you and insult you
and reject your name as evil,
because of the Son of Man.
 
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