Poverty is a mindset

Sabertooth said:

Are you suggesting that you cannot help people right where you are? What mile$tone must you surpass before you can start helping people??

"For whoever has,
to him more will be given, and he will have abundance;
but whoever does not have,
even what he [does have] will be taken away from him." Matthew 13:12 NKJV

That verse speaks to the OP, too.

The Island Song (Allies, 1990)

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I am helping people right now. I’m just asking God for more money because I’m trying to start some nonprofit organizations.

TheGreatTribulation said:

I’m trying to start some nonprofit organizations.

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You won't get rich that way...

JIMINZ said:

Then let God deal with that aspect of what He is telling you, If God is really telling you to do something that requires a lot of money, and doesn't cough it up, then He must want you to wait until He does.

There is an order of things.

Luke 16:11
If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?

Therefore in two ways you have not done what is required, your poor, and you can't do what you say God wants you to.

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It’s just so frustrating to wait and now I’m afraid that I will die without fulfilling my dreams.

TheGreatTribulation said:

It’s just so frustrating to wait and now I’m afraid that I will die without fulfilling my dreams.

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Until then, bloom where you are planted.

“The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed,
nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’
because the kingdom of God is [within you].” Luke 17:20-21 NKJV

Sabertooth said:

Until then, bloom where you are planted.

“The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed,
nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’
because the kingdom of God is [within you].” Luke 17:20-21 NKJV

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I’m trying but I feel like my flower is withering.

TheGreatTribulation said:

It’s just so frustrating to wait and now I’m afraid that I will die without fulfilling my dreams.

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Now their your dreams, and not what God wants.

JIMINZ said:

Now their your dreams, and not what God wants.

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They are the dreams that I believe God is giving me.

TheGreatTribulation said:

They are the dreams that I believe God is giving me.

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Then let Him work through you to get those things done, and if God does not, then I would say, you thought of these things all on your own.

God doen not ask people to do things and then not make it possible to do so.

Unless of course you a Televangelist! ....Can I have an A men? And the Church said

JIMINZ said:

Then let Him work through you to get those things done, and if God does not, then I would say, you thought of these things all on your own.

God doen not ask people to do things and then not make it possible to do so.

Unless of course you a Televangelist! ....Can I have an A men? And the Church said

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But it’s so frustrating because I feel like God is telling me to do these things but I am not getting the financing and other resources I am needing. Maybe God is just making me wait but I cannot understand why. Why would I have all these dreams unless God gave them to me?

Why do I feel like God is telling me to do these things but then they never come to fruition?

TheGreatTribulation said:

But it’s so frustrating because I feel like God is telling me to do these things but I am not getting the financing and other resources I am needing. Maybe God is just making me wait but I cannot understand why. Why would I have all these dreams unless God gave them to me?

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I am going to go back to what you said before,
"I DO SEEK THE KINGDOM FIRST"

Then my question is if you have sought the Kingdom first, at what point in you seeking did you actually enter the Kingdom?
I can tell you from personal experience, the Kingdom of God is someplace you can physically enter into where you know exactly where you are and can carry out your normal daily duties at work without being distracted.

Have you entered the Kingdom?
I don't mean sure, yeah when I was Born Again type of thing.

The Kingdom is an actual place of being that you know when you have entered, and when you have left, and I don't mean being kicked out or walking away from God, I mean you can walk into and out of as the occasion arises.

There is a key to the Kingdom most Christians do not know exists, or that they have access to the Kingdom by using that key.

The Key to the Kingdom is, "Literally becoming a Servant"

I mean if you see a need fulfill it, don't wait for God to prompt you do act, seek out how you can become a servant to others, are you taking the credit for buying the Toilet Paper before the crunch hit,or was that God causing you to move by His Spirit, and that goes for the work place as well, if you see a fellow worker in need of help or you can do something that would take some burden off of them then fulfill it.

The more you become a servant to others, and it doesn't take any money to do it, so stop waiting, the deeper into the Kingdom of God you will walk, to where the opportunities you have been dreaming of will all fall into their proper place and timing.

TheGreatTribulation said:

Yes thanks for sharing I am somewhat aware of those principles. But I feel like God has put a strong desire in me to be rich. I honestly believe that he is telling me that I’m going to be extremely wealthy someday. But it’s making me angry because it’s not happening. I’m trying to trust in God’s plan for me but it’s hard when I’m suffering. Doesn’t the scripture say that God will give you the desire of your heart?

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Mat 19:21-24
21) Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22) But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24) And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Mark 10:44
And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

Become a Servant, a true Servant, and see how you life changes.

JIMINZ said:

I am going to go back to what you said before,
"I DO SEEK THE KINGDOM FIRST"

Then my question is if you have sought the Kingdom first, at what point in you seeking did you actually enter the Kingdom?
I can tell you from personal experience, the Kingdom of God is someplace you can physically enter into where you know exactly where you are and can carry out your normal daily duties at work without being distracted.

Have you entered the Kingdom?
I don't mean sure, yeah when I was Born Again type of thing.

The Kingdom is an actual place of being that you know when you have entered, and when you have left, and I don't mean being kicked out or walking away from God, I mean you can walk into and out of as the occasion arises.

There is a key to the Kingdom most Christians do not know exists, or that they have access to the Kingdom by using that key.

The Key to the Kingdom is, "Literally becoming a Servant"

I mean if you see a need fulfill it, don't wait for God to prompt you do act, seek out how you can become a servant to others, are you taking the credit for buying the Toilet Paper before the crunch hit,or was that God causing you to move by His Spirit, and that goes for the work place as well, if you see a fellow worker in need of help or you can do something that would take some burden off of them then fulfill it.

The more you become a servant to others, and it doesn't take any money to do it, so stop waiting, the deeper into the Kingdom of God you will walk, to where the opportunities you have been dreaming of will all fall into their proper place and timing.

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I know what the Kingdom Of God is it’s the rulership of Jesus Christ over your life. I am already a part of the kingdom. I am already practicing service. The point of the companies I’m trying to start is service. I’m just confused about what is happening because God is telling me to start these organizations but he is not equipping me.

public hermit said:

Is that what that means?

"Poverty is a mindset" def. = people who can't afford what they want, but they are warm and fat

Okay, but as you point out that is not true poverty. It is rich, compared to some, but it is also not being hungry and in need. If that is what it means, then "poverty is a mindset" does not refer to true poverty, but simply not having all you want.

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Poverty is relative to the person who says they are poor.

I complained because I had no shoes until I saw a man who had no feet.

It's the same type of thing, there are people who cry poverty, with two loves of bread under their arm.

JIMINZ said:

Mat 19:21-24
21) Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22) But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24) And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Mark 10:44
And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

Become a Servant, a true Servant, and see how you life changes.

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I know how my life will change. I will go to the cross.

JIMINZ said:

Poverty is relative to the person who says they are poor.

I complained because I had no shoes until I saw a man who had no feet.

It's the same type of thing, there are people who cry poverty, with two loves of bread under their arm.

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Yeah I know that I am blessed more than some people and always looking at what I don’t have. I guess I understand what you are saying. I need to be more thankful.

TheGreatTribulation said:

I know what the Kingdom Of God is it’s the rulership of Jesus Christ over your life. I am already a part of the kingdom. I am already practicing service. The point of the companies I’m trying to start is service. I’m just confused about what is happening because God is telling me to start these organizations but he is not equipping me.

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He just did, in what I told you, but you want to do it yourself for Him, when the only way what you want to do, is to let Him do those things through you because, that is the only way He is allowed to work here now.

God is out of the Creating business, he gave you dominion over this world, take control of it, He can and will work through you but you have to let Him,
God is the God of Small Beginnings.

TheGreatTribulation said:

Yeah I know that I am blessed more than some people and always looking at what I don’t have. I guess I understand what you are saying. I need to be more thankful.

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No I am saying.

Stop lusting after riches, slow down, and let God do the work you believe only you are capable of doing.

Become a Servant, I don't mean service I mean a literal Servant to people until it becomes a lifestyle instead of something you do.

If a person does things the way God wants them done, then there are all sorts of free things that God will funnel into His work, that's right, His work not yours.

JIMINZ said:

He just did, in what I told you, but you want to do it yourself for Him, when the only way what you want to do, is to let Him do those things through you because, that is the only way He is allowed to work here now.

God is out of the Creating business, he gave you dominion over this world, take control of it, He can and will work through you but you have to let Him,
God is the God of Small Beginnings.

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Yeah but really what I need are some grants or maybe business loans but my credit is destroyed. I am having trouble finding grants.

I already know about the importance of service. That is the point of what I am doing. I am trying to start a nonprofit organization.

JIMINZ said:

No I am saying.

Stop lusting after riches, slow down, and let God do the work you believe only you are capable of doing.

Become a Servant, I don't mean service I mean a literal Servant to people until it becomes a lifestyle instead of something you do.

If a person does things the way God wants them done, then there are all sorts of free things that God will funnel into His work, that's right, His work not yours.

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I am already doing service. I am already a servant. I know I could do more but I am doing my best.