Poverty is a mindset

faroukfarouk · Mar 25, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
What do you care? It's not between you and them, its between God and them...

Stick with following what God teaches, yourself. When your steeped in sin your not in a position to judge others.

Remove the log from your own eye... then you will see clearly.

When the state becomes responsible deciding how much money people should be "allowed" to keep, this is making the state fulfill the role of God; rather like Stalin's dictum: Tell me who the person is and I'll tell you what his crime is.

faroukfarouk · Mar 25, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
God calls us to allow our convictions, not our circumstances to govern our sense of contentment - Rob Kuban

Philippians 4:11-13 I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances.

Good quote there...

JIMINZ · Mar 25, 2020

public hermit said:
I don't know. It depends on who's saying it. I'm not going to pay much credence to someone who, with a full belly, tells me, "Poverty is just a mindset." Even people who know what it's like to be flat broke can forget, over time, just how bad it can be. What they mean in saying that might not correspond to the reality.

Would someone who is truly starving and in want say, "Poverty is just a mindset?" I don't know. Maybe. Whatever the case, if they did say that, they couldn't mean by simply changing their mind they would no longer be hungry or in want. Their mind can't abrogate the fact (can it?). So, I don't know what it's supposed to mean.

It has been proven, Placebos work, isn't that mind over reality?

Therefore "YES" a certain mindset can influence your life, (Financial well-being)

TheGreatTribulation · Mar 25, 2020

JIMINZ said:
That's right if the Ball Player misses the ball and strikes out, it's the bats fault, or if that same player misses the ball in the outfield it's the gloves fault.

Therefore if some guy has a pile of money and you don't it's because he horded it.

At this moment, how many rolls of toilet Paper are in you house?....

Are you sharing?

I have 200 rolls I will share as God shows me needs.

Obviously if the rich hoard their money and won’t share than its not possible for you to get rich. They are keeping the majority of the world in poverty purposely so they can maintain control over them.

public hermit · Mar 25, 2020

JIMINZ said:
It has been proven, Placebos work, isn't that mind over reality?

Therefore "YES" a certain mindset can influence your life, (Financial well-being)

Sure, but true poverty is not a placebo. My point was, if someone is truly hungry and in need, simply changing their mind about it won't fill their belly or eliminate the need. I doubt someone with a distended belly from hunger and without adequate clothing and shelter would argue the problem is simply how they're looking at things.

Those who say "poverty is a mindset" are not destitute. The reference of the saying cannot be abject poverty.

JIMINZ · Mar 25, 2020

TheGreatTribulation said:
I am miserable poor. I cannot stop lusting for riches.

Jas. 4:3
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

Sabertooth · Mar 25, 2020

TheGreatTribulation said:
I have 200 rolls I will share as God shows me needs.

So, you're the guy...!

TheGreatTribulation · Mar 25, 2020

Sabertooth said:
So, you're the guy...!

Ha ha that toilet paper will be shared. I saw this disaster coming so I stocked up.

Sabertooth · Mar 25, 2020

public hermit said:
Those who say "poverty is a mindset" are not destitute. The reference of the saying cannot be abject poverty.

I spoke to that in post #2.

JIMINZ · Mar 25, 2020

TheGreatTribulation said:
I do seek first the kingdom and serve Jesus above all but I still feel that God is not blessing me with my needs.

Thank you for the scripture you are sharing.

How have you sought The Kingdom, what have you learned about The Kingdom?

Jermayn · Mar 25, 2020

TheGreatTribulation said:
I try to keep my bills very low. But I am still not rich. I do try to live within my means but that doesn’t mean that God is blessing me financially.

Matthew 6:19-21
19“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

These are Jesus' words. Do you have faith in what he said? You're actually in a position to store of a vast amount of treasure in heaven.

TheGreatTribulation · Mar 25, 2020

Sabertooth said:
So, you're the guy...!

Sabertooth · Mar 25, 2020

TheGreatTribulation said:
I saw this disaster coming so I stocked up.

Could such purchases contribute to your sense of poverty?
Do you count that and any other stockpiles that you maintain as part of your assets??

TheGreatTribulation · Mar 25, 2020

JIMINZ said:
How have you sought The Kingdom, what have you learned about The Kingdom?

Yes I have. Why do you think I want money? To do what God is telling me.

TheGreatTribulation · Mar 25, 2020

Sabertooth said:
Could such purchases contribute to your sense of poverty?

Do you count that and any other stockpiles that you maintain as part of your assets??

It probably didn’t help my financial situation.

JIMINZ · Mar 25, 2020

public hermit said:
Sure, but true poverty is not a placebo. My point was, if someone is truly hungry and in need, simply changing their mind about it won't fill their belly or eliminate the need. I doubt someone with a distended belly from hunger and without adequate clothing and shelter would argue the problem is simply how they're looking at things.

Those who say "poverty is a mindset" are not destitute. The reference of the saying cannot be abject poverty.

Try keeping things in their proper perspective, your going to the extremes to make your point, sure there are homeless and hungry children with distended bellies, but that is not what the OP was asking.

I did not say that poverty was the placebo, I said that the placebo would be a different positive mind set, and I don't mean , just thinking all the time, "I want to be rich"

plus people live in areas that they shouldn't, or have jobs that don't pay as much as the need, or their education won't let them get a higher paying job, these are all factors which each individual has the power to change, but if there is always an excuse as to why they can't then it "IS" a mind set that hurts them the most, they are unwilling to do those things they need to do to change their situation.

TheGreatTribulation · Mar 25, 2020

JIMINZ said:
Jas. 4:3
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

Not hardly. The main reason that I want more money is so I can help more people.

TheGreatTribulation · Mar 25, 2020

JIMINZ said:
How have you sought The Kingdom, what have you learned about The Kingdom?

I study the Bible everyday. I went to Bible College. I know the Bible inside and out. I have read it many times.

Sabertooth · Mar 25, 2020

TheGreatTribulation said:
The main reason that I want more money is so I can help more people.

Are you suggesting that you cannot help people right where you are? What mile$tone must you surpass before you can start helping people??

"For whoever has,
to him more will be given, and he will have abundance;
but whoever does not have,
even what he [does have] will be taken away from him." Matthew 13:12 NKJV

That verse speaks to the OP, too.

The Island Song (Allies, 1990)

JIMINZ · Mar 25, 2020

TheGreatTribulation said:
Yes I have. Why do you think I want money? To do what God is telling me.

Then let God deal with that aspect of what He is telling you, If God is really telling you to do something that requires a lot of money, and doesn't cough it up, then He must want you to wait until He does.

There is an order of things.

Luke 16:11
If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?

Therefore in two ways you have not done what is required, your poor, and you can't do what you say God wants you to.

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