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Only God is eternal.According to the Strong's Concordance, they are interchangeable as they both apply to that which is ongoing and never ending.
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Only God is eternal.According to the Strong's Concordance, they are interchangeable as they both apply to that which is ongoing and never ending.
According to the Strong's Concordance, they are interchangeable as they both apply to that which is ongoing and never ending.
That's like worrying about how you will be able to continue to make your monthly mortgage payments when you have the deed in your hands. On it is stamped...
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Salvation is not dependent on us. Never was. Salvation is the work of God, done on his timetable.
What if that is actually available to everyone?
Why do you believe that "Christians who are in Christ are forgiven and reconciled to God" AT JUDGEMENT ???
The evidence? Right here. (scripture below) Done deal.Well yes - but you said that everybody is ALREADY saved.
If they are, where's the evidence of that?
Okay, good.I don't.
I am reconciled to Christ now; as are you, and all other believers on these forums.
Okay, good.
This scripture says that, "one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people."
Romans 5:18-19
Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people,
so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people.
19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners,
so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
1 John 5:19The evidence? Right here. (scripture below) Done deal.
Colossians 1:19-20
For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
>FL>Dear Contender: Dr. Strong has provided a wonderful service for us with his numbering of koine words.FineLinen said:....
Why do you mention Dr. Strong then link to Vincent?
Why in the hell, should any of us, give a damn, about any convention of man that contradicts what God has already said?!The Athanasian Creed clearly says that belief in eternal punishment is a requirement for salvation. Said Creed has been accepted in the past by the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, the Anglican Church and the Lutheran Church. Where does this leave Catholics, Orthodox, Anglicans and Lutherans who simply cannot profess a belief in eternal punishment, as well as all other Christians who in good conscience, are unable to confess such a belief?
I am reminded of a Lutheran service that I attended 30 years ago in a Midwestern suburban community. That Sunday there was a guest pastor and he chose to use the Athanasian Creed. The congregation was reading the Creed aloud together, but when the time came to read the line about eternal punishment, 95+% of the congregation went silent and refused to read said line aloud.
Okay, good.
This scripture says that, "one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people."
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I agree.Why in the hell, should any of us, give a damn, about any convention of man that contradicts what God has already said?!
You say, "ALL people can be saved and made righteous"? By what?Yes ALL people can be saved and made righteous.
But not all will accept that gift from God.
Elsewhere on these forums, someone has written about how their father hated God, really hated him. There are probably many lie that; others are indifferent to him. In what way has someone who hates God been made righteous - or is it your belief that they can, and will, be made righteous after they die?
I'm talking about physical death.
Are you saying that we all die, are raised back to life and then those who rejected God have a chance to repent?
Not what Scripture says; Hebrews 9:27, 2 Corinthians 5:10, 1 Corinthians 3:13-14.
Yes ALL people can be saved and made righteous.
But not all will accept that gift from God.
Elsewhere on these forums, someone has written about how their father hated God, really hated him. There are probably many lie that; others are indifferent to him. In what way has someone who hates God been made righteous - or is it your belief that they can, and will, be made righteous after they die?
@Strong in HimDear Strong: Salvation is NOT on us! Not only can the broken wrecks of the great schism of the fall of Adam1 be saved and made righteous, they shall! Every last broken wreck of the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Please follow the bouncing ball of reconciliation>>>
The polus "made sinners" = the polus "made righteous".
I don't.
I am reconciled to Christ now; as are you, and all other believers on these forums.
You say, "ALL people can be saved and made righteous"? By what?
This scripture says it has ALREADY been accomplished. Christ did it on the cross.
If you indeed "know he did", then why do you make it about us?I know he did.
But that doesn't mean that everyone in the world - the atheists, Mormons, suicide bombers etc etc - are saved or righteous.
If they are already saved then they have eternal life already, correct?I think you would agree with that. But you appear to be saying that one day they will die, meet with God, be told that they HAD been saved and righteous while on earth, and say "ok; I believe, then", and be given eternal life there and then, because they have finally believed.