Hypothetical sacrament

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Think for a moment of a hypothetical sacrament. Some act or so alluded to in the bible, that some groups hold as necessary for salvation, but that other groups don't. One group revels in it claiming the Holy Spirit compels them to do it, while the other group claims the Holy Spirit compels them to avoid it.

How do we know which group is right?
 

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Think for a moment of a hypothetical sacrament. Some act or so alluded to in the bible, that some groups hold as necessary for salvation, but that other groups don't. One group revels in it claiming the Holy Spirit compels them to do it, while the other group claims the Holy Spirit compels them to avoid it.

How do we know which group is right?
Both are right and wrong.

There is no specific sacrament that saves and doesn't save.
Salvation is a process, beginning with faith. Which by faith, come the sacraments.
The Holy Spirit won't compel someone to avoid a sacrament. If not the Lords Supper, if the person isn't ready to partake, having not examined themselves.
 
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The one which follows the instruction of our fathers is the one which is correct. Being able to make an argument from scripture or from feelings is nothing new and is no kind of evidence of anything (recall here Montanus and the others of the 'new prophecy', Joseph Smith and his religion, etc.), but what the Church actually did certainly is. For instance I recall some writing by our common father St. John Chrysostom (I'm sorry, but I don't remember the actual sermon, or I would link it here) where he talked about some heretical sect which baptized dead people (as the Mormons claim to do today with their baptisms for the dead), and how wrong they were, and how the Church has never condoned or participated in such a thing. That's evidence in itself. What has been established stands as evidence of who is in the right and who is not.
 
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As long as we're talking about sacrements, I figured the definition would be good to bring up. The numbers in parentheses are references to paragraphs elsewhere in the Catechism.

From the Glossary of the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

SACRAMENT:
An efficacious sign of grace, instituted by Christ and entrusted to the Church, by which divine life is dispensed to us through the work of the Holy Spirit (774, 1131). The sacraments (called "mysteries" in the Eastern Churches) are seven in number: Baptism, Confirmation, Eucharist, Penance or Reconciliation, Anointing of the Sick, Holy Orders, and Matrimony (1210).
 
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Think for a moment of a hypothetical sacrament. Some act or so alluded to in the bible, that some groups hold as necessary for salvation, but that other groups don't. One group revels in it claiming the Holy Spirit compels them to do it, while the other group claims the Holy Spirit compels them to avoid it.

How do we know which group is right?
I'd just look.at what the oldest Church is doing. Newness does not equal correctness.
 
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