What are the BIG things in the Bible we must accept as Christians? (Please no debating or criticism)

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Anyone who has ever made a "To Do List" knows that they are trying to set things in order. Anytime somebody made registry of names on a book is setting in order those people. For surely, if names were written on a piece of paper and hidden throughout the United States, it would not neatly set in order the names of those who attended. Anytime we made a list of anything in life, we are trying to create order out of chaos. This is why lists are about setting things into order. It can be about grouping things together based on a pattern or be numbering or counting of certain things.

"Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account:" (Ecclesiastes 7:27).

"As the LORD commanded Moses, so he numbered them in the wilderness of Sinai." (Numbers 1:19).

"But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered." (Luke 12:7).

"But Peter rehearsed the matter from the beginning, and expounded it by order unto them, saying,"

"Doth not he see my ways, and count all my steps?" (Job 31:4).

"And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs." (Ecclesiastes 12:9).

"For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" (Isaiah 28:10).

"Order my steps in thy word: and let not any iniquity have dominion over me." (Psalms 119:133).

"Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us," (Luke 1:1).

"It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus," (Luke 1:3).

"So I do not run like one who runs aimlessly or box like one beating the air." (1 Corinthians 9:26) (CSB).

"That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered." (Ecclesiastes 1:15).

"Let all things be done decently and in order." (1 Corinthians 14:40).​


If something is set out of order it is chaos and confusion. However...

"...God is not the author of confusion,..." (1 Corinthians 14:33).​

Many today in the church do not want order, but they want their own chaotic ways. They will at times reject basic knowledge to promote disorder or their own path or ways over the order of God. This is one of the reasons why God says,

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge...." (Hosea 4:6).

I say this all in love and with the hope that you may see where I am coming from. If not, then by all means...
carry on as you were and God will set things in order in their due time.

Anyways, peace, and love to you today in the Lord
(Even if we disagree strongly on Scripture).
The recipient determines if something is done in love. I do not in the least feel loved by your words so you are only fooling yourself.

I ask again, do give those you are in relationship a list of your expectations in order to maintain relationship with you? Do you ask them for their list do you know what you are to do to maintain that relationship? Have you give God a list of your expectations?

The problem is you do not understand that love doesn’t give lists. There are expectations if there is to be a relationship at all but it’s not in a sterile loveless list.
 
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The recipient determines if something is done in love. I do not in the least feel loved by your words so you are only fooling yourself.

I ask again, do give those you are in relationship a list of your expectations in order to maintain relationship with you? Do you ask them for their list do you know what you are to do to maintain that relationship? Have you give God a list of your expectations?

The problem is you do not understand that love doesn’t give lists. There are expectations if there is to be a relationship at all but it’s not in a sterile loveless list.

Actually, there are things in a relationship that you can make a list of things not to do and things to do as a part of having a loving relationship. Many times these lists can simply unspoken. But if you ever experienced a loving relationship, you know that there are things you know to do and not do as a part of loving them and expecting them to love you in return. In fact, if anyone raises a child, they know that they have to lay down ground rules to protect their child, and themselves. Take for example the current crisis we are in. You may see it as unloving for your government to limit exposure to being around other people because they are trying to control your life, but they are trying to protect you from a deadly virus. Without rules, you would fall into chaos and destruction. God has rules for mankind because they are far from Him and they need to be guided back to God whereby it will become natural to just obey God in time. Many loving relationships can be broken up because of a lack of love by the other partner. They make lists in their mind as to the unloving things that the other partner may do that is destroying the love that they once had. But if you see that we do not have to have any standard of morality or goodness, then by all means, there are no rules or lists. Murder is not wrong, and adultery is not wrong. Just do whatever pleases you. Don't tell me that stealing is wrong? That is not loving, right? For the thief may be stealing from the rich to give to the poor, and to help himself. He may see what He is doing as loving. But God would not agree. For God has made it clear within His Word that stealing is wrong.

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Oh, and as for not feeling the love in my words:
A person who is drunk and is about to drive may say the same thing to me if I warn him in love not to drive drunk with his kid is in the car. I am sure the other drunk drivers who drive with their children in the car may see my chastisement of them in love as being unloving towards them. They may say something like, "You know, I do not like the tone of your voice here." "It's not loving." "I am not feeling the love, bro." "Let me live my life." "Nothing is gonna happen." Then we read in the news the next day about their tragic accident (despite my pleading for their life in love).
 
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The recipient determines if something is done in love. I do not in the least feel loved by your words so you are only fooling yourself.

I ask again, do give those you are in relationship a list of your expectations in order to maintain relationship with you? Do you ask them for their list do you know what you are to do to maintain that relationship? Have you give God a list of your expectations?

The problem is you do not understand that love doesn’t give lists. There are expectations if there is to be a relationship at all but it’s not in a sterile loveless list.

If rule keeping as a part of loving our Lord is wrong, why would Jesus tell us the following things?

For Jesus said,
"If you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15).

Jesus said,
"If you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love." (John 15:10).
 
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If rule keeping as a part of loving our Lord is wrong, why would Jesus tell us the following things?

For Jesus said,
"If you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15).

Jesus said,
"If you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love." (John 15:10).
It’s not a list and it’s not a rule. It’s hard to explain if you yourself are not in a loving relationship (which I cannot possibly know.) In a relationship there are rightful expectations to maintain the relationship. Surely you know them yourself and I don’t need to name them.

To tell the other “it’s a rule (or else)” is to kill the love in the relationship. Calling these things a “list” or “rule” makes it legally binding without love being an element anymore.

One would have to see one’s relationship with God as one of love to clearly see how calling Jesus’ teaching “rules” or “lists to complete” as repugnant. A command is from a Father to an offspring which IS relationship.
 
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It’s not a list and it’s not a rule. It’s hard to explain if you yourself are not in a loving relationship (which I cannot possibly know.) In a relationship there are rightful expectations to maintain the relationship. Surely you know them yourself and I don’t need to name them.

To tell the other “it’s a rule (or else)” is to kill the love in the relationship. Calling these things a “list” or “rule” makes it legally binding without love being an element anymore.

One would have to see one’s relationship with God as one of love to clearly see how calling Jesus’ teaching “rules” or “lists to complete” as repugnant. A command is from a Father to an offspring which IS relationship.

Sorry, the Bible does not agree with you.
I have news for you. Commandments are rules.

Jesus says if you love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15).
Jesus says if you keep His commandments (rules) you will abide in His love (John 15:10).

Jesus even says,
"Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him" (John 14:23).

So keeping His commandments (Which are rules) also means that God makes our home in us (i.e. To have a relationship).

You can invent any outside idea to this all you like, but you would not be speaking in line with what these verses plainly say.
 
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Sorry, the Bible does not agree with you.
You are wrong.
I have news for you. Commandments are rules.
Not for those who know and love God. It sounds like a rule to those who don’t. The reality is one cannot really command love. But for those who do love, it’s a joy.
Jesus says if you love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15).
Jesus says if you keep His commandments (rules) you will abide in His love (John 15:10).
The idea that if we don’t keep his teaching, we don’t really love Him according to Him, will not be a popular idea. Pretty sure those who think he gives rules don’t understand his mind.
Jesus even says,
"Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him" (John 14:23).
No one who loves him degrades his teaching into rules. It is very demeaning.
So keeping His commandments (Which are rules) also means that God makes our home in us (i.e. To have a relationship).
If a person calls the expectations of their beloved “rules” they do not understand what a loving relationship is.
You can invent any outside idea to this all you like, but you would not be speaking in line with what these verses plainly say.
Sorry but calling his teaching “rules” is inventing an outside idea for sure.
 
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You are wrong. Not for those who know and love God. It sounds like a rule to those who don’t. The reality is one cannot really command love. But for those who do love, it’s a joy.
The idea that if we don’t keep his teaching, we don’t really love Him according to Him, will not be a popular idea. Pretty sure those who think he gives rules don’t understand his mind. No one who loves him degrades his teaching into rules. It is very demeaning.
If a person calls the expectations of their beloved “rules” they do not understand what a loving relationship is.

Sorry but calling his teaching “rules” is inventing an outside idea for sure.

So how do you interpret John 14:15, John 14:23, and John 15:10?
Can you offer a word for word commentary on these verses?
For example: How do you interpret or understand the word "commandments" in these verses? Are not commandments the same thing as rules?
 
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So how do you interpret John 14:15, John 14:23, and John 15:10?
Can you offer a word for word commentary on these verses?
For example: How do you interpret or understand the word "commandments" in these verses? Are not commandments the same thing as rules?
Commandments are instructions given by an authoritative source to a subservient one. In the God to man relationship or Father/Mother to under aged offspring there is also the loving relationship aspect that is the main goal and vital. That’s why the commandment is to love not to do. To love is not a rule. It cannot be. It is beyond the limits of what a rule can be. It is also not a law. It cannot be enforced. It is actually not punished. But keeping a commandment is rewarded.

Unlike modern teaching, God will dwell in those who follow the teaching of Jesus as JESUS knows this to be. There is no promise He dwells in those who “accept Hum”
in as though he were homeless otherwise. What is more, there is a love God has for those who obey Him (do what Jesus taught) that is only for those who do. That is what those verses promise.

This is very clear to those who have tasted of this. It might seem
like rules or laws to those on the outside same as marriage to the swinging single seems a cage. But for those who live and breathe this relationship, it is as far away from rules as you can get.
 
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Commandments are instructions given by an authoritative source to a subservient one. In the God to man relationship or Father/Mother to under aged offspring there is also the loving relationship aspect that is the main goal and vital. That’s why the commandment is to love not to do. To love is not a rule. It cannot be. It is beyond the limits of what a rule can be. It is also not a law. It cannot be enforced. It is actually not punished. But keeping a commandment is rewarded.

Unlike modern teaching, God will dwell in those who follow the teaching of Jesus as JESUS knows this to be. There is no promise He dwells in those who “accept Hum”
in as though he were homeless otherwise. What is more, there is a love God has for those who obey Him (do what Jesus taught) that is only for those who do. That is what those verses promise.

This is very clear to those who have tasted of this. It might seem
like rules or laws to those on the outside same as marriage to the swinging single seems a cage. But for those who live and breathe this relationship, it is as far away from rules as you can get.

You say commandments are not about "to do" them.

Let's see if that theory holds up to what the Bible plainly says.

"If thou shalt keep all these commandments to do them, which I command thee this day, to love the LORD thy God, and to walk ever in his ways; then shalt thou add three cities more for thee, beside these three:" (Deuteronomy 19:9).

"To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them." (Psalms 103:18).

Nope. It doesn't look your thinking here is right.
 
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Commandments are instructions given by an authoritative source to a subservient one. In the God to man relationship or Father/Mother to under aged offspring there is also the loving relationship aspect that is the main goal and vital. That’s why the commandment is to love not to do. To love is not a rule. It cannot be. It is beyond the limits of what a rule can be. It is also not a law. It cannot be enforced. It is actually not punished. But keeping a commandment is rewarded.

Unlike modern teaching, God will dwell in those who follow the teaching of Jesus as JESUS knows this to be. There is no promise He dwells in those who “accept Hum”
in as though he were homeless otherwise. What is more, there is a love God has for those who obey Him (do what Jesus taught) that is only for those who do. That is what those verses promise.

This is very clear to those who have tasted of this. It might seem
like rules or laws to those on the outside same as marriage to the swinging single seems a cage. But for those who live and breathe this relationship, it is as far away from rules as you can get.

Also, Jesus did not say if you love me I will keep the commandment for you or change you so that I will do His commandments through you or change you so that you will automatically keep His commandments whereby they are no longer commandments anymore. That is not what Jesus said. Jesus said if you love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15). You either believe the plain words of Jesus here or you don't believe them. Jesus wanted to get us to obey His commandments. He said if you keep my commands He and the Father will make their home or abode in a person (John 14:23). You are saying something else. Jesus said if you keep my commandments you will abide in my love. You are changing John 15:10 to mean the reverse of that.
 
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You say commandments are not about "to do" them.

Let's see if that theory holds up to what the Bible plainly says.

"If thou shalt keep all these commandments to do them, which I command thee this day, to love the LORD thy God, and to walk ever in his ways; then shalt thou add three cities more for thee, beside these three:" (Deuteronomy 19:9).

"To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them." (Psalms 103:18).

Nope. It doesn't look your thinking here is right.
How does one Do “love God”
according to you? What does that look like if you watched someone doing that?
 
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Also, Jesus did not say if you love me I will keep the commandment for you or change you so that I will do His commandments through you or change you so that you will automatically keep His commandments whereby they are no longer commandments anymore. That is not what Jesus said. Jesus said if you love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15). You either believe the plain words of Jesus here or you don't believe them. Jesus wanted to get us to obey His commandments. He said if you keep my commands He and the Father will make their home or abode in a person (John 14:23). You are saying something else. Jesus said if you keep my commandments you will abide in my love. You are changing John 15:10 to mean the reverse of that.
I’m not saying anything about the above. Not a word. You are changing the words i wrote.
 
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What are the BIG things in the Bible we must accept as Christians?

For me your list is inadequate as according to the scriptures we are to live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. MATTHEW 4:4; 2 TIMOTHY 3:16. In times of ignorance God winks at but when he gives us a knowledge of the truth calls us to believe and follow His Word *ACTS 17:30-31; ACTS 5:29.
 
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How does one Do “love God”
according to you? What does that look like if you watched someone doing that?

How does one love God?
By keeping His commandments.
Well, loving God is the 1st of the two greatest commandments (Mark 12:29-31).

29 "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."
(Mark 12:29-31).​

So to love God is the 1st of the greatest commandments.
To love God is a command, and not a suggestion.
Jesus says if you love me, keep my commandments (John 14:15).
Jesus says if you keep His commandments you will abide in His love (John 15:10).
 
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What are the BIG things in the Bible we must accept as Christians?

For me your list is inadequate as according to the scriptures we are to live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. MATTHEW 4:4; 2 TIMOTHY 3:16. In times of ignorance God winks at but when he gives us a knowledge of the truth calls us to believe and follow His Word *ACTS 17:30-31; ACTS 5:29.

Well, if you mean the writings of Ellen G. White then by all means... you would be correct. I do not accept what she says as being of the Word of God or true. I also do not accept the idea that Christians must keep the Saturday Sabbath, either. Colossians 2:14-17 destroys that idea. Please. Do not post the verses on how we must keep the Old Testament Law of Moses in debate. This thread is not about debating the Sabbath or the Law of Moses. Neither is this thread about you criticizing my lists.

Actually this thread is about you posting what you believe are the BIG things that are necessary as a part of being a Christian.

Thank you.
And may God bless you.
 
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Well, if you mean the writings of Ellen G. White then by all means... you would be correct. I do not accept what she says as being of the Word of God or true. I also do not accept the idea that Christians must keep the Saturday Sabbath, either. Colossians 2:14-17 destroys that idea. Please. Do not post the verses on how we must keep the Old Testament Law of Moses in debate. This thread is not about debating the Sabbath or the Law of Moses. Neither is this thread about you criticizing my lists.

Actually this thread is about you posting what you believe are the BIG things that are necessary as a part of being a Christian.

Thank you.
And may God bless you.

No. I mean exactly what I posted earlier in the scriptures I posted to you. We are not to cherry pick the scriptures or parts of the bible we like and disregard things we do not like. As posted earlier your list is inadequate as according to the scriptures we are to live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. MATTHEW 4:4; 2 TIMOTHY 3:16. In times of ignorance God winks at but when he gives us a knowledge of the truth calls us to believe and follow His Word *ACTS 17:30-31; ACTS 5:29.

Hope this clears up any misunderstanding.

As to your claims of Colossians 2:14-17? I believe you are misinterpreting these scripture which are in reference and context to the annual feast days and their sabbath plural that are connected to feast days and days and days of holy convocation that can fall on any day of the week, which have nothing to do with God's 4th commandment weekly Sabbath. This can be clearly shown through the scripture and chapter context your leaving out.

I believe Colossians 2:14-17 has nothing to do with God's 4th commandment weekly seventh day Sabbath and your misinterpreting these scriptures. It is talking about the annual ceremonial sabbath plural connected to the annual feast days (Feast of trumpets, Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles and judging others. This is demonstrated in the old and new testament scriptures that Paul is quoting from fulfilled in Christ and God's plan of salvation in the new covenant (scriptures provided starting here linked). You do know there are many kinds of Sabbaths beside Gods 4th commandment seventh day weekly Sabbath of God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandment right (the sabbaths in yearly feastivals; Jubilee sabbath, sabbath of the land and days of holy convocations where no work was to be conducted)? All of these are not God's 4th commandment and can fall on any day of the week.

Also I believe your confused in stating that the "Shadow laws" from the MOSAIC BOOK of the covenant *EXODUS 24:7; HEBREWS 10:1-12 which was the work of MOSES that was written and spoken by MOSES as directed by God are the same as God's eternal Law *NEHEMIAH 10:29 which was the work of God alone, written with the finger of God on tables of stone and spoken by God alone *EXODUS 32:16; EXODUS 20:1-17. The purpose of God's LAW (10 commandments) is to give us the knowledge of Good and Evil; Sin and Righteousness *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. According to the scriptures I believe that God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20 and just like anyone of God's 10 commandments if we knowingly break it we stand guilty before God of sin.

Sin will keep all those who knowingly practice is out of God's kingdom because those doing so count the blood of the covenant an unholy thing doing despite to the Spirit of God *HEBREWS 10:26-39 and as the scriptures teach if we continue in known unrepentant sin when we have been given a knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin but a fearful looking forward to of the judgment to come which shall devour the adversaries *HEBREWS 10:26-27.

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says God's 4th commandment has been broken and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day. This is a man made teaching and tradition that has lead many to break the commandments of God. JESUS warns us in MATTHEW 15:2-9 that those who knowingly follow man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God are not following God.

I believe God's people are in every church living up to all the knowledge of God's Word that God has revealed to them *JOHN 10:16. The scriptures teach however that the hour is coming and now is however that God's true whorsippers will whorship him in Spirit and in truth for God is a Spirit and they who whoship Him must whorship him in Spirit and in truth *JOHN 4:23-24. God is calling His people out where ever they may be to whorship Him according to the pure Word of God *REVELATION 18:1-5.

Many are called but few will be chosen *MATHEW 22:14 for whde is the gate that leads to destruction and many go in there at but narrow is the gate that leads to life and few there be that find it *MATTHEW 7:13-14.

God's Sheep hear His Voice (the Word of God) and follow Him. Those who do not hear his Voice do not follow according to the scriptures *JOHN 10:26-27.

Hope this clears up any misunderstanding you may have.
 
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No. I mean exactly what I posted earlier in the scriptures I posted to you. We are not to cherry pick the scriptures or parts of the bible we like and disregard things we do not like. As posted earlier your list is inadequate as according to the scriptures we are to live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. MATTHEW 4:4; 2 TIMOTHY 3:16. In times of ignorance God winks at but when he gives us a knowledge of the truth calls us to believe and follow His Word *ACTS 17:30-31; ACTS 5:29.

As to your claims of Colossians 2:14-17? I believe you are misinterpreting these scripture which are in reference and context to the annual feast days and their sabbath plural that are connected to feast days and days and days of holy convocation that can fall on any day of the week, which have nothing to do with God's 4th commandment weekly Sabbath. This can be clearly shown through the scripture and chapter context your leaving out.

I believe Colossians 2:14-17 has nothing to do with God's 4th commandment weekly seventh day Sabbath and your misinterpreting these scriptures. It is talking about the annual ceremonial sabbath plural connected to the annual feast days (Feast of trumpets, Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles and judging others. This is demonstrated in the old and new testament scriptures that Paul is quoting from fulfilled in Christ and God's plan of salvation in the new covenant (scriptures provided starting here linked). You do know there are many kinds of Sabbaths beside Gods 4th commandment seventh day weekly Sabbath of God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandment right (the sabbaths in yearly feastivals; Jubilee sabbath, sabbath of the land and days of holy convocations where no work was to be conducted)? All of these are not God's 4th commandment and can fall on any day of the week.

Also I believe your confused in stating that the "Shadow laws" from the MOSAIC BOOK of the covenant *EXODUS 24:7; HEBREWS 10:1-12 which was the work of MOSES that was written and spoken by MOSES as directed by God are the same as God's eternal Law *NEHEMIAH 10:29 which was the work of God alone, written with the finger of God on tables of stone and spoken by God alone *EXODUS 32:16; EXODUS 20:1-17. The purpose of God's LAW (10 commandments) is to give us the knowledge of Good and Evil; Sin and Righteousness *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. According to the scriptures I believe that God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20 and just like anyone of God's 10 commandments if we knowingly break it we stand guilty before God of sin.

Sin will keep all those who knowingly practice is out of God's kingdom because those doing so count the blood of the covenant an unholy thing doing despite to the Spirit of God *HEBREWS 10:26-39 and as the scriptures teach if we continue in known unrepentant sin when we have been given a knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sin but a fearful looking forward to of the judgment to come which shall devour the adversaries *HEBREWS 10:26-27.

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says God's 4th commandment has been broken and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day. This is a man made teaching and tradition that has lead many to break the commandments of God. JESUS warns us in MATTHEW 15:2-9 that those who knowingly follow man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God are not following God.

I believe God's people are in every church living up to all the knowledge of God's Word that God has revealed to them *JOHN 10:16. The scriptures teach however that the hour is coming and now is however that God's true whorsippers will whorship him in Spirit and in truth for God is a Spirit and they who whoship Him must whorship him in Spirit and in truth *JOHN 4:23-24. God is calling His people out where ever they may be to whorship Him according to the pure Word of God *REVELATION 18:1-5.

Many are called but few will be chosen *MATHEW 22:14 for whde is the gate that leads to destruction and many go in there at but narrow is the gate that leads to life and few there be that find it *MATTHEW 7:13-14.

God's Sheep hear His Voice (the Word of God) and follow Him. Those who do not hear his Voice do not follow according to the scriptures *JOHN 10:26-27.

Again, criticism of what I believe the Bible says is not the discussion of this thread. Not going to debate the Saturday Sabbath with you because that is not the topic of this thread. You appear to love debating how we are still under the Law of Moses. This is not the thread for that. Create your own thread for that. I am not even remotely interested in debating the Saturday Sabbath issue with you because the Scriptures are clear we are not under the Saturday Sabbath anymore. Yeah, I know. You love talking about it. Not interested. Not gonna even look at your posts that talk of the Saturday Sabbath.

As for Ellen G. White: Well, I am curious if all SDA's follow her or not. Do you follow the writings of Ellen G. White? Do you think she was a true prophet? Do you believe everything she taught?

In any case, please put forth your own list of reasons of what you believe are the BIG essential things that a Christian must believe.

Note: Some of these can be salvation issues, and some of these things can be simply really really important to our faith and walk with God.
 
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Not going to debate the Saturday Sabbath with you. You appear to love debating how we are still under the Law of Moses. This is not the thread for that. Nor am I interested in debating it with you because the Scriptures are clear we are not under the Saturday Sabbath anymore.

Again, do you follow the writings of Ellen G. White? Do you think she was a true prophet? Do you believe everything she taught?

Not really my dear friend. No one is "UNDER THE LAW" if we have repented and been forgiven for all of our sins. According to ROMANS 3:19 we are only "UNDER THE LAW" if we stand before God guilty of breaking the law as the role of God's LAW *ROMANS 3:20 is to give us a knowledge of what sin is when it is broken and to lead us to Christ that we might seek His forgiveness through faith *GALATIANS 3:22-25. I follow the Word of God alone as is evidenced through the posts I share with you. Who we believe and follow is determined by our fruits as JESUS says by their fruits you shall know them *MATTHEW 7:16-20. This is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:9-10.
 
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Not really my dear friend. No one is "UNDER THE LAW" if we have repented and been forgiven for all of our sins. According to ROMANS 3:19 we are only "UNDER THE LAW" if we stand before God guilty of breaking the law as the role of God's LAW *ROMANS 3:20 is to give us a knowledge of what sin is when it is broken and to lead us to Christ that we might seek His forgiveness through faith *GALATIANS 3:22-25. I follow the bible and the Word of God alone as is evidenced through the posts I share with you. Who we believe and follow is determined by our fruit as JESUS says by their fruits you shall know them *MATTHEW 7:16-20.

So a Christian does not have to keep the Saturday Sabbath? A Christian is not under the 613 Laws of Moses as a whole package deal? I believe we look to the New Testament primarily to keep God's commands.

If so, I agree.
 
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So a Christian does not have to keep the Saturday Sabbath? A Christian is not under the 613 Laws of Moses as a whole package deal? I believe we look to the New Testament primarily to keep God's commands. If so, I agree.

May I suggest you read the post you are responding to. Your response has nothing to do with what you are quoting from. The "shadow laws" of MOSES *HEBREWS 10:1-12 are not God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4 and if we break any one of God's 10 commandments according to the scriptures we stand guilty before God of sin and "UNDER THE LAW" guilty before God of breaking them. *ROMANS 3:29. How many commandments are their in God's 10 commandments according to the scriptures; 9, 10 or 613 *EXODUS 20:1-17; EXODUS 34:28; DEUTERONOMY 4:13; DEUTERONOMY 10:4 ?
 
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