Humanity is facing a catastrophe

JacksBratt · Mar 19, 2020

OldWiseGuy said:
They could buy back their stock, and become private companies. They can issue bonds if they need more money. Problem solved.

You make much more money.... using other peoples money.. You can give yourself big bonus's, pay yourself measly salaries to avoid income tax... live off of a company trust...

Big companies don't want to invest in themselves.. They want to live off of their greed.. They also don't have the funds that it takes.

Blade · Mar 19, 2020

For some the sky is falling.. yet.. its beautiful out side. Is this how faith talks? Aka GOD?

Maria Billingsley · Mar 19, 2020

Done222 said:
I’m not talking about the virus; the virus is an inconvenience compared to what’s coming.

After the 2018 financial crisis, central banks responded by lowering interest rates. With those low rates, corporations have been borrowing more and more money to buy their company’s stock in order to increase the stock price in order to increase the bonuses of the corporate executives. In other words, corporate executives have gotten rich putting the large companies they manage in jeopardy.

Now the revenue for many corporations is going to decrease significantly and many will not be able to service their debts. Most of these debts are held by banks. This is why bank stocks are dropping so much. The central banks will bailout the banks again, but corporate debt is now massive and that’s without even looking at derivatives.

It's not just corporate debt, it is also government debt and consumer debt.

This goes back for decades. Our corporations sent the manufacturing jobs to China where low-paid Chinese workers cannot afford to buy the goods they produce. Because of the loss of all the manufacturing jobs, Americans cannot afford to buy all the consumer goods either, except through government and consumer debt.

This is not sustainable.

In 2008, we reached the end of the line.

The Federal Reserve solved the problem by lowering the interest rate and increasing debt. This didn’t solve anything, it only allowed us to party for a few years more.

Theologically, it is interesting that humanity is about to be brought down by debt. It is also amazing how the central banks, the executives, the media, everyone has watched all these large companies becoming more and more vulnerable, without being able to see the coming collapse. It is inevitable that a shock to the economy would come along. Coronavirus is merely the spark that is about to set off the bomb that our corporate and political leaders have built. It’s clearly a bomb, they’ve been building it for years, but they can’t see it’s a bomb as they keep adding more and more explosive. Government debt, consumer debt, and corporate debt, you can't just keep borrowing more and more money.

This coming catastrophe seems to be punishment from God, as so many smart people cannot see what they should be able to see.

And what did Jesus Christ of Nazareth tell us about money?
Be blessed and be informed.

lismore · Mar 19, 2020

Lost4words said:
How did people hide from the Romans? The plague, the nazis?

In more recent times people have seen a huge fulfillment of biblical prophecy that those who hid from Romans and Nazis did not see in their day- the promised return of the Jews to Israel. God Bless

Norbert L · Mar 19, 2020

Done222 said:
This coming catastrophe seems to be punishment from God, as so many smart people cannot see what they should be able to see.

What if we're just like the very first believers and likewise many more centuries need to happen before Jesus returns?

As far as I can tell we don't know anymore than the first century Christians knew about when Christ would return. Nobody here on these forums or on world wide news is claiming Jesus had just talked to them and told us the end is coming.

OldWiseGuy · Mar 19, 2020

parousia70 said:
Wait... So Hitler was Doing God's Righteous Work?

really?

God has always used other nations to punish Israel, then he punishes them.

d taylor · Mar 19, 2020

Kill the corporations, America is not a democracy it is a corporation.

Just one of the many lies you are told in school

Brian Mcnamee · Mar 19, 2020

Hi great observations on the Fed and stocks and insight into this being projected out over time and the potentially devastating consequences that it has the potential to set forth. I have wondered about things like Rev 6 3 When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, “Come and see.” 4 Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth, and that people should kill one another; and there was given to him a great sword. When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come and see.” So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine.” 7 When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come and see.” 8 So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth. This virus by itself would could not produce these effects but coupled with a economic collapse that may end in global hyper-inflation sure would do it. Jesus warned the end times would be like a snare that comes upon the earth. And so too this is a global situation both with the virus and economically. The economic collapse based on a pyramid style debt system was already nearing its tipping point. This virus is the perfect scapegoat so that the real reason for a global crash is not them and they will be poised to blame, cash and nations states and all sorts of the NWO agenda and out of the ashes rises the Phoenix.
If we are nearing the tribulation what should we expect to see? Dan 8
3 “And in the latter time of their kingdom,
When the transgressors have reached their fullness,
A king shall arise,
Having fierce features,
Who understands sinister schemes.
24 His power shall be mighty, but not by his own power;
He shall destroy fearfully,
And shall prosper and thrive;
He shall destroy the mighty, and also the holy people.
25 “Through his cunning
He shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule;[fn]
And he shall exalt himself in his heart.
He shall destroy many in their prosperity.
He shall even rise against the Prince of princes;
But he shall be broken without human means.[fn]
26 “And the vision of the evenings and mornings
Which was told is true;
Therefore seal up the vision,
For it refers to many days in the future.”

Psalm 2 also speaks of a plot among the nations.
Why do the nations rage,
And the people plot a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves,
And the rulers take counsel together,
Against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying,
3 “Let us break Their bonds in pieces
And cast away Their cords from us.”
4 He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
The Lord shall hold them in derision.
5 Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
And distress them in His deep displeasure:
6 “Yet I have set My King
On My holy hill of Zion.”
7 “I will declare the decree:
The LORD has said to Me,
‘You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You.
8 Ask of Me, and I will give You
The nations for Your inheritance,
And the ends of the earth for Your possession.
9 You shall break[fn] them with a rod of iron;
You shall dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’ ”

If this is not leading directly to the NWO aka kingdom of antichrist it certainly is a dress rehearsal.

Douggg · Mar 19, 2020

From a biblical standpoint, I think the financial crisis amid the virus panic mania - fueled no less than the press - could be the catalyst that the EU reforms it government to the ten leader form with one leader over them and over all in the EU - the little horn person.

Richard T · Mar 20, 2020

Done222 said:
I’m not talking about the virus; the virus is an inconvenience compared to what’s coming.

After the 2018 financial crisis, central banks responded by lowering interest rates. With those low rates, corporations have been borrowing more and more money to buy their company’s stock in order to increase the stock price in order to increase the bonuses of the corporate executives. In other words, corporate executives have gotten rich putting the large companies they manage in jeopardy.

Now the revenue for many corporations is going to decrease significantly and many will not be able to service their debts. Most of these debts are held by banks. This is why bank stocks are dropping so much. The central banks will bailout the banks again, but corporate debt is now massive and that’s without even looking at derivatives.

It's not just corporate debt, it is also government debt and consumer debt.

This goes back for decades. Our corporations sent the manufacturing jobs to China where low-paid Chinese workers cannot afford to buy the goods they produce. Because of the loss of all the manufacturing jobs, Americans cannot afford to buy all the consumer goods either, except through government and consumer debt.

This is not sustainable.

In 2008, we reached the end of the line.

The Federal Reserve solved the problem by lowering the interest rate and increasing debt. This didn’t solve anything, it only allowed us to party for a few years more.

Theologically, it is interesting that humanity is about to be brought down by debt. It is also amazing how the central banks, the executives, the media, everyone has watched all these large companies becoming more and more vulnerable, without being able to see the coming collapse. It is inevitable that a shock to the economy would come along. Coronavirus is merely the spark that is about to set off the bomb that our corporate and political leaders have built. It’s clearly a bomb, they’ve been building it for years, but they can’t see it’s a bomb as they keep adding more and more explosive. Government debt, consumer debt, and corporate debt, you can't just keep borrowing more and more money.

This coming catastrophe seems to be punishment from God, as so many smart people cannot see what they should be able to see.

Brian Mcnamee · Mar 20, 2020

Douggg said:
From a biblical standpoint, I think the financial crisis amid the virus panic mania - fueled no less than the press - could be the catalyst that the EU reforms it government to the ten leader form with one leader over them and over all in the EU - the little horn person.

Doug the idea that the EU would rise and end up with 10 nations that would rule the world is an interpretation from the 80's that has stuck around for a long time. The 10 toes or horns are going to be under the beast and have dominion over the whole earth. It is now far more likely that the 10 toes are 10 heads of EU like confederations or regional leaders. The club of rome and some UN strategist already have maps with 10 such zones in it. I do not see 10 nations of Europe telling China the US South America what to do,, In fact all the nations are bankrupt at the same time and there is no ascendancy of Europe that was predicted as well as an Isolated US demise.

lsume · Mar 20, 2020

Done222 said:
I’m not talking about the virus; the virus is an inconvenience compared to what’s coming.

After the 2018 financial crisis, central banks responded by lowering interest rates. With those low rates, corporations have been borrowing more and more money to buy their company’s stock in order to increase the stock price in order to increase the bonuses of the corporate executives. In other words, corporate executives have gotten rich putting the large companies they manage in jeopardy.

Now the revenue for many corporations is going to decrease significantly and many will not be able to service their debts. Most of these debts are held by banks. This is why bank stocks are dropping so much. The central banks will bailout the banks again, but corporate debt is now massive and that’s without even looking at derivatives.

It's not just corporate debt, it is also government debt and consumer debt.

This goes back for decades. Our corporations sent the manufacturing jobs to China where low-paid Chinese workers cannot afford to buy the goods they produce. Because of the loss of all the manufacturing jobs, Americans cannot afford to buy all the consumer goods either, except through government and consumer debt.

This is not sustainable.

In 2008, we reached the end of the line.

The Federal Reserve solved the problem by lowering the interest rate and increasing debt. This didn’t solve anything, it only allowed us to party for a few years more.

Theologically, it is interesting that humanity is about to be brought down by debt. It is also amazing how the central banks, the executives, the media, everyone has watched all these large companies becoming more and more vulnerable, without being able to see the coming collapse. It is inevitable that a shock to the economy would come along. Coronavirus is merely the spark that is about to set off the bomb that our corporate and political leaders have built. It’s clearly a bomb, they’ve been building it for years, but they can’t see it’s a bomb as they keep adding more and more explosive. Government debt, consumer debt, and corporate debt, you can't just keep borrowing more and more money.

This coming catastrophe seems to be punishment from God, as so many smart people cannot see what they should be able to see.

Based on what I have been taught about economics, stocks are highly overvalued and have been for a long time. America is broken because of the divisiveness that exists. A house divided against itself cannot stand as you surly know.

parousia70 · Mar 20, 2020

OldWiseGuy said:
God has always used other nations to punish Israel, then he punishes them.

Rather, in A. D. 70. the wrath of God against the Jews came to the utmost (I Thess. 2:16; Heb. 10:26-31) and they paid the price for their Messianic blood-guilt to the last penny BACK THEN (Lk. 12:54-59).

Teaching that the Jews somehow needed to be punished further by God after that is not based on any scripture, but only on personal bias against them.

OldWiseGuy · Mar 20, 2020

parousia70 said:
Rather, in A. D. 70. the wrath of God against the Jews came to the utmost (I Thess. 2:16; Heb. 10:26-31) and they paid the price for their Messianic blood-guilt to the last penny BACK THEN (Lk. 12:54-59).

Teaching that the Jews somehow needed to be punished further by God after that is not based on any scripture, but only on personal bias against them.

God's curse against the Jews as described in Ezekiel 5 has never been rescinded to my knowledge.

Also it might put the Holocaust into perspective if you consider that while the Jews suffered 6 million deaths the war killed 64-74 million others, mostly non-combatants, from nearly every nation on earth.

World War II casualties - Wikipedia

Lazarus Short · Mar 20, 2020

Outside the Scriptures, the wisest words on the world's predicament that I know of: History does not change because the human heart does not change.

Douggg · Mar 20, 2020

Brian Mcnamee said:
Doug the idea that the EU would rise and end up with 10 nations that would rule the world is an interpretation from the 80's that has stuck around for a long time. The 10 toes or horns are going to be under the beast and have dominion over the whole earth. It is now far more likely that the 10 toes are 10 heads of EU like confederations or regional leaders. The club of rome and some UN strategist already have maps with 10 such zones in it. I do not see 10 nations of Europe telling China the US South America what to do,, In fact all the nations are bankrupt at the same time and there is no ascendancy of Europe that was predicted as well as an Isolated US demise.

Ten EU zones, not ten EU nations.

Globally, at the time of the last 42 months, it appears to me that the world will align itself by nations of the East, the South, the North, the West. The dominant of those alliances would be the West - the EU, and its allies the U.S., Canada, Australia.

parousia70 · Mar 20, 2020

OldWiseGuy said:
God's curse against the Jews as described in Ezekiel 5 has never been rescinded to my knowledge.

Rescinded? No.
Fulfilled? Yes.

Luke 21:22
For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

Josheb · Mar 20, 2020

Done222 said:
Humanity is facing a catastrophe.

Done222, meet Davy

Josheb · Mar 20, 2020

Done222 said:
Now the revenue for many corporations is going to decrease significantly and many will not be able to service their debts... The central banks will bailout the banks again...

DO you realize these are the only two events you've said will happen so far? Everything else in the post was exposition.

Done222 said:
Theologically, it is interesting that humanity is about to be brought down by debt...

This coming catastrophe seems to be punishment from God, as so many smart people cannot see what they should be able to see.

"Humanity" will be "brought down" by debt? What, exactly, do you mean by "brought down"?

Theologically speaking, what can be lower than complete depravity and dead in enslaving sin?

When, exactly, or a specifically as you can say, will this happen? Next year? Two years? Five? Ten? Twenty?

Ricky M · Mar 20, 2020

Done222 said:
Theologically, it is interesting that humanity is about to be brought down by debt.

We were told thousands of years ago the various economies would fail and be replaced by a global one. That this could happen should not surprise anyone.

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