Humanity is facing a catastrophe

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I’m not talking about the virus; the virus is an inconvenience compared to what’s coming.

After the 2018 financial crisis, central banks responded by lowering interest rates. With those low rates, corporations have been borrowing more and more money to buy their company’s stock in order to increase the stock price in order to increase the bonuses of the corporate executives. In other words, corporate executives have gotten rich putting the large companies they manage in jeopardy.

Now the revenue for many corporations is going to decrease significantly and many will not be able to service their debts. Most of these debts are held by banks. This is why bank stocks are dropping so much. The central banks will bailout the banks again, but corporate debt is now massive and that’s without even looking at derivatives.

It's not just corporate debt, it is also government debt and consumer debt.

This goes back for decades. Our corporations sent the manufacturing jobs to China where low-paid Chinese workers cannot afford to buy the goods they produce. Because of the loss of all the manufacturing jobs, Americans cannot afford to buy all the consumer goods either, except through government and consumer debt.

This is not sustainable.

In 2008, we reached the end of the line.

The Federal Reserve solved the problem by lowering the interest rate and increasing debt. This didn’t solve anything, it only allowed us to party for a few years more.

Theologically, it is interesting that humanity is about to be brought down by debt. It is also amazing how the central banks, the executives, the media, everyone has watched all these large companies becoming more and more vulnerable, without being able to see the coming collapse. It is inevitable that a shock to the economy would come along. Coronavirus is merely the spark that is about to set off the bomb that our corporate and political leaders have built. It’s clearly a bomb, they’ve been building it for years, but they can’t see it’s a bomb as they keep adding more and more explosive. Government debt, consumer debt, and corporate debt, you can't just keep borrowing more and more money.

This coming catastrophe seems to be punishment from God, as so many smart people cannot see what they should be able to see.
World economies have to collapse to make room for the one-world economy.
 
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I’m not talking about the virus; the virus is an inconvenience compared to what’s coming.

After the 2018 financial crisis, central banks responded by lowering interest rates. With those low rates, corporations have been borrowing more and more money to buy their company’s stock in order to increase the stock price in order to increase the bonuses of the corporate executives. In other words, corporate executives have gotten rich putting the large companies they manage in jeopardy.

Now the revenue for many corporations is going to decrease significantly and many will not be able to service their debts. Most of these debts are held by banks. This is why bank stocks are dropping so much. The central banks will bailout the banks again, but corporate debt is now massive and that’s without even looking at derivatives.

It's not just corporate debt, it is also government debt and consumer debt.

This goes back for decades. Our corporations sent the manufacturing jobs to China where low-paid Chinese workers cannot afford to buy the goods they produce. Because of the loss of all the manufacturing jobs, Americans cannot afford to buy all the consumer goods either, except through government and consumer debt.

This is not sustainable.

In 2008, we reached the end of the line.

The Federal Reserve solved the problem by lowering the interest rate and increasing debt. This didn’t solve anything, it only allowed us to party for a few years more.

Theologically, it is interesting that humanity is about to be brought down by debt. It is also amazing how the central banks, the executives, the media, everyone has watched all these large companies becoming more and more vulnerable, without being able to see the coming collapse. It is inevitable that a shock to the economy would come along. Coronavirus is merely the spark that is about to set off the bomb that our corporate and political leaders have built. It’s clearly a bomb, they’ve been building it for years, but they can’t see it’s a bomb as they keep adding more and more explosive. Government debt, consumer debt, and corporate debt, you can't just keep borrowing more and more money.

This coming catastrophe seems to be punishment from God, as so many smart people cannot see what they should be able to see.

If businesses go bankrupt over this, then they'll be emergency loans to help get them back on their feet. For example, airlines. It's something a nation needs. However, if you have a local restaurant or chain, then it may not qualify. Those are the chances you took when you got into the business. If we in this for the next 18 months as that is how they set a timeline for pandemics, then it will cause hardships. No doubt. However, we should be able to develop some kind of way to fight the pandemic. Our bodies and brains are gifts from God, so we can find ways to combat this.

If you are referring to end times, then I don't think this is it. We are dealing with a virus that evolved through natural selection and that is part of God's gifts. We should be able to figure it out.
 
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How did people hide from the Romans? The plague, the nazis?

The church fled from the Romans to the 'wilderness' 'on eagles wings'. WW2 was God punishing Israel. Today there is no wilderness to flee to. The plague was a wake up call for Europe to stop living like pigs (with apologies to the pigs). Without the plague God couldn't begin to bless Israel (imo). At the time it was a modern day purifying 'flood'.

All the above my opinion of course.
 
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The church fled from the Romans to the 'wilderness' 'on eagles wings'. WW2 was God punishing Israel. Today there is no wilderness to flee to. The plague was a wake up call for Europe to stop living like pigs (with apologies to the pigs). Without the plague God couldn't begin to bless Israel (imo). At the time it was a modern day flood.

All the above my opinion of course.
Your points are well made. Maybe this plague will wake up the sleeping church.
 
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The church fled from the Romans to the 'wilderness' 'on eagles wings'. WW2 was God punishing Israel. Today there is no wilderness to flee to. The plague was a wake up call for Europe to stop living like pigs (with apologies to the pigs). Without the plague God couldn't begin to bless Israel (imo). At the time it was a modern day purifying 'flood'.

All the above my opinion of course.

Yes, i agree. Opinions
 
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God has NOTHING to do with it.
Summerville, I agree.

God does not punish like this. This is simply the result of greed. The OP explained it pretty well. I am no expert, but the main idea is that the few get rich off of the backs of the many until the whole thing collapses in on itself.

In most work places in the 50's and 60's, wages increased with inflation. Today, inflation could increase 100% and wages would increase 10%.

The companies are slaves to the investors. The companies must pay their workers. However the investors demand more and more profit and the managers can only do this by diminished wages. They do this by avoiding raises that are equivalent to the cost of living.

If they cannot get enough profit by that means.. then they cut employment numbers and expect the same output.

This is not punishment from God.. it is the simple result of sinful greed. The virus, is just a part of a fallen world. Sure, it will hurt everyone economically.

But, we are living in the end times. Civilized systems of government and commerce eventually burn themselves out.. Ours is no different.

Thing is... the next thing that they will do to try to save this one.. is a cashless society.. The way they will do this is with the mark.

Maranatha.
 
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I’m not talking about the virus; the virus is an inconvenience compared to what’s coming.

After the 2018 financial crisis, central banks responded by lowering interest rates. With those low rates, corporations have been borrowing more and more money to buy their company’s stock in order to increase the stock price in order to increase the bonuses of the corporate executives. In other words, corporate executives have gotten rich putting the large companies they manage in jeopardy.

Now the revenue for many corporations is going to decrease significantly and many will not be able to service their debts. Most of these debts are held by banks. This is why bank stocks are dropping so much. The central banks will bailout the banks again, but corporate debt is now massive and that’s without even looking at derivatives.

It's not just corporate debt, it is also government debt and consumer debt.

This goes back for decades. Our corporations sent the manufacturing jobs to China where low-paid Chinese workers cannot afford to buy the goods they produce. Because of the loss of all the manufacturing jobs, Americans cannot afford to buy all the consumer goods either, except through government and consumer debt.

This is not sustainable.

In 2008, we reached the end of the line.

The Federal Reserve solved the problem by lowering the interest rate and increasing debt. This didn’t solve anything, it only allowed us to party for a few years more.

Theologically, it is interesting that humanity is about to be brought down by debt. It is also amazing how the central banks, the executives, the media, everyone has watched all these large companies becoming more and more vulnerable, without being able to see the coming collapse. It is inevitable that a shock to the economy would come along. Coronavirus is merely the spark that is about to set off the bomb that our corporate and political leaders have built. It’s clearly a bomb, they’ve been building it for years, but they can’t see it’s a bomb as they keep adding more and more explosive. Government debt, consumer debt, and corporate debt, you can't just keep borrowing more and more money.

This coming catastrophe seems to be punishment from God, as so many smart people cannot see what they should be able to see.

There are a lot of smart people that knew this was going to happen at least a a decade ago. The recent drop in the market was a simple correction. If the market doesn't continue to drop to at least 14,000, it will crash in September/October.

It's way too late to do anything, and it was inevitable before the virus - although as said, it did provide the necessary excuse to relieve the incredible pressure of inflation and artificially low interest rates.
 
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I guess we all , as Christians, need to spend more time with our Bibles with the Holy Spirit as many of us have the time right now.

We say this every generation and we are always swindled by Enemy because of our short-sightedness. There will be one generation (maybe ours) where it is too late to "try" - as the things we were already warned about are set in motion.
 
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We say this every generation and we are always swindled by Enemy because of our short-sightedness. There will be one generation (maybe ours) where it is too late to "try" - as the things we were already warned about are set in motion.

It is never too late to get back into to the Word until we die.
 
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The companies are slaves to the investors. The companies must pay their workers. However the investors demand more and more profit and the managers can only do this by diminished wages. They do this by avoiding raises that are equivalent to the cost of living.

They could buy back their stock, and become private companies. They can issue bonds if they need more money. Problem solved.
 
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It is never too late to get back into to the Word until we die.

The Word of the Most High - of course it isn't too late if you are alive.

But, the market? It's too late.

The prevention of the enemy? Too late.
 
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The Word of the Most High - of course it isn't too late if you are alive.

But, the market? It's too late.

The prevention of the enemy? Too late.

All the money that is disappearing from the market will return with a vengeance once this things is over. The pent-up demand will be incredible. The relief will bring a worldwide giddiness unknown since WW2.
 
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All the money that is disappearing from the market will return with a vengeance once this things is over. The pent-up demand will be incredible. The relief will bring a worldwide giddiness unknown since WW2.

The only way it will return with a vengeance is if we have another world war to generate the revenue that will replace the near virtual currency we keep printing.

That is how America got out of the Great Depression, 1987 recession, and the 2000/01 tech bubble. We haven't gotten out of the 2008 "recession" yet because there hasn't been a major war to cover our debt. People have been floating on a cloud of US CREDIT, and it is about to rain.

The alternative (without war) is repeating the same things we did before and letting the future generation(s) handle it - not a bad idea considering it has been done for at least 100 years.
 
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I’m not talking about the virus; the virus is an inconvenience compared to what’s coming.

After the 2018 financial crisis, central banks responded by lowering interest rates. With those low rates, corporations have been borrowing more and more money to buy their company’s stock in order to increase the stock price in order to increase the bonuses of the corporate executives. In other words, corporate executives have gotten rich putting the large companies they manage in jeopardy.

Now the revenue for many corporations is going to decrease significantly and many will not be able to service their debts. Most of these debts are held by banks. This is why bank stocks are dropping so much. The central banks will bailout the banks again, but corporate debt is now massive and that’s without even looking at derivatives.

It's not just corporate debt, it is also government debt and consumer debt.

This goes back for decades. Our corporations sent the manufacturing jobs to China where low-paid Chinese workers cannot afford to buy the goods they produce. Because of the loss of all the manufacturing jobs, Americans cannot afford to buy all the consumer goods either, except through government and consumer debt.

This is not sustainable.

In 2008, we reached the end of the line.

The Federal Reserve solved the problem by lowering the interest rate and increasing debt. This didn’t solve anything, it only allowed us to party for a few years more.

Theologically, it is interesting that humanity is about to be brought down by debt. It is also amazing how the central banks, the executives, the media, everyone has watched all these large companies becoming more and more vulnerable, without being able to see the coming collapse. It is inevitable that a shock to the economy would come along. Coronavirus is merely the spark that is about to set off the bomb that our corporate and political leaders have built. It’s clearly a bomb, they’ve been building it for years, but they can’t see it’s a bomb as they keep adding more and more explosive. Government debt, consumer debt, and corporate debt, you can't just keep borrowing more and more money.

This coming catastrophe seems to be punishment from God, as so many smart people cannot see what they should be able to see.
The love of money is the root of all evil. It makes the world go around. The people of God do not have to rely on the world system. We have a great opportunity to trust our God to meet our needs. These He meets according to His riches in Christ Jesus (Philippians 4:19).

This great promise is conditional. It applies to those who have been living in Kingdom principles, not the world. If we have been giving to those in need, ensuring that that our giving is as generous as we can be, then we are in a position to be blessed. Those who hoard and decide not to give will have to rely on the world's economy. The OP is right, it is a time bomb. No one knows how long before it goes off. Change of analogy, how much air can you pump into a balloon before it explodes? One thing is for sure. It cannot go on forever.
 
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