How can we differentiate Jesus and the Anti-christ?

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So that is not about politicians or world bankers. It is about a supernatural working on earth, miracles and wonders like our Lord Jesus would do.
Why would it have to be supernatural. Look at the frenzy over Trump as a minuscule example of what people look to. Anti-Christ is a system of man that serves self, perhaps at end of days to the extreme. Make adversarial man great again.

Christ promoted a system that serves others. You don't see the same frenzy over anyone promoting that. People are leery of things with no strings attached.
 
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2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. 3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is [b]a debtor to keep the whole law. 4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

In Galatians there are some who are trying to compel the gentile believers that they need to be circumcised. They have become a clique so that Paul calls them "they of the circumcision". This creates a problem, am I saved because of Christ's death on the cross or because of the sign given to Abraham of circumcision. The answer requires a thorough understanding of the work Jesus did on the cross. Understanding the work Jesus did on the cross would keep you safe from false prophets who want to separate you from Jesus Christ, and who want to make you a debtor.
 
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The answer requires a thorough understanding of the work Jesus did on the cross. Understanding the work Jesus did on the cross would keep you safe from false prophets who want to separate you from Jesus Christ, and who want to make you a debtor.
Or it was simply stopping the tradition of proselyting in order to separate Paul's converts from Judaism. Either Paul wanted to keep Judaism pure or gentiles wanted to distance themselves from Judaism.
 
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That's the Antichrist. Jesus showed he will work great signs and wonders that IF it were possible, would deceive even His very elect. So that is not about politicians or world bankers. It is about a supernatural working on earth, miracles and wonders like our Lord Jesus would do.
Yet politicians and world bankers not only are deceiving Christians, they are also deceived themselves, so ? Christ's or anti-christ's?
 
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Or it was simply stopping the tradition of proselyting in order to separate Paul's converts from Judaism. Either Paul wanted to keep Judaism pure or gentiles wanted to distance themselves from Judaism.
OR the Jews/ identified as Judaizers/ wanted to deceive Jews and gentiles with a false gospel, unchanged from then thru today, except both Jews and gentiles in false gospels both are doing all they can to get others to fall into the way of destruction also.
 
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Or it was simply stopping the tradition of proselyting in order to separate Paul's converts from Judaism. Either Paul wanted to keep Judaism pure or gentiles wanted to distance themselves from Judaism.
How do you reconcile that theory with Gal 3:28 There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female; for ye all are one manin Christ Jesus.
 
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How do you reconcile that theory with Gal 3:28 There can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female; for ye all are one manin Christ Jesus.
Always been two types within Christianity. Those who seek separation among each other and from God, and those who understand their oneness with God and each other.
 
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Always been two types within Christianity. Those who seek separation among each other and from God, and those who understand their oneness with God and each other.
Yes but Paul's teaching was that they all needed to be one.
 
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Why would it have to be supernatural. Look at the frenzy over Trump as a minuscule example of what people look to. Anti-Christ is a system of man that serves self, perhaps at end of days to the extreme. Make adversarial man great again.

Christ promoted a system that serves others. You don't see the same frenzy over anyone promoting that. People are leery of things with no strings attached.

Why would it have to be supernatural?? Because of what our Lord Jesus forewarned about it in Matthew 24:24 especially...

Matt 24:24
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

KJV

Firstly, the whole context of the Matthew 24:23-26 verses is about a coming singular pseudo-Christ. The KJV phrase "false Christs" is just the Greek word pseudochristos, from 2 Greek words -- pseudo meaning false, and christos meaning Christ singular. This is why Dr. James Strong translated pseudochristos to 'a spurious Messiah' in his Strong's Concordance (Strong's no. 5580).

Secondly, and markedly, by that phrase in red above our Lord Jesus showed how powerful a deception those "great signs and wonders" are meant. His very elect are sealed by The Holy Spirit for the tribulation, and that means they cannot... be deceived. I know the majority of Churches do not even teach about the delivering up of some of Christ's Church at the end to give a Testimony by The Holy Spirit, but that was well covered by our Lord Jesus there in His Olivet discourse also (Mark 13:9-13; Revelation 6:9-11). Why is this point important you might wonder?

It's because if those great signs and wonders would have to be so powerful as to fool even Christ's very elect, they would believe it would have to be who doing them? And in the Greek the word (kai - 2532) is there about those being 'very' or 'even' the elect, pointing to a specific preserved elect, suggesting they have a specific duty by Christ in that time. In other words, Jesus has chosen those for a specific job at the end, and they cannot... be turned from it nor be deceived. So if the miracles the Antichrist will do would 'almost'... deceive them, then what will it do to others not sealed? That is pointing to a supernatural working upon the earth that is going to deceive the whole world (excepting those 'sealed' by The Holy Spirit).

This is why the coming tribulation is not going to be a time of all out war, etc., but a time of world peace and prosperity (Dan.8; Matthew 24:6 "... but the end is not yet."). It will be a tribulation in 2 ways -- firstly it will be a tribulation upon Christ's Church here on earth. And secondly it will be a tribulation upon the deceived and wicked, even while it will be a time of world peace and prosperity on earth, simply because their belief on the coming pseudo-Christ will put their souls in danger of hell fire later.
 
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Yet politicians and world bankers not only are deceiving Christians, they are also deceived themselves, so ? Christ's or anti-christ's?

Politicians and world bankers are not the pseudo-Christ that's to appear in Jerusalem working "great signs and wonders" that if it were possible, would deceive even the very elect.

Christ's elect cannot... be deceived, for they are 'sealed' by The Holy Spirit. Those are a "very elect" He was talking about, meaning chosen for a specific duty at the end. And that is shown by the fact He forewarned in His Olivet discourse also that some brethren would be delivered up to give a Testimony for Him by The Holy Spirit.
 
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Why would it have to be supernatural?? Because of what our Lord Jesus forewarned about
But consider what great signs and wonders are to humans.. stock market revivals, new medications, cheap gas, Indiana Jones 5, etc.

Politicians and world bankers are not the pseudo-Christ that's to appear in Jerusalem working "great signs and wonders"
So restoring Jerusalem as capital would not count.
 
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I assume that he would come in the name of love and actual Christians will be hated because they reject “love” obviously a skewed version of it.

That's what "the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience" does already. Expect more of the same, in ever virulent forms.
 
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Why would it have to be supernatural?? Because of what our Lord Jesus forewarned about it in Matthew 24:24 especially...

Matt 24:24
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

KJV

The antichrist is resuscitated from the dead, a false resurrection.

I am reminded of fools gold, it looks just like Gold, and it also mimics a cubic crystal structure but it is a pseudo or false crystal -- it actually has much lower symmetry than a cube (gold does have a cubic structure).

So how do you tell the difference between the two -- fool's gold is much less dense, and it forms big gaudy crystals while most gold will be finely disseminated in small veins, often hard to see. You can beat gold and it can be beat into very thin sheets, so thin that you can see right through it (they put real gold on windows to block the sun). Also you can burn gold and it will only purify it, but if you burn fools gold it will smell like rotten eggs (it is made of sulfur) and it will shatter.

Fire of judgement only purifies the Lord whereas the false christ is composed of sin.

6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.


The false Christ is a pseudo crystal, Jesus came to fulfill the word of God, the pseudo Christ will not listen to the apostle’s fellowship

6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.


The Lord is malleable, He doesn’t shatter when beaten

7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
 
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But consider what great signs and wonders are to humans.. stock market revivals, new medications, cheap gas, Indiana Jones 5, etc.


So restoring Jerusalem as capital would not count.

A comprehensive reading of the Matthew 24:23-26, 2 Thessalonians 2:4-8, and Revelation 13:11-14 Scriptures reveal that matter isn't about political and financial signs. They are about a fake-Christ coming to work actual miracles on the earth to deceive with. How can anyone interpret fire from heaven coming down upon the earth not as a supernatural event, especially since we are told of that type of event in the OT Books of Genesis 19:24, Leviticus 10:2, 2 Kings 1:10. There is even the sentencing of Satan given in Ezekiel 28 that God is going to bring a fire within him destroying him on earth in the sight of men...

Ezek 28:18
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

KJV
 
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The antichrist is resuscitated from the dead, a false resurrection.

That idea is nowhere written in God's Word. That idea comes from those on a Pre-trib Rapture theory.

It's the kingdom beast with the "seven heads" that suffers the "deadly wound", not the Antichrist who works the miracles.

Rev 13:3
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
KJV


The 2nd beast of Revelation 13:11-18, which is about the coming Antichrist, is a beast king, not the kingdom. Verse 12 shows you it's the 1st beast with "seven heads" that suffers the deadly wound that is healed. That has nothing to do with a resurrection from the dead. Some money-loving preacher came up with that idea to sell it like at a side-show! Wonder how much money that has brought those fakes in their pockets!
 
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