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His way of life He taught was not economic in nature. He did not teach the ways of man, but of the Kingdom. Is there a price on kindness, generosity and charity?

Democratic Socialistic solutions. The price is Taxes.
 
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Jesus doesn't force people to give their money, he wants people to give willingly. Communism... err I mean "Socialism" entails that the government just takes your money and spends it for you. So no, He was not.
So then Democratic Socialistic solutions.
 
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Nothing of man was taught in a positive light, but as contrary to the Kingdom, the will of God.
They be no money in the ways of Jesus Kingdom.....so that be impossible.


Matthew 6:21
Romans 13:8
Hebrews 13:5
Matthew 19:21
1 Timothy 6:17-19
Deuteronomy 15:7
Matthew 6:1-4
Mark 12:41-44
Luke 14:28
 
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Is Jesus a socialist? What evidence do you have that He is or is not?

John 18:36
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world:

Therefore all of your arguments don't hold a drop of water.
 
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Nothing of man was taught in a positive light, but as contrary to the Kingdom, the will of God.

So are these Pro-Christian value programs or Satanic?

1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.

6. Postal Service - Like having mail delivered directly to your front door and paying next to nothing to send mail anywhere you want? Well it's all made possible by socialism.

7. Student Loans and Grants - Did you go to College? If you did, you family might not have been rich enough to pay your way through. So you got your education anyway through student loans and grants from the federal government at taxpayer expense. Of course you have to pay back the loans, but if not the government, did you know anyone else who was going to lend you tens of thousands of dollars? Probably not. So the taxpayers lent you the money and you paid it back with slight interest. The government grants you accepted were gifts from the taxpayer and the federal government that you did not have to pay back. Socialism got you through school.


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#75. Civilization - As an American citizen, you enjoy freedoms that many in other countries do not. Like anything else in this world, our government is not perfect, but you should be thankful everyday that your country has a government that feels an obligation to serve the people and protect their rights and freedoms. This is completely possible because of government, taxes, and socialism. Do you think the private sector would do a better job of governing our country? Do you think corporations would enact laws to help protect and serve you and your family or them and their profits? The reason you can read this blog and the reason I can write it whether you agree with it or not is because of the freedoms we have here in America enforced and protected through socialist means. Our entire civilization depends on us being a people united. Socialism is a glue that binds us together and makes possible the things that we could not accomplish as individuals working against each other.

75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America
 
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So are these Pro-Christian value programs or Satanic?
That would depend on who gains at the expense of others as a result and who doesn't. Duality exist in all aspects of man. Again, Jesus taught a system exclusive to the Kingdom. Man has always combined the two systems, selfish and selfless. Both of your so called right and left incorporate good and bad in their systems. Jesus' system was outside of man's and free of the politics of human duality
 
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Jesus doesn't force people to give their money, he wants people to give willingly.
uhmmm...yes He does, who said He didn't? He set up several systems in the Old Testament where He made people give up money to support poor people. In the New Testament He told people if they didn't help other people they would be sent to hell. So while He does want it to be voluntary He didn't seem to have any problem "holding the stick" over peoples heads either. :sorry:

Communism... err I mean "Socialism" entails that the government just takes your money and spends it for you.
...are you saying the US government is communist...er socialist? Because I'm not seeing anything you just said that's different from what's going on today right here. :eek:

So no, He was not.
On this we agree, He was/is the King and His Kingdom is based on an entirely different basis than what this world is based.
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His way of life He taught was not economic in nature. He did not teach the ways of man, but of the Kingdom. Is there a price on kindness, generousity and charity?
It is true that Jesus' message was not economic in nature, but he did talk about money arguably more than any other subject. Would you agree that while economics is not the main message, our faith should affect the way we view money and economics?
 
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The answer to those questions is "yes," but since the questions are about voluntary actions on the part of individuals, it has nothing to do with the subject of this thread. It certainly has nothing to do with Socialism, "Democratic Socialism" included. :)
 
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It is true that Jesus' message was not economic in nature, but he did talk about money arguably more than any other subject. Would you agree that while economics is not the main message, our faith should affect the way we view money and economics?

Jesus almost never actually talked about money. He used money as metaphor to teach people about other things. Then and now, people think of money as a cure for their problems rather than a symptom of their disease .
 
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Jesus almost never actually talked about money. He used money as metaphor to teach people about other things. Then and now, people think of money as a cure for their problems rather than a symptom of their disease .
And this is why, even when we don't agree on other subjects, I LOVE having grasping the after wind on CF! :clap:
tulc(is just sayn') :oldthumbsup:
 
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