Terrible thoughts

It sounds like you're being tempted by evil thoughts and are being spiritually attacked. You need to calm down and recognize that such blasphemic thoughts are not from you but from the enemy. Be still and know that God is God and that he will protect you. God knows you don't want to have evil thoughts, and the fact you can't control them indicates that they are not from your heart. God knows which are which Hebrews 4:12

One day all of this will be sorted out. Until that time you need to be strong in prayer. Find someone in real life to confide in. Focus on good thoughts Philippians 4:8-9 put on the shield of Faith Ephesians 6:10-18

God bless you on your journey and in your struggle.

Hopefully120 said:

does God know I don’t want them? & that I didn’t want to think them?

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Yes. God does know your struggle, more than you understand. There is hope.

Read Romans 7:15-25
For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.

So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.

Hopefully120 said:

I feel like there is no hope I feel like I can’t get over this I can’t control these thoughts I don’t want them at all does God know I don’t want them? & that I didn’t want to think them?

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Hello Hopefully120, there is ALWAYS hope because of our loving Father's presence in our lives, though I realize that it can sometimes feel like there is not. So we do our best to rest in His great love for us (a love so great that He sent His only begotten Son here to die on the Cross for us, to save us from our sins & the power of sin on this side of the grave, & to make sure that we would not have to live out eternity without Him, nor He without us ).

We can also stand on His great promises to us because He has shown us just how much He loves us, as well how trustworthy all of His words are .. cf Romans 5:8-10.

And He promises us a better future in the nearness of time (not in the distant future) .. e.g. Psalms 103; Lamentations 3:21-24, promises that are especially important to remember/trust/hold on tightly to in the midst of our most troubling times (whenever we ~feel~ that the truth of His word/promises cannot be true, or that they, at least, cannot be true for us, that's when we must ~choose~ to trust them/trust in Him the most by making a conscious effort to remember to take Him at His word/believe Him .. rather than believing the lies that our feelings are telling us in the moment). Because we know that God and the truth of His word to us never changes

I have a sense of the pain that you're feeling (at least I do to a degree anyway), because when I left the very sinful life that I had been leading in my 20's behind to finally become a Christian at age 30, unfortunately, a lot of the mental baggage (garbage) from my former, sinful life was still stuck in my brain, and it came along for the ride

This resulted in my having a HORRIBLE, PAINFUL and TIRING "thought-life" to deal with, terrible thoughts that just wouldn't stop coming at me many times. I would take them "captive" in Jesus' name (as we are commanded to do .. 2 Corinthians 10:5), and I would often have to do so over and over and over again (they even invaded my dreams/nightmares sometimes back then ).

Since this is getting to be such a long post already (sorry about that) let me tell you what worked for me to stop the 'onslaught'.

I tried all of the normal things first, like being as involved as I could be in prayer, Bible study, fellowship, witnessing, serving others, etc., as well trying my best to be walk in faithful accord with the things that passages like this one teach us .. Philippians 4:6-9 (a passage that I believe @friend of has already mentioned to you above, in fact). I found that thanksgiving to God for EVERYTHING .. see Romans 8:28, as well trying to always dwell on things that are excellent/praiseworthy to be particularly beneficial, just FYI.

Such things helped me, a lot actually, but the horrible thoughts, though reduced in intensity, kept coming, that is until I began to replace all of the stale, stinky mental garbage with something FAR better, ~memorized~ verses and passages from the Bible.

A pastor, Chuck Swindoll (you will find a useful quote from him in my signature line below, BTW), told me that if I began to memorize verses/passages from God's word, that it would push all of the mental garbage to the back of my mind, and eventually out of it altogether. And you know what, that's exactly what happened

He also told me that while there would always be more room for additional verses and passages, and for things that are excellent and worthy of praise, as well, no room would be left for the foul garbage to return ~or~ for any new garbage to take its place. And once again, what Pastor Swindoll promised would happen is exactly what happened (I am happy to report that nearly 30 years have passed since I first started memorizing Scripture and began ridding myself of the mental garbage & horrible thought-life ).

I used/use the Navigator's Topical Memory System to both help me memorize God's word, and to give me a very important systematic collection of verses and passages to memorize too. It's a proven system that the Navigators have been using to prepare/train their overseas missionaries with for nearly 100 years now (and now it's available as an iPhone or Android app .. the Navigators had us using flash cards in the past).

I won't kid you, Scripture memory work is just that, work, especially at first, but I don't believe that there is another Christian spiritual discipline that yields more blessings, both immediate and long-term, and that to both ourselves and to others too (whose paths the Lord brings us across).

And along with becoming a walking Bible, of sorts, you will begin to know Scripture and know the God of the Scriptures in an new and deeper way than you ever have before Oh, and sinning becomes much more difficult to do, because every time that you are tempted to sin, the Holy Spirit brings 2-3 perfectly memorized verses to the very front of your mind to remind you why you shouldn't

I am VERY sorry to hear what you are going through, BTW

Praying for you.

God bless you! (Numbers 6:24-26; Proverbs 3:5-6)

--David
p.s. - I'm not sure that memorizing Scripture will work for you like it did for me (hopeful that it will though ), but if you'd like to try it, and you'd like some help getting started, just PM me and I will be happy to help in anyway that I can.

Hopefully120 said:

I feel like there is no hope I feel like I can’t get over this I can’t control these thoughts I don’t want them at all does God know I don’t want them? & that I didn’t want to think them?

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I have OCD and struggle more with obsessions (such as uncontrollable thoughts as you describe) than with the compulsions. Are you aware that there physiological causes of OCD? It's linked to disruptions of the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain which proper medication can successfully address; it's been a tremendous help to me and has provided much liberation from the mental torment of OCD. If you're not under the care of a psychiatrist I highly recommend and encourage you to see one. Also, cognitive behavior therapy has been known to be of help as well; just make sure you see a counselor who's equipped to deal with OCD.

Hopefully120 said:

I feel like there is no hope I feel like I can’t get over this I can’t control these thoughts I don’t want them at all does God know I don’t want them? & that I didn’t want to think them?

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There IS hope! Our OCD brains know how best to get to us and make us afraid, but there is a lot we can do for learning how to deal with OCD. Is there any way you can get professional treatment?

You're not your thoughts! OCD attacks the things you care about most. I had a long stint with religious OCD along with several other forms. My best classification now in a "Pure O" most of my compulsive behavior goes on in my mind—this sounds like what you are doing. All throughout the Bible it talks about God testing and knowing the heart of man—nothing is hidden from Him. He knows exactly who you are and loves you. Ask yourself: Do I enjoy having these thoughts? Do I seek these thoughts out. Do I feel more like myself and have peace when I'm having these thoughts or when I'm not? OCD likes to take our minds off the obvious facts—If you don't feel comfortable with the thought or enjoy it then it's not real. You're feeling anxiety because the thought is opposite of who you are. They are ego-dystonic thoughts.

Hey... I'm abigail
Add me on whatsap +2348158114933 i have these same thoughts, you are not alone. I cried for many nights too. Now I've decided to leave it to God. I find that when I try to fight the thought, it keeps coming back harder. I've told God I love Him and he knows it, my husband is a pastor, he told me to ignore the thoughts, they will go away when I make the enemy realise they don't affect me anymore, he will give up. This is the fight of faith the Bible talked about. And I don't know, it may be the thorn in Paul's flesh he talked about as well... Ad me on whatsap, we can pray together and grow out of it together

Hopefully120 said:

I feel like there is no hope I feel like I can’t get over this I can’t control these thoughts I don’t want them at all does God know I don’t want them? & that I didn’t want to think them?

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Well, they are your thoughts. So maybe you might investigate why your thinking a certain way, first

Also your fear of the thoughts

NeverL0ved said:

Well, they are your thoughts. So maybe you might investigate why your thinking a certain way, first

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Will make them keep coming. You love God, He knows it, he made you. IGNORE IT. IGNORE IT. IGNORE IT. no matter how horrible, ignore it and go about your normal Christain life. Pray, study, do good, be led by God's holy spirit. You are loved. Don't fight a defeated enemy. Talk to God and say, I can't do this on my own, you do it, I'll trust you to do it. Also read, isiah 46 vs 2 and 3.
Also Romans 4 vs 16.
Now don't forget, I'm going through the same thing as you. So I know how hard it is. But stop fighting it. You know what you beleive you don't have to argue with yourself or the devil. Hugs!

Abigail Enebeli said:

Also your fear of the thoughts

Will make them keep coming. You love God, He knows it, he made you. IGNORE IT. IGNORE IT. IGNORE IT. no matter how horrible, ignore it and go about your normal Christain life. Pray, study, do good, be led by God's holy spirit. You are loved. Don't fight a defeated enemy. Talk to God and say, I can't do this on my own, you do it, I'll trust you to do it. Also read, isiah 46 vs 2 and 3.
Also Romans 4 vs 16.
Now don't forget, I'm going through the same thing as you. So I know how hard it is. But stop fighting it. You know what you beleive you don't have to argue with yourself or the devil. Hugs!

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The primary religious formula:

Anything I believe is wrong - Comes from Satan.

Anything I believe is right - Comes from God.

Anything I believe I don't know - I don't want to know.