Protein discovered inside a meteorite

BobRyan said:

Transpermia is not the hope of getting "junk proteins" -- it needs "LIFE" completely formed and on the move.

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Not really. There are other theories like molecular panspermia. We just do not really know at this point.
Considering our early beginnins at scientifically exploring the cosmos that is hardly surprising.

Tech and science will only get better. The creationist fantasies will always have the same weight of scientific evidence they always had ...... which would be nothing at all.

Jonathan Walkerin said:

.. Tech and science will only get better. The creationist fantasies will always have the same weight of scientific evidence they always had ...... which would be nothing at all.

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Interesting.

I'd say many religious faiths' base beliefs will remain static and unchanged into the foreseeable future, (certainly if the past several thousand years is any indicator). It even goes beyond that prediction because the base beliefs, themselves, must be carried forward in order to sustain the principles of the given religious faith. Its tradition.

I've always found the notion of propagating parables from the past, as though that was somehow an inspiration for leading towards a new and motivating future, as being somewhat at odds with that goal(?) Whilst religions are certainly capable of producing harmony and kindness, they also produce the exact opposite .. but religions as an inspiration for where to take humanity .. well I'm not so sure about that(?)

Insights from the past, are an opportunity to create something unimaginably new, (almost from nothing). They do that by freeing up our thinking from the encumberances of that particular past, by way of realizing those 'unpretty' insights .. thereby allowing us to commit to not taking that same pathway again .. rather, create something entirely new, eh(?)

Just thinking out aloud here .. no particular agenda .. (and I'm way OT from proteins in meteorites!)

SelfSim said:

It even goes beyond that prediction because the base beliefs, themselves, must be carried forward in order to sustain the principles of the given religious faith. Its tradition.

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Yes, bit like tradition that earth was the center of the universe and sun orbited earth. Until the scientific evidence was so overwhelming that even the RCC had to face the reality.

At certain point it just becomes apparent that further denial of scientific reality just distracts you from the core message of the religion and these denials to overwhelming scientific evidence die out or move to fringe movements nobody cares about....like YEC.

Aussie Pete said:

Interesting. It could also lend credence to Walt Brown's belief that meteorites originated from earth (hydroplate theory)

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Walt Brown could not understand the simple concept of escape velocity.

And there is no "hydroplate theory".

Subduction Zone said:

Walt Brown could not understand the simple concept of escape velocity.

And there is no "hydroplate theory".

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I've read his tome. It is very interesting. There are supporting views that make a lot of sense and dissenting views that raise valid objections. I remain neutral about some of his ideas. Why don't you contact him? He has an open invitation to debate the issues he raises.

Aussie Pete said:

I've read his tome. It is very interesting. There are supporting views that make a lot of sense and dissenting views that raise valid objections. I remain neutral about some of his ideas. Why don't you contact him? He has an open invitation to debate the issues he raises.

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It really does not. It is only hand waving that is not supported at all by the evidence.

Besides you yourself can prove that at least for you there is no hydroplate theory. Tell me one reasonable test based upon his model that could possibly falsify his "theory".

Interesting update on the purported ET protein here:

Have we really found an alien protein inside a meteorite?:

However, several other researchers contacted by New Scientist expressed scepticism about the results. “If we could find a protein in a meteorite that wasn’t from Earth, then that would be amazing,” says Lee Cronin at the University of Glasgow in the UK – but he doesn’t think that is the case here.

The results of the analysis don’t necessarily mean that the compound the researchers claim is in the meteorite really is there, he says. Instead, he says they are extrapolating from incomplete data. The protein they claim to have found is also unlikely to occur in nature, he says. “The structure makes no sense.”

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Aussie Pete's post is useful to remind us of the (factual) observation that meteorites are transferred between planets.

E.g. -- Rare Mars Rocks Crashed to Earth in July

Generally, there is some large impact on a planet (happens a lot), and then some tiny fraction of the ejecta can escape the planet's gravity well and some small fraction of such lose material can of course end up falling on another planet. (ask if you want me to search up something more involved about that)

SelfSim said:

Meh .. one short protein is a long way short of life .. which is a long way short of interstellar panspermia.

Nope ..

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Aussie Pete said:

Interesting. It could also lend credence to Walt Brown's belief that meteorites originated from earth (hydroplate theory)

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