The Parable of the Persistent Widow

LionHeartIV · Mar 4, 2020

I appreciate that healing is a paid-for gift, so I don't need to ask the Father to heal me.
1 Peter 2:24 (NKJV) "who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed."

Therefore, if my body gets sick, I rebuke the sickness in Jesus' name, then speak to the mountain and command my affected body area to be healed in Jesus' name.

Question is: is it ok to command a healing every day after that until the healing is fully manifest in my physical body, according to Luke 18:1?

AMP - "Also [Jesus] told them a parable to the effect that they ought always to pray and not to turn coward (faint, lose heart, and give up)."

Ahermit · Mar 4, 2020

2 Corinthians 12:8-9
Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me.
But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ's power may rest on me.

LionHeartIV · Mar 4, 2020

When I have prayed for others. Often it takes 2 or 3 times before the healing is complete. Do we apply the same persistence when praying for ourselves?

Aussie Pete · Mar 4, 2020

LionHeartIV said:
I appreciate that healing is a paid-for gift, so I don't need to ask the Father to heal me.
1 Peter 2:24 (NKJV) "who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed."

Therefore, if my body gets sick, I rebuke the sickness in Jesus' name, then speak to the mountain and command my affected body area to be healed in Jesus' name.

Question is: is it ok to command a healing every day after that until the healing is fully manifest in my physical body, according to Luke 18:1?

AMP - "Also [Jesus] told them a parable to the effect that they ought always to pray and not to turn coward (faint, lose heart, and give up)."

Healing is tricky. Sometimes God permits an ailment in order to weaken our self reliance. I don't believe that we should passively accept sickness. Watchman Nee said that we should pray and ask until we have an assurance of the answer. Then we should thank the Lord Jesus for the answer, even if we do not have the experience. Watchman Nee was sent home to die by his doctor. Mr Nee had Tuberculosis, usually fatal in those days. He outlived the doctor because God healed him. Someone said to Mr Nee that he'd prayed a 100 times. Nee's reply was that we should pray once and thank God 99 times. Makes sense to me.

Ahermit · Mar 4, 2020

LionHeartIV said:
When I have prayed for others. Often it takes 2 or 3 times before the healing is complete. Do we apply the same persistence when praying for ourselves?

Depends on your perspective of faith.

We all will physically die. So, what is left to be healed, but the soul. The healed soul is a person who is aware of their own truth. They accept that truth. In that acceptance, there is no longer an issue, nor a want or need to be different. They are in complete okayness with it all, including physical death.

In that okayness, there is no persistence to be different. They see the truth of the matter.

For instance, you might experience pain, which is nothing but a physical and/or emotional sensation; and this is the truth of it. Suffering only comes from being dishonest with the truth. Suffering is a story of not coping with the pain, or the truth of the matter. If one is aware of this truth, then one can let go of their fear of 'not coping', and be okay with the sensation of the pain. Often the pain melts away as the truth of the matter restores and heals, either physically, emotionally, or both.

hhodgson · Mar 4, 2020

LionHeartIV said:
I appreciate that healing is a paid-for gift, so I don't need to ask the Father to heal me.
1 Peter 2:24 (NKJV) "who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed."

Therefore, if my body gets sick, I rebuke the sickness in Jesus' name, then speak to the mountain and command my affected body area to be healed in Jesus' name.

Question is: is it ok to command a healing every day after that until the healing is fully manifest in my physical body, according to Luke 18:1?

AMP - "Also [Jesus] told them a parable to the effect that they ought always to pray and not to turn coward (faint, lose heart, and give up)."

Hi LionHeartIV, (Your quote) "Therefore, if my body gets sick, I rebuke the sickness in Jesus' name, then speak to the mountain and command my affected body area to be healed in Jesus' name." I see absolutely NO problem with your quote, and, yes... as far as "receiving" healing, or any other need one may have... there is only one "work" requirement which is to "only believe." It's already a completed work that was accomplished and provided for, by the finished works of Christ on the cross over 2,000 years ago.

So, instead of many believers that are "trying" to receive their healing... all we need to do is acknowledge... that the provision for healing, (or any other need), that we may have has already been provided for. Just apply faith... and only believe. His grace makes and our faith takes.

1 Peter 2:24 (NKJV) "who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed."

Many Christian believers today don't yet believe that healing has already been provided for us to receive. As your scripture says, "you were healed." (past tense).

There's no problem (except to Satan), for us to command him to take sickness away... and that we were already healed, and is healed, and staying healed... regardless of any symptoms he throws at you... so throw that into his face, and the Word says that we are to "resist him and he will flee." But first off, we are to "submit ourselves" therefore to God, then resist him and he will flee.

James 4:7 "Submit yourselves, therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."

It may take some time before he (Satan) realizes that you know your identity in Christ. Remember the passage where demons overpowered the seven sons of Sceva... and said to them, "Jesus, I know. Paul, I know... but, who are you?" When we stand and speak the Word and then... labor to REST on the Word and resist him, he will flee for he will know your name... also, as Jesus and Paul.

Acts 19:15 Eventually, one of the evil spirits answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but... who are you?"

Nice post and... welcome to our forum.

LionHeartIV · Mar 5, 2020

hhodgson said:
Hi LionHeartIV, (Your quote) "Therefore, if my body gets sick, I rebuke the sickness in Jesus' name, then speak to the mountain and command my affected body area to be healed in Jesus' name." I see absolutely NO problem with your quote, and, yes... as far as "receiving" healing, or any other need one may have... there is only one "work" requirement which is to "only believe." It's already a completed work that was accomplished and provided for, by the finished works of Christ on the cross over 2,000 years ago.

So, instead of many believers that are "trying" to receive their healing... all we need to do is acknowledge... that the provision for healing, (or any other need), that we may have has already been provided for. Just apply faith... and only believe. His grace makes and our faith takes.

1 Peter 2:24 (NKJV) "who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed."

Many Christian believers today don't yet believe that healing has already been provided for us to receive. As your scripture says, "you were healed." (past tense).

There's no problem (except to Satan), for us to command him to take sickness away... and that we were already healed, and is healed, and staying healed... regardless of any symptoms he throws at you... so throw that into his face, and the Word says that we are to "resist him and he will flee." But first off, we are to "submit ourselves" therefore to God, then resist him and he will flee.

James 4:7 "Submit yourselves, therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."

It may take some time before he (Satan) realizes that you know your identity in Christ. Remember the passage where demons overpowered the seven sons of Sceva... and said to them, "Jesus, I know. Paul, I know... but, who are you?" When we stand and speak the Word and then... labor to REST on the Word and resist him, he will flee for he will know your name... also, as Jesus and Paul.

Acts 19:15 Eventually, one of the evil spirits answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but... who are you?"

Nice post and... welcome to our forum.

Yes, thanks for your words of encouragement. But you know I'm looking at what to do in between praying the prayer for healing and receiving the manifestation.

LionHeartIV · Mar 5, 2020

Ahermit said:
Depends on your perspective of faith.

We all will physically die. So, what is left to be healed, but the soul. The healed soul is a person who is aware of their own truth. They accept that truth. In that acceptance, there is no longer an issue, nor a want or need to be different. They are in complete okayness with it all, including physical death.

In that okayness, there is no persistence to be different. They see the truth of the matter.

For instance, you might experience pain, which is nothing but a physical and/or emotional sensation; and this is the truth of it. Suffering only comes from being dishonest with the truth. Suffering is a story of not coping with the pain, or the truth of the matter. If one is aware of this truth, then one can let go of their fear of 'not coping', and be okay with the sensation of the pain. Often the pain melts away as the truth of the matter restores and heals, either physically, emotionally, or both.

Thanks for your reply, but - with respect - it does seem as though you believe that God is in the healing business today? Does he want us to suffer in that case?

LionHeartIV · Mar 5, 2020

Aussie Pete said:
Healing is tricky. Sometimes God permits an ailment in order to weaken our self reliance. I don't believe that we should passively accept sickness. Watchman Nee said that we should pray and ask until we have an assurance of the answer. Then we should thank the Lord Jesus for the answer, even if we do not have the experience. Watchman Nee was sent home to die by his doctor. Mr Nee had Tuberculosis, usually fatal in those days. He outlived the doctor because God healed him. Someone said to Mr Nee that he'd prayed a 100 times. Nee's reply was that we should pray once and thank God 99 times. Makes sense to me.

I like that! Thanks. Someone once said that praise releases our faith and acknowledges what happened when we prayed. But what happens if the symptoms return?

Aussie Pete · Mar 5, 2020

LionHeartIV said:
I like that! Thanks. Someone once said that praise releases our faith and acknowledges what happened when we prayed. But what happens if the symptoms return?

We need to ask the Lord Jesus why. His word is certain and sure. There is always a reason because God is not arbitrary. A woman I know had a thyroid deficiency. The Lord showed her it was because she resented her father. Once that issue was resolved, the thyroid was fine also. She backslid. The thyroid stopped working again. There is no "one size fits all". One reason God allows various trials is just to get us to talk to Him! Crazy, I know. I used to think that God saved me by accident or something. That He was not interested in me as a person. It is exactly the opposite. God loves perfectly, not like us. He very much wants to set us free to be the kind of people that He wants us to be, which for the born again, is what we want to be also. We don't always enjoy the journey, but it is worth it.

now faith · Mar 6, 2020

God is not double minded, nor does He work evil against His Children.
life and death is in the power of your tongue.

John 15: 4. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.
God never fails or changes.
Healing is a promise of Gods Word,all of Gods promises are yes and amen.

Ahermit · Mar 9, 2020

LionHeartIV said:
Thanks for your reply, but - with respect - it does seem as though you believe that God is in the healing business today? Does he want us to suffer in that case?

Pain is inevitable, but suffering is optional.
Pain is a sensation, and nothing else.
Suffering is a self-fabricated story of not coping with the sensation of pain. If you don't pay attention to creating a story, there is no suffering.

Have you not experienced a bleeding injury, yet not noticing it because your mind was busy on other things.

Suffering is not God's will, but our own will. It is our own will that we have chosen to believe that we are not okay; yet, the inner Being, who we really are, is okay.

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