Socialism will send America into a season of wealth.

Hazelelponi · Feb 28, 2020

SkyWriting said:
So if your not identifying non-believers, then who is?
And how to you imagine they are making this distinction?

A non-believer is the majority of those living within the U.S. borders.

As for those who believe, they are already involved in charitable giving.

It's NOT to believers (or those you consider believers in Christ) to take from anyone else to do anything with their money, what they give or don't give is between them and God. (Dont let the left hand know what the right hand is giving Matthew 6:3)

If Christ believed in forcing people to do anything he would have instructed his disciples to take the rich mans wealth and distribute it for him.. yet, it's the one thing He never did.

SkyWriting · Feb 28, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
A non-believer is the majority of those living within the U.S. borders.

Sure thing..... :sorry:

The world sure changes I guess.

In 2016, Christians represent 73.7% of the total population, 48.9% identifying as Protestants, 23.0% as Catholics, and 1.8% as Mormons, and are followed by people having no religion with 18.2% of the total population.

Athanasius377 · Feb 28, 2020

The problem with socialism isn’t that it doesn’t sound great on paper. The problem is when you introduce people into the system. It ignores the inherent wickedness of mankind. It will never ever work to scale. There will always be a hierarchy and the use of force to invoke the ruling class’s will. I’m batting a 1000 on this point. The 20th century is filled with examples of how it doesn’t work. And it won’t work in the future no matter how hard one tries.

Hazelelponi · Feb 28, 2020

SkyWriting said:
Sure thing..... The world sure changes I guess.

In 2016, Christians represent 73.7% of the total population, 48.9% identifying as Protestants, 23.0% as Catholics, and 1.8% as Mormons, and are followed by people having no religion with 18.2% of the total population.

Where does the Bible say those Jews who declared themselves to be so were all Jews?

"Well then, has God failed to fulfill his promise to Israel? No, for not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God’s people!" Romans 9:6

Most people declare the faith of their parents when asked, it doesn't mean they are saved members of the faith...

Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' Matthew 7:23

I could declare myself a cow, it wouldn't make it true unless I was really a cow. Just saying something doesn't make it true.

SkyWriting · Feb 28, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
Where does the Bible say those Jews who declared themselves to be so were all Jews?

Bad question.

Hazelelponi · Feb 28, 2020

SkyWriting said:
Bad question.

No... and I explained using scripture what I was saying - and why.

SkyWriting · Feb 28, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
"Well then, has God failed to fulfill his promise to Israel? No, for not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God’s people!" Romans 9:6

If you have any supporting facts, preach away!

SkyWriting · Feb 28, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
No... and I explained using scripture what I was saying - and why.

Bad question because being Jewish is a culture question, not a question of faith.
And who can separate true faith, you?

Matthew 23:28
So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

SkyWriting · Feb 28, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
Where does the Bible say those Jews who declared themselves to be so were all Jews?

1 Samuel 16:7
But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”

friend of · Feb 28, 2020

Impending socialist dictator of America incoming. Its only a matter of time at this rate

Aussie Pete · Feb 28, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
I believe it's possible your not looking at the mindset Jesus was speaking to.

For instance, the Jews were the original prosperity gospel preachers. They read the old testament to be a promise of earthly blessings for their righteousness, therefore Jesus was dispelling the belief that wealth was an indication of how righteous a man is..

He was turning that on its head and showing them that the righteousness of a man is seen by mans loving God above anything else, not in earthly blessings.. righteousness is a heart thing most of the Jewish elites lacked.

Today, God's Kingdom is not of this world, we are to live in the world, without being of the world. This doesn't entitle us to a non-believers material goods or his money to redistribute to anyone.

We should take care that we are showing the love of Christ, and not acting like holier than thou theives. We are put on earth to share Christ with the lost, not be mini dictators.

We are here to implement the Kingdom of God, the gospel that Jesus commanded us to preach. The majority of Christians work for a living. That is not theft. God expects us to give to believers in need and to those who preach and teach, as well as to the poor around us. God in turn will provide any needs that cannot be met by normal means. For example, the government paid me a good deal of money for a number of incidents that happened over 50 years ago. It was out of the blue from my perspective. It was also most welcome as I was about to retire.

Money is Satan's tool for controlling the world. There is nothing wrong with honestly taking money from the world system to fund the work of the kingdom. It's the only way that the church can function properly. Who funded Paul's missionary journeys? For a time, he worked so as not to be a burden. Other times, the church supported him.

SkyWriting · Feb 28, 2020

friend of said:
Impending socialist dictator of America incoming. Its only a matter of time at this rate

Look. I'm from Milwaukee. Socialists are not dictators. I actually live
here as an informed person.

When Socialists Swept Milwaukee
What Milwaukee Can Teach the Democrats about Socialism ...

www.dissentmagazine.org › online_articles › what-milwaukee-can-tea...
May 8, 2019 - “No city in America has stronger ties to socialism than Milwaukee.

Brief history of socialism in Milwaukee

Hazelelponi · Feb 28, 2020

Aussie Pete said:
We are here to implement the Kingdom of God, the gospel that Jesus commanded us to preach. The majority of Christians work for a living. That is not theft. God expects us to give to believers in need and to those who preach and teach, as well as to the poor around us. God in turn will provide any needs that cannot be met by normal means. For example, the government paid me a good deal of money for a number of incidents that happened over 50 years ago. It was out of the blue from my perspective. It was also most welcome as I was about to retire.

Money is Satan's tool for controlling the world. There is nothing wrong with honestly taking money from the world system to fund the work of the kingdom. It's the only way that the church can function properly. Who funded Paul's missionary journeys? For a time, he worked so as not to be a burden. Other times, the church supported him.

No.. We are not here to implement the Kingdom of God.

Christ did that, not man. And His Kingdom is not of this world.

We are here to share the Gospel. That's not implementation.

What money I keep to live on and and what money I give in charity is between myself and God, not between you and I... someone's earnings aren't yours to go through and decide what should be done with it, unless they give it to you.

topher694 · Feb 28, 2020

SkyWriting said:
That covers both.
Thanks!

Um, ok. Glad to be of help.

SkyWriting · Feb 28, 2020

grasping the after wind said:
He did no such thing.

It's a fact, not a theory.

Aussie Pete · Feb 28, 2020

Hazelelponi said:
No.. We are not here to implement the Kingdom of God.

Christ did that, not man. And His Kingdom is not of this world.

We are here to share the Gospel. That's not implementation.

What money I keep to live on and and what money I give in charity is between myself and God, not between you and I...

What is the point of preaching the gospel of the Kingdom if not to bring it in? I have no interest in your financial affairs or anyone else for that matter. Do you even know what God's kingdom is?

rockytopva · Feb 28, 2020

SkyWriting said:
I referred specifically to socialism.

Socialism is a political, social and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production and workers' self-management of enterprises.

Proverbs 22:7
The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is the slave of the lender.

Proverbs 13:11
Wealth gained hastily will dwindle, but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.

Ecclesiastes 5:10
He who loves money will not be satisfied with money, nor he who loves wealth with his income; this also is vanity.

Luke 12:15
And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”

Matthew 6:19-21
“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

1 Timothy 6:17-19
As for the rich in this present age, charge them not to be haughty, nor to set their hopes on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly provides us with everything to enjoy. They are to do good, to be rich in good works, to be generous and ready to share, thus storing up treasure for themselves as a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is truly life.

Proverbs 13:22
A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children, but the sinner's wealth is laid up for the righteous.

I would not attempt to blend the philosophies of Karl Marx and Bernie Sanders with the Word of God!

Al Touthentop · Feb 28, 2020

SkyWriting said:
Jesus was fond of sinners and encouraged people to build up their neighbors.
Who is could be a better socialist than Jesus? Jesus spoke about self-management
of money more often than faith and prayer combined. Any ideas why?

Socialism is the control over the means of production. We have become socialist and have been so for many, many decades.

The Federal reserve and its fiat currency is the cause of every boom and bust since 1913. Having interest rates controlled by a monopoly is the worst form of socialism because the effects of their monopoly power are not apparent.

The Federal Reserve, a private corporation, caused both the great depression of 1928-1960 and the one that started in 2008 and has yet to subside.

Robin Mauro · Feb 28, 2020

SkyWriting said:
I guess it all depends on what you don't know about socialism.

Socialism is an economic and political system. It is an economic theory of social organization. It believes that the means of making, moving, and trading wealth should be owned or controlled by the workers. This means the money made belongs to the people who make the things, instead of a group of private owners.
Socialism - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Socialism - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Socialism - Socialism is a political, social and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production and workers' self-management of enterprises.

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And Democratic Socialism is a combination of private and public ownership. All things should not be for profit.

throughfiierytrial · Feb 28, 2020

SkyWriting said:
Jesus was fond of sinners and encouraged people to build up their neighbors.
Who is could be a better socialist than Jesus? Jesus spoke about self-management
of money more often than faith and prayer combined. Any ideas why?

I never did a running tally of parable topics nor verse topics, but I read the Bible a lot and this assertion doesn't sound right. Many people though do not understand His points to the parables and other verses. Maybe that is what went so obviously wrong in this observation or opinion.

Socialism will send America into a season of wealth.

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