Where Do The Souls Go?

Lazarus Long · Feb 25, 2020

Where do the souls of the aborted go, where do the souls of the miscarried go?

GospelS · Feb 25, 2020

Ecclesiastes 12:7. and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

Our souls rest until the day of judgement. Just as when we fall asleep, into a state of unconsciousness. After judgement comes heaven or hell.

pleinmont · Feb 25, 2020

Lazarus Long said:
Where do the souls of the aborted go, where do the souls of the miscarried go?

I don't think souls exist in the religious sense of that term, so there is nowhere for them to go. I had a miscarriage once in the early 70s, just one of those things, I gave it no further thought.

Desk trauma · Feb 25, 2020

gospels said:
Ecclesiastes 12:7. and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

Our souls rest until the day of judgement. After judgement comes heaven or hell.

If that's the case, going off the notion that souls are attached as conception, the majority of all souls never became aware of their own existence and are to be judged on what they did prior to brain development.

Lazarus Long · Feb 25, 2020

pleinmont said:
I don't think souls exist in the religious sense of that term, so there is nowhere for them to go. I had a miscarriage once in the early 70s, just one of those things, I gave it no further thought.

I think most christians believe that the unborn have souls.

Lazarus Long · Feb 25, 2020

Lazarus Long said:
Where do the souls of the aborted go, where do the souls of the miscarried go?

Do they go to hell?

pleinmont · Feb 25, 2020

Lazarus Long said:
I think most christians believe that the unborn have souls.

No doubt they do.

Sorn · Feb 25, 2020

Yes, its a tricky question, at what point does God create / attach a soul to a physical body.

We can only speculate.

Lazarus Long · Feb 25, 2020

Sorn said:
Yes, its a tricky question, at what point does God create / attach a soul to a physical body.

We can only speculate.

Are you suggesting that it happens after birth? Or does it happen in the womb?

GospelS · Feb 25, 2020

Desk trauma said:
If that's the case, going off the notion that souls are attached as conception, the majority of all souls never became aware of their own existence and are to be judged on what they did prior to brain development.

Every soul will be brought to the judgement and go through it. That does not mean every soul will be questioned during the process. So, don't worry about aborted babies. They will not be asked regarding what they did prior to brain development. All will be justly rewarded or punished during the process.

Robban · Feb 25, 2020

Lazarus Long said:
Where do the souls of the aborted go, where do the souls of the miscarried go?

I do not know, was there a soul there to begin with?

If as a guideline what is said in Genesis 2:7,

Man was first formed then after life/breath/soul was blown into his nostrils.

After he was formed.

pleinmont · Feb 25, 2020

gospels said:
Every soul will be brought to the judgement and go through it. That does not mean every soul will be questioned during the process. Some might only have rewards awaiting for them to receive from the judge.

A statement which is only a belief, NOT a fact.

Sorn · Feb 25, 2020

Lazarus Long said:
Are you suggesting that it happens after birth? Or does it happen in the womb?

I'm not suggesting anything. You have stated 2 possibilities, both of which have positive and negative points or implications.

I guess that's really what I was saying, whatever position one takes to 'fix' their problem or solve their dilema, will simply cause another problem or dilema elsewhere in their thoelogy.

Sorn · Feb 25, 2020

gospels said:
Every soul will be brought to the judgement and go through it. That does not mean every soul will be questioned during the process. Some might only have rewards awaiting for them to receive from the judge.

Given that its probably safe to assume that God creates souls, its a bit pointless to create a soul for someone who won't get born or dies like a day or 2 after. God may as well just create souls and put them through judgement like you describe, and basically just let them through.
Whats to stop God 'cutting out' the middle process of a still born child or a baby that dies straight after birth?

Sorn · Feb 25, 2020

Robban said:
I do not know, was there a soul there to begin with?

If as a guideline what is said in Genesis 2:7,

Man was first formed then after life/breath/soul was blown into his nostrils.

After he was formed.

This probably just applies to the first man and woman (Adam & Eve)

Robban · Feb 25, 2020

Sorn said:
This probably just applies to the first man and woman (Adam & Eve)

Do you have anything else to go on?

Sorn · Feb 25, 2020

Well, the implication of the genesis tract is that they weren't alive until God blew the breath of life into them. Of course we don't know how quickly God made them or what steps were involved etc. Were they in a coma before the breath of life or were they in like suspended animation etc. , for a few seconds, a few hours or longer?? we don't know.

However a baby in a womb is definitely alive the whole time, its just deciding when they become a person that we guess at and set a possibly arbitrary point for.

pleinmont · Feb 25, 2020

Sorn said:
Given that its probably safe to assume that God creates souls, its a bit pointless to create a soul for someone who won't get born or dies like a day or 2 after. God may as well just create souls and put them through judgement like you describe, and basically just let them through.
Whats to stop God 'cutting out' the middle process of a still born child or a baby that dies straight after birth?

It isn't safe to assume that any god exists, let alone has anything to do with mythical 'souls'.

Desk trauma · Feb 25, 2020

gospels said:
Every soul will be brought to the judgement and go through it.

What an odd idea.

"Hey you never developed beyond embryo stage but by the way you exist here's the afterlife."

gospels said:
So, don't worry about aborted babies.

I'm not.

gospels said:
They will not be asked regarding what they did prior to brain development.

Do they get turned into fully formed beings at some point in this process so that you deity is not sitting there talking to a embryo?

Robban · Feb 25, 2020

Sorn said:
Well, the implication of the genesis tract is that they weren't alive until God blew the breath of life into them. Of course we don't know how quickly God made them or what steps were involved etc. Were they in a coma before the breath of life or were they in like suspended animation etc. , for a few seconds, a few hours or longer?? we don't know.

However a baby in a womb is definitely alive the whole time, its just deciding when they become a person that we guess at and set a possibly arbitrary point for.

There are sages who mean 40 days after conception.

When a soul is sent down from the world of souls,
it is sent down into a body prepared for it,s mission.

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