Loving the Jews.

I would think the Lord would want us to try to love people regardless of who they are. And to not discriminate.

Carl Emerson said:

I note that Paul walked close with Jesus and had a deep love for the Jews as did Jesus himself.

Should this be normal for believers who are close to God's heart?

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Let me see, is it normal for Gods' children, to Love Gods' Chosen people?

Hmmmmm.

Eph. 2:13,18
13) But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14) For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15) Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16) And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17) And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18) For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Eph 2:19-22
19) Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20) And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21) In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22) In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

I would have to say yes, owing to the fact we are now Jews also.

Carl Emerson said:

I note that Paul walked close with Jesus and had a deep love for the Jews as did Jesus himself.

Should this be normal for believers who are close to God's heart?

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Paul never knew Yeshua while He was here. Paul and Yeshua were both Jews so why would they not love their own people?

Carl Emerson said:

I note that Paul walked close with Jesus and had a deep love for the Jews as did Jesus himself.

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Jesus came for the Jews as he said many times, he was King of the Jews, he was and still is the Lion of Judah should there be any question?

24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Carl Emerson said:

Should this be normal for believers who are close to God's heart?

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I don't see how you can be close to G-ds heart and not.

Going_Nowhere said:

I would think the Lord would want us to try to love people regardless of who they are. And to not discriminate.

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Not what Jesus taught though.

The Sheep and the Goats

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

JIMINZ said:

Let me see, is it normal for Gods' children, to Love Gods' Chosen people?

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JIMINZ said:

I would have to say yes, owing to the fact we are now Jews also.

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No, you do not become a Jew but you are grafted into Israel, not replacing her.

Carl Emerson said:

I note that Paul walked close with Jesus and had a deep love for the Jews as did Jesus himself.

Should this be normal for believers who are close to God's heart?

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Yes, of course.

Carl Emerson said:

I note that Paul walked close with Jesus and had a deep love for the Jews as did Jesus himself.

Should this be normal for believers who are close to God's heart?

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We're to love everyone. It doesn't matter if someone is Jew or Gentile, everyone means everyone.

-CryptoLutheran

Of course we are to love everyone but the post is asking specifically whether we should love the Jews.
Of course we should, our Lord Jesus was one after all!

Heavenhome said:

Of course we are to love everyone but the post is asking specifically whether we should love the Jews.
Of course we should, our Lord Jesus was one after all!

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Yes, we should love our Jewish neighbors. Only a bigot would say otherwise. Antisemitism, like every form of racism and xenophobia, is evil.

-CryptoLutheran

Agree Thankful for what they've given us - how God has shown through them.

Here's a few verses that reveal God and the Jewish people.
-"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." Gen 12:3, Gen 27:23, Num 22:12
-"For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth." Deut 7:6
-"For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God, and the Lord hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth." Deu 14:2
-"I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin." Rom 11:1

-'And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Gal 3:29

Lulav said:

No, you do not become a Jew but you are grafted into Israel, not replacing her.

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Gal. 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

I really never said what you are attributing to me, never did say anybody replaced the Jews, as a matter of FACT, I was pointing out we were grafted into the household of GOD, while I did pose the pertinent verses to aptly express my opinion.

JIMINZ said:

Let me see, is it normal for Gods' children, to Love Gods' Chosen people?

Hmmmmm.

Eph. 2:13,18
13) But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14) For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15) Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16) And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17) And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18) For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Eph 2:19-22
19) Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20) And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21) In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22) In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

I would have to say yes, owing to the fact we are now Jews also.

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Carl Emerson said:

I note that Paul walked close with Jesus and had a deep love for the Jews as did Jesus himself.

Should this be normal for believers who are close to God's heart?

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That depends on how you define who are the Jews.

Revelation 3:9 (NRSV)
I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but are lying—I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you.

Romans 9:8 (NRSV)
This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as descendants.


That said. I have faith that God won't desert those among His chosen people who remain loyal to Him. While there are secular Jews today, they don't even believe in God not to mention Jesus Christ.

Carl Emerson said:

Well if God didn't love us before we believed where would we be?

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On the other hand, if God loves the unbelieved why should anyone be saved at all.

If everyone is saved, then it's no point to even mention that who shall be saved. The word "saved" shouldn't even appear in the Bible.

Carl Emerson said:

I note that Paul walked close with Jesus and had a deep love for the Jews as did Jesus himself.

Should this be normal for believers who are close to God's heart?

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First, since Paul was himself a former Pharisee, you can certainly see where he was coming from, seeing the destruction of Jerusalem within his sight and the tribulation to come, seeing what rejection of the Messiah meant - certainly he was broken hearted.

We should be equally broken hearted for all the lost, however I don't see Jews as particularly special in the New Covenant era such as dispensationalists think, they are just as lost as anyone else who is lost.

They rejected the Messiah as a nation, and each generation has the same call to believe as the one who came before. Which is the same call we all heard, who were once lost - to come to Christ for salvation.

Hazelelponi said:

They rejected the Messiah as a nation, and each generation has the same call to believe as the one who came before. Which is the same call we all heard, who were once lost - to come to Christ for salvation.
However I don't see Jews as particularly special in the New Covenant era, they are just as lost as anyone else who is lost.

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The Jews were Blinded and Deafened,(Having Eyes that they should not see, having Ears that they should not hear) by God to the truth, as to who Jesus really was, so Salvation would pass on to the Gentile, the Jews of today are still Blind and Deaf to the Gospel message, they never were like unsaved Gentiles.

JIMINZ said:

The Jews were Blinded and Deafened,(Having Eyes that they should not see, having Ears that they should not hear) by God to the truth, as to who Jesus really was, so Salvation would pass on to the Gentile, the Jews of today are still Blind and Deaf to the Gospel message, they never were like unsaved Gentiles.

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Explain how their blindness and deafness is any different than the blindness and deafness of Gentiles again? There isn't a special category of blind and deaf, they are those who did not heed the Holy Spirit and hardened their own hearts, so God gave them over to it.

As it is written:

“Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion” Hebrews 3:12

Therefore we can see they are actually hardening their own hearts by refusing to hear the Spirit’s voice as the Holy Spirit says, “Today, if you hear his voice” Hebrews 3:7

This warning about not hearing His voice is found throughout Scripture and is repeated many times as it is again in Hebrews 4:7 where it is written: “God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted: “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts.”

The point is you must hear His voice today; you must listen to the Spirit’s voice of putting your faith in Christ. The more you suppress His voice, the harder your heart becomes until your heart reaches a point that you will not hear His voice anymore. Your heart hardens and your eyes become blinded to the glorious gospel in Jesus Christ.

God will move heaven and earth if a person genuinely seeks to know God but suppressing the knowledge of God, time after time, is where God finally gives them up to the lusts of their own flesh and Satan keeps them in darkness.

The saying “there is none so blind as those who refuse to see” is as true today as it was of the religious leaders in Jesus’ day.

Everyone must make their choice, while it is still "today".

JIMINZ said:

Gal. 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

I really never said what you are attributing to me, never did say anybody replaced the Jews, as a matter of FACT, I was pointing out we were grafted into the household of GOD, while I did pose the pertinent verses to aptly express my opinion.

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You were the one who said you were a Jew

"I would have to say yes, owing to the fact we are now Jews also."

Being in the household does not make you a Jew, just like standing in a garage does not make you a car.