Polygamy

Zachm531 said:

Interesting thought

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It is similar to the thought that if God intended gay marriage, He would have created Adam and Steve instead of Adam and Eve.

Oscarr said:

I reckon if God intend a man to have more than one wife, He would have taken more than one of Adam's ribs and created several "helpmeets" for him.

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God gave David multiple wives, and would actually have given David more:

2 Samuel 12:8 NIV

I gave your master's house to you, and your master's wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more.

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just because something is not his original plan does not mean that God is against it.

Dkh587 said:

God gave David multiple wives, and would actually have given David more:

2 Samuel 12:8 NIV


just because something is not his original plan does not mean that God is against it.

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According to Paul, having more than one wife disqualifies a man from being an elder or a deacon in the Christian church.

Zachm531 said:

Can anyone show me where the Bible condemns polygamy? In the OT we see many instances of multiple wives and concubines. In the NT Jesus says that a marriage is between one man and one woman but he doesnt say anything about multiple marriages and/or concubines. Im not taking a side here and am interested to see the scripture provided.

in 1 Timothy 3:2 a distinction is made that a church elder must be a man of one wife but other than that I dont see it condemned

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The Old Testament also presents the ideal marriage in Moses' comment on Adam and Eve in Genesis 2:24. Just because the Old Testament doesn't condemn it outright doesn't mean it's the norm. Witness the complications that arise from polygamy with Abraham and Sarah and Hagar, Jacob and Leah and Rachel, Elkanah and Penninah and Hannah, David and his wives, and Solomon and his many wives. The Bible's history sometimes shows God's displeasure rather than preaching at us.

God's original creation of marriage is clearly commanded in Ephesians 5:20-33.

Allot of things were done BEFORE the law. Praise GOD for just one wife.. well for me.

Dkh587 said:

desiring a woman in your heart is not adultery unless she is married.

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Matthew 5:28 says
"But I tell you that anyone who looks at A woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

That means looking at any woman with lustful intentions. Not just those who are married women.

Zachm531 said:

Not necessarily. Homosexuality is condemned directly in the Old and New Testament

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It was a joke and not a theological comment!

I wonder what their flag will be in a couple of years, I'm also curious if the Gen A would be more woke and victim over this than how Gen Z and millennials are with the lgbtbbq.

friend of said:

Matthew 5:28 says
"But I tell you that anyone who looks at A woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

That means looking at any woman with lustful intentions. Not just those who are married women.

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Adultery, as defined by the Bible, is when a woman has sex with a man she is not married to.

It is silly to think that a single man desiring a single woman in his heart is adultery - that’s clearly not what Messiah is saying, nor is it a sin to have multiple wives, as the prophets and patriarchs had multiple wives, and were righteous before God. God even told David he gave him multiple wives.

he’s teaching a correct understanding in the context of what adultery is - if you look at a woman (whom is married) with desire for her in your heart, you have committed adultery. Thou shall not covet your neighbor’s wife.

a woman has to be married to another man for another man to be guilty of adultery with her. A single man can’t commit adultery with a single woman, nor can a married man commit adultery with a single woman. Adultery is what King David did with Bathsheba: he had sex with another man’s wife.

polygamy is not a sin, yet I don’t encourage it, especially not in our culture.

adultery is always spoken of as being with a woman, because it is based on the marital status of a woman:

Leviticus 20:10

And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

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Proverbs 6:32

But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul.

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Dkh587 said:

adultery is always spoken of as being with a woman, because it is based on the marital status of a woman:

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Dkh587 said:

It is silly to think that a single man desiring a single woman in his heart is adultery

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But that's exactly what Matthew 5:28 says. The commandment to abstain from adultery is talking about premarital sex as well. Or are we allowed to have premarital sex if the person isn't married?

friend of said:

But that's exactly what Matthew 5:28 says. The commandment to abstain from adultery is talking about premarital sex as well. Or are we allowed to have premarital sex if the person isn't married?

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you have an incorrect understanding on adultery, so your understanding of what the Messiah is saying about adultery is incorrect. You have to correctly understand what adultery is before you can correctly understand what the Messiah is teaching about adultery. Adultery ALWAYS involves a married woman. He’s teaching about adultery with the correct understanding that it involves a married woman. The woman in Matthew 5:28 is a married woman.

premarital sex would be fornication.

And no, we shouldn’t be promiscuous and engage in premarital sex.

premarital sex is not adultery.

In order for there to be adultery, there has to be a married woman involved.

Jesus said plainly that if anyone looks on a women in lust they have committed adultery with her in their hearts. There is nothing to indicate that the woman must be married for it to be considered adultery. The command against fornication is already in the 10 commandments.

Zachm531 said:

Can anyone show me where the Bible condemns polygamy? In the OT we see many instances of multiple wives and concubines. In the NT Jesus says that a marriage is between one man and one woman but he doesnt say anything about multiple marriages and/or concubines. Im not taking a side here and am interested to see the scripture provided.

in 1 Timothy 3:2 a distinction is made that a church elder must be a man of one wife but other than that I dont see it condemned

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I agree. We are not polygamous but, in some circles, we are in a polyamorous relationship.

The main reason why the NT does not explicitly address polygamy is that the practice had disappeared by then; Roman law did not permit it. A man in classical antiquity might have concubines, but he was only allowed one legal wife.

Sounds to me "one man and one woman" says quite a lot about multiple marriages and/or concubines!