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Let them be Anathema

Gal 1:8,9 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

Obviously once again Paul is trying to wake Christians up to the seriousness of this matter. The gravity of his words and the fact he repeats this curse twice shows just how seriously he takes this matter. Getting the gospel right is an extremely serious matter upon which the eternal souls of men hang. And those who teach and preach will be judged more strictly as James says, "Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly."James 3:1 For false teachers not only condemn themselves, but drag others along to hell as well, much like Jesus said of the Pharisees, "woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in." Mt 23:13 And the false teachers Paul was referring to were much like the Pharisees in their doctrine. "Watch out and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees." Mt 16:6

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The most common false gospels that I hear today:

Salvation is by grace through faith "plus works."
Salvation is "initially" by grace through faith, but is "maintained by works."
Salvation is by grace through faith plus "these" works and just not "those" works.
Salvation is by grace through faith "plus sinless perfection."
Salvation is by "grace plus law, faith plus works."
 
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"They zealously court you, but for no good; yes, they want to exclude you, that you may be zealous for them." (Galatians 4:17)

Ones might speak the real Gospel, also, in order to lure people to them.

And ones can promise you everything you want, in order to get you to marry them.

But if we are depending on Jesus to guide us and we are not greedy . . . and not about ourselves . . . it is hard to fool us like this.

A practical way of knowing someone is not right is if the person is trying to more and more isolate you with that person. It says they are trying to "exclude" us; I see this can mean to isolate us away from the ones good for us, so then they can take us over.

So, with having the real Gospel, we need the right motives. The disciples at first knew who Jesus is, but they had motives not acceptable to Jesus.
 
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The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16).

To "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.

The gospel is not a set of rituals to perform, a code of laws to be obeyed or a check list of good works to accomplish as a prerequisite for salvation.
 
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Daniel 7:10
A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
 
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The most common false gospels that I hear today:

Salvation is by grace through faith "plus works."
Salvation is "initially" by grace through faith, but is "maintained by works."
Salvation is by grace through faith plus "these" works and just not "those" works.
Salvation is by grace through faith "plus sinless perfection."
Salvation is by "grace plus law, faith plus works."
In Romans 2;6-7, Paul clearly declares eternal life is awarded on the basis of how we live.
 
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In Romans 2;6-7, Paul clearly declares eternal life is awarded on the basis of how we live.
If you read Romans 2:6-10 in isolation from the rest of the book of Romans, then you might conclude that Paul was teaching salvation by works. However, as you read and study these passages, you need to keep in mind that these verses do not describe how one becomes saved, but the way the saved (and unsaved) conduct their lives. These works done are the result of, not the means or basis of receiving salvation.

So patient continuance in well doing, seeking for glory, honor, and immortality; (vs. 7) is not at all set forth as the means of their procuring eternal life, but as a description of those to whom God does render life eternal. *Notice that ALL who receive eternal life are described as such, everyone who does good (vs. 10).

Good deeds flow from a heart that is saved and evil deeds flow from a heart that is unsaved. Verse 8 - but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness--indignation and wrath. *Notice that ALL who do not receive eternal life are described as such, everyone who does evil (vs. 9).

What those passages convey is that though our deeds are judged by God, it's not the good deeds themselves which are the basis or means by which we receive salvation, but the type of deeds expose whether our heart was saved, or not. These deeds done out of faith are the fruit, not the root of salvation.

If Paul wanted to teach that we are saved by works, then he would have clearly stated that we are saved through faith and works in Ephesians 2:8,9 and that we are justified by faith and works in Romans 5:1 but that is clearly NOT what Paul said. Also see (Romans 4:2-6; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9 etc..).
 
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If you read Romans 2:6-10 in isolation from the rest of the book of Romans, then you might conclude that Paul was teaching salvation by works. However, as you read and study these passages, you need to keep in mind that these verses do not describe how one becomes saved, but the way the saved (and unsaved) conduct their lives. These works done are the result of, not the means or basis of receiving salvation.
Read Paul's exacts words, please:

God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

It is not linguistically possible to be more clear: Paul is saying that eternal life is granted according to what we have done.

I agree that Paul says other things elsewhere that make it challenging to figure out his view on salvation.

But, unless you do not believe God inspired Paul to write the words above, we have to accommodate the truth that, at the end, it will be, yes, good works that are examined as the basis for granting eternal life.
 
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What those passages convey is that though our deeds are judged by God, it's not the good deeds themselves which are the basis or means by which we receive salvation, but the type of deeds expose whether our heart was saved, or not. These deeds done out of faith are the fruit, not the root of salvation.
We are close to agreeing but not quite. I would agree that, given the other things that Paul writes, we have to believe that only those who have placed faith in Jesus can pass the "good works" test of Romans 2:6-7.

But Paul does say that eternal life is granted according to what we have done. Perhaps this difference is inconsequential, but we need to honour what Paul actually writes.
 
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What those passages convey is that though our deeds are judged by God, it's not the good deeds themselves which are the basis or means by which we receive salvation, but the type of deeds expose whether our heart was saved, or not. These deeds done out of faith are the fruit, not the root of salvation.
I agree with this way of characterizing things.
 
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Read Paul's exacts words, please:

God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

It is not linguistically possible to be more clear: Paul is saying that eternal life is granted according to what we have done.

I agree that Paul says other things elsewhere that make it challenging to figure out his view on salvation.

But, unless you do not believe God inspired Paul to write the words above, we have to accommodate the truth that, at the end, it will be, yes, good works that are examined as the basis for granting eternal life.
This is what happens when you don’t properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching your conclusion on doctrine and you end up confusing descriptive passages of scripture with prescriptive passages of scripture. The end result is salvation by works.
 
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This is what happens when you don’t properly harmonize scripture with scripture and you confuse descriptive passages of scripture with prescriptive passages of scripture. The end result is salvation by works.
To be fair, you do not know my position. As my later posts show, I am in substantial agreement with you. However, as I am sure you will know, there are people out there who simply refuse to accept Romans 2:6-7. It appears that you and I both accept it, and basically see the good works as "evidence" of salvation that is rooted in faith. But, again, without the evidence - no salvation.
 
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To be fair, you do not know my position. As my later posts show, I am in substantial agreement with you. However, as I am sure you will know, there are people out there who simply refuse to accept Romans 2:6-7. It appears that you and I both accept it, and basically see the good works as "evidence" of salvation that is rooted in faith. But, again, without the evidence - no salvation.
At first it sounded like you were going in a whole different direction. It sounds like we would agree then that faith in Christ is the root of salvation and works are the fruit. No fruit at all would demonstrate there is no root. All genuine believers are fruitful, but not all are equally fruitful.
 
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1Cor 16:22 . . If anyone love not The Lord, let him be accursed.

One's love of The Lord is exemplified by loyalty.

John 14:15 . . If you love me, you will comply with what I command.

John 14:21 . .Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me.

John 14:23-24 . . If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching . . He who does not love me will not obey my teaching.

Does a Muslim have to be a terrorist to be accursed? No; they only have to be a loyal follower of Muhammad ibn `Abdullāh instead of a loyal follower of Jesus Christ; same goes for Atheists, Nonreligious, Baha'i, Buddhists, Chinese Universalists, Confucianists, Jains, Kabbalah mystics, Shintoists, Spiritists, Taoists, Zoroastrians, Jews, Sikhs, and Hindus-- they're all accursed and there is nothing to be gained in arguing about it.

How many people am I talking about? Well, as of mid 2014, worldwide there were:

550,000 Scientologists
1,500,000 Mormons
8,200,000 Jehovah's Witnesses
7,794,000 Baha'i
515,951,000 Buddhists
451,292,000 Chinese Folk Religionists
8,424,000 Confucianists
974,597,000 Hindus
5,567,000 Jains
14,142,000 Jews
1,673,590 Muslims
2,819,000 Shintoists
24,918,000 Sikhs
14,183,000 Spiritists
8,660,000 Taoists
196,000 Zoroastrians
828,594,000 Nonreligious
692,111,000 Agnostics
136,483,000 Atheists.

The grand total of just those categories alone is 5,369,071,000

If those figures are in the ball park, and if classical Christianity's gospel is the reality; then a minimum of at least 75% of the earth's 2014 population of 7.2 billion people were accursed, and thus in grave danger of the sum of all fears.
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