Is it OK for Jesus to cause a Bible to drip oil?

Do you have a problem with Jesus causing a Bible to drip oil?

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  • Yes

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  • I think that Jesus can do whatever he chooses to do anywhere He pleases!

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  • Why would Jesus do such an awesome miracle in the USA???????

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This is inspiring.....
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Being here in Kelowna, listening to the heart beat of the ‘Church’ and stealing away to listen to our Heavenly Fathers heartbeat...my personal sense is that we still don’t ‘see’ through the lens of the Kingdom of God...we’re still out of sync.
Keep praying.
After a two day journey, I needed a long sleep but early morning, on February 18; in a vision, I saw a hand extended to me and I saw a big bottle of oil being offered to me - ready to be poured out, and I reached out to take a hold what was being offered and in so doing I almost fell out of bed, and needless to say I was wide awake at 2:38 in the morning!
I believe we are being offered fresh oil!
I believe the Lord wants to anoint afresh his holy redeemed people. Fresh oil to make their face shine in the midst of darkness!
I believe the Lord wants to pour out the oil of gladness! The balm of Gilead will bind up the wounds of the wounded and the broken will arise in joy and in gladness!
All we’ve got to do is receive it!
Is anyone here like me? Do you need to confess you’re not where you should be?
You can receive fresh oil - right now where you are!
The anointing with oil represents the Holy Spirit poured out and smeared into God’s child.
The anointing is the specific application of the Holy Spirit on an individual bringing transformation and enablement.
When David was anointed He became a different man.
Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the midst of his brothers. And the Spirit of the Lord came on David from that day forward. The Spirit came where the oil was placed. It is the Spirit of the Lord that enable us to do mighty exploits to the glory and honour of our Lord Jesus. The anointing enable us to fully become all God proclaimed us to be. We cannot accomplish our destiny assignments without the Spirit of the Lord strong in our lives. We need the anointing of the Holy Spirit.
Our prayer should be, “God, give us fresh oil! We need fresh oil! We receive your gift!
Then declare: “I am anointed with fresh oil!
So be refreshed now - in Jesus’ Name!
 
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BTW mate, just to make sure I make as many enemies as possible in this thread I'll ask you this: Are you ready to get some of that oil and take it to the street? To the hospitals and clinics, to the drug enslaved street people, to a lost and hurting world? You profess to believe that it's the genuine article, why aren't you using it to the glory of God? If this stuff is as advertised, we ought to be getting it into out where it can do the most good, and show the power of God in a way that unbelievers will never be able to gainsay. I can't do it because I legitimately don't think it's true, but I'm willing to be persuaded by real world evidence.

What say you? Pious platitudes are all very well, but actions speak louder than words. Are you willing to put it to the proof?


This is an excellent question!!!!!

Yes... I will try to get some of that oil!!! And yes... I will get out there with it and three times in this last week after researching about this oil...... I took a small amount of olive oil in the bottom of a mug...... and I walked around our home and I pronounced as many names of and for our Messiah that I could think of...... and I pronounced those names into that oil and then I drank it ...... (since I don't yet have any of that oil from Dalton Georgia consecrated olive oil was the best that I could do so far)........

I pronounced.. .Yeshua our Saviour.... Yeshua our healer.... Yeahus our Shalom - peace.... Yeshua our King... Yeshua our High Priest....... Yeshua our Provider...... Yeshua our Guide....... I know He has more names than that but that was the ones that I could remember off the top of my head.........

I already feel less muscle pain than a week ago and I certainly felt the Presence of God more powerfully yesterday than in a long time..... So your question is a good one...... Thank you... you have given me something to pray about at my place of work as well........ I feel that your question is an inspired one which proves that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is giving YOU something of Isaiah 45 verse one...... just because you are doing what the Holy Spirit wants you to do so far........ which is research this.......... and your skepticism............... that is the truth of where you are at at this time.......

That ancient Gentile King Cyrus had an amazing calling on his life.......... so don't stop researching..............


Thus saith Jehovah to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him, and I will loose the loins of kings; to open the doors before him, and the gates shall not be shut: 2 I will go before thee, and make the rough places smooth; I will break in pieces the doors of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron; 3 and I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that it is I, Jehovah, who call thee by thy name, even the God of Israel.

For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel my chosen, I have called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

5 I am Jehovah, and there is none else; besides me there is no God. I will gird thee, though thou hast not known me; 6 that they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none besides me: I am Jehovah, and there is none else.


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13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will make straight all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let my exiles go free, not for price nor reward, saith Jehovah of hosts.


All of us are like that Cyrus guy to at least some degree because even if we've been in church for decades..... none of us understand Messiah Yeshua - Jesus fully...... we understand only in part......

1Co 13:12

For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
 
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Clearly. So how about answering why these resurrections do not raise any news ?

Why do you think Trump pressuring Iran foreign minister is bigger new than miracle oil resurrecting people and hamsters?

You would think someone was interested to see dead people walking ? Maybe hear what they have to say about the afterlife ?

You would think that those vials of oil would sell for millions of people who had them ?

You would think that even people who did not have them would try to sell counterfeits (of amusingly original counterfeit) just to get quick buck ?

But.....nothing..........if you weight the evidence against your credulity what would be the logical conclusion ?

Loving animals and having blind faith on conmen is hardly a reason to leave your sanity behind.


It is coming......
this was predicted several years ago but it has to gain momentum......

Do you believe a massive Holy Spirit tsunami is coming?



The Great Tsunami | prod.morningstarministries.org

We will see events like hundreds of thousands of people gathering spontaneously for prayer and worship, becoming the biggest news stories of the day. News teams will be following apostolic teams and evangelists like they do politicians and business leaders now. Much more is happening now than most are aware of, or that is making the news, but when the Lord “suddenly comes into His temple,” it will be the news, and the whole world will be aware of it.

There will be individual newscasts from secular networks that will cause more to come to Christ than Christian networks have in their entire existence. This is not to negate what has been accomplished by Christian networks but rather to stress the impact that this revival will have. We will go through a period when the news of the great things God is doing will crowd out just about all other news around the world.

Both the Welsh and the Azusa Street Revivals made front-page news around the world repeatedly for nearly two years. That was just a foretaste, a seed being planted for what is to come. The coming move of God will in some ways be a composite of many of the great moves of the past, but in one basic way it will be different—this will not just be a move of God, but it will be God moving.

This is not just semantics, because every true move of God is at least initiated by God, but He will bless many things He will not inhabit. His manifest presence will be so great in what is coming that people will not chase after individual truths, or acts of God, but they will be after the Lord Himself. He will be the conversation, not just what He does. This is a move that will lift up Jesus. When He is lifted up, all will be drawn to Him, not just to doctrines, projects, or missions, but to Him.

Doctrine certainly has its place, and there is a great need for sound biblical doctrine to be imparted to all new believers, and for all other believers to build stronger foundations on His truth. There is a need for projects and missions that are His will, but “the main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing,” and the Main Thing is Jesus. The true apostolic Gospel was Jesus: “They preached Jesus and the resurrection from the dead.” Jesus will again be the Message, and it will be what He is doing that gets the attention.
 
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A further update:

Home - His Name Is Flowing Oil

February 14, 2020

To the Body of Christ

We recently posted notice that the oil from the Bible has paused flowing, and that as a result, the team was ceasing meetings on Tuesdays at the Wink and taking time to pray and seek God about future ministry.
Since the last meeting on February 11, the Times Free Press newspaper has published an article which calls into question the integrity of the miracle of flowing oil. It contains an allegation that Jerry Pearce whose Bible it is “often bought large amounts of mineral oil.” It also says that the newspaper had a vial of oil tested and that “the tests found Pearce’s oil is petroleum-derived and the results “strongly suggest that the oil sample is mineral oil.”
The conclusion the writer is inviting people to reach is that the oil that has been distributed over time is not of supernatural origin, but rather, is being supplied from the purchased oil. Jerry states that he has, in fact, bought mineral oil from Tractor Supply, but has at no time added it to the vials being distributed at meetings, or to the container holding the Bible. The purchase was made without the knowledge or approval of anyone else in the ministry and we are seeking the full truth of these accusations.
Jerry acknowledges that the credibility of the miracle is in question based on the information disclosed in the article. He has expressed remorse for having caused the integrity of the work of God to be questioned because of his action.
For those who have received miracles of healing and restoration in their own life, or among their circle of friends, we urge you to trust Father God for the validity of those answers to the prayer of faith.
We should take to heart the words from James 5:12-16
12 But above all, my brethren, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or with any other oath; but your yes is to be yes, and your no, no, so that you may not fall under judgment. 13 Is anyone among you suffering? Then he must pray. Is anyone cheerful? He is to sing praises. 14 Is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; 15 and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up, and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him. 16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.
It is the prayer of faith (verse 15 literally says, prayer “of” faith), not the oil itself, that restores the sick. Anointing with oil in the name of God is a biblical practice. The oil is used in recognition of His presence, but it is faith expressed in His provision for miracles that heals. The pause in the production of oil from the Bible is not a reason to cease praying the prayer of faith for any who need God’s touch.
Thank you to all who have offered prayers for others during the ministry times, and we urge you to keep praying.
In Christ,
The Flowing Oil Team

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

The Bible has not produced any oil since January 10th of this new year. The flow has paused before, even for a week or so, and is not always consistent, but at this point it has been almost a month and has not restarted. After today, February 4, 2020, we will not be able to distribute oil. If the oil resumes its flow, we will resume distribution.

From the very beginning of this sign and wonder we have always considered that God started it, and He can stop it anytime according to His timing and will. If the oil does not begin to flow again, we in no way grieve.

As we have expressed continually, this is not “magic oil”. This oil is a point of contact that has helped activate believers in their priesthood. The oil has been a faith builder, and a clear conduit for people to experience a touch from God. We have always said this is about Jesus!

This coming Tuesday, February 11, 2020, will be the final gathering at the Wink Theater. We are taking a short break from the prayer meetings to rest, pray and seek the Lord as to which direction we feel He is leading us at this time. God has shown Himself mighty at these gatherings. We rejoice at the countless miraculous testimonies that have been shared each and every Tuesday.

We will announce on the website future plans as we know them.

We trust Him!

In Christ,

The Flowing Oil Team

Song of Songs 1:3 TPT

THE OIL IS IN US

Many people feel like there is no hope for healing unless they can obtain a vial of oil. In all of our meetings we have continually taught that this is not “magic oil”. The oil is a sign, and the Lord has used it to awaken callings and get His children moving and activated in their priesthood as believers. What we have witnessed is when people have the vial of oil in their hands boldness has increased. Many who would have hesitated to pray for others have had the courage to move by the unction of the Holy Spirit and operate in their priesthood by laying on of hands and praying for God’s people who need a touch from Him. The result has been uncounted miraculous healings, salvations, deliverances, and much more.

It is so important to understand this…..the Lord has sent the oil, and it is wonderful, and we are so grateful for it. It is a point of contact, similar to Acts 19:11-12 where the Bible describes that “God was performing extraordinary miracles by Paul’s hands, so that even facecloths or aprons that had touched his skin were brought to the sick, and the diseases left them, and the evil spirits came out of them.” This is the scripture where the church tradition of anointed prayer cloths has come from.

Before the oil flowing from the Bible came, God was healing. God has been healing His children for 2000 years. Jesus healed all who came to Him for healing (Matthew 12:15, Luke 6:19 and more). Further, the disciples carried out the healing ministry of Jesus (Matthew 10:1, Luke 9:1). Then, when Jesus ascended, He promised to send the Holy Spirit to LIVE IN US. We are told to continue the ministry of healing that Jesus and the disciples carried (Luke 9:2, Matthew 10:8, Luke 10:9 and more).

There are many scriptures that describe oil as a symbol of Holy Spirit. The very word “anoint” means to smear with oil. Now, we are the temple of God, Holy Spirit living in us. Thus, THE OIL IS IN US! (I Corinthians 6:19, II Corinthians 6:16, Ephesians 2:20, I Peter 2:4-5).

Therefore, even without the “point of contact” oil, we pray that your understanding of who you are in Christ grows, your faith grows, and that you can confidently operate in your priesthood, praying the prayer of faith, for physical healing or whatever the need is, knowing God (Holy Spirit…Oil) lives in you!
 
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"Jerry states that he has, in fact, bought mineral oil from Tractor Supply, but has at no time added it to the vials being distributed at meetings, or to the container holding the Bible. The purchase was made without the knowledge or approval of anyone else in the ministry and we are seeking the full truth of these accusations.
Jerry acknowledges that the credibility of the miracle is in question based on the information disclosed in the article. He has expressed remorse for having caused the integrity of the work of God to be questioned because of his action."

IOW.....crap.....we got caught.

Let's not forget that that oil was tested and found to be almost an exact match for the type of oil purchased from Tractor Supply.
 
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I admit it that deciding to go and buy mineral oil when you are in the middle of something like this is a terrible error. This will eventually work out for good but this was a terrible decision...... I've made some really bad decisions myself so I am in no position to judge but this was a serious error under those circumstances.

Ministry with Bible allegedly producing oil shuts down, but continues to defend its work

Pearce said in a Tuesday interview he did not think it was relevant to mention the purchase to the Times Free Press. He said he bought eight gallons of mineral oil from Tractor Supply one time to pour on the Bible but God told him to throw it away.

"I was going to pour that oil on the Bible when the Bible quit producing oil," Pearce said. "And the Lord checked my spirit on it."

The ministry's online statement said, "[Pearce] acknowledges that the credibility of the miracle is in question based on the information disclosed in the article. He has expressed remorse for having caused the integrity of the work of God to be questioned because of his action."
 
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Thank you for giving me these links. I went through about four of those articles already and they were very informative.

My guess is that after hearing so many testimonies of healings Jerry seems to have decided that he had to assist God..... which was a terrible idea. If this began as a real miracle and if some of the oil out there is genuine...... and is flowing.... .then this whole thing may not be over yet?????? (Some people report that as they anointed people with oil the oil came back in the vials which is interesting. Faith is indeed a powerful force).

To whatever degree I may have been leading you astray by beginning this thread..... my apologies........ but I do highly recommend this testimony by near death experiencer Pastor Henry Gruver who had a brush with death back in 1984 that has really changed how he approaches his ministry all over the world.


Amazing Encounters with Angels, Demons & Heaven! | Henry Gruver on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural!

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It is coming......
this was predicted several years ago but it has to gain momentum......

Ever think that someone saying Holy Spiritual Tsunami is coming is bit more vague then a guy saying his dead neighbour with death certificate got Holy oil thrown to his face is now alive and kicking ?
 
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Ever think that someone saying Holy Spiritual Tsunami is coming is bit more vague then a guy saying his dead neighbour with death certificate got Holy oil thrown to his face is now alive and kicking ?


My impression is that the oil from the Bible began for real.......
but after Jerry heard so many astonishing testimonies........
and then the oil stops for a few days to test him..... and he
comes up with a great idea to help God. I suspect that he decided that
if the oil from the Bible would hit ordinary mineral oil..... that the ordinary mineral oil
would be made holy.... and would be nearly as good for anointing as the real oil was.

So..... I think that Johnny Pearce should come out with full disclosure and give a legal release to the farm supply company to give a full list of all purchases by him over these last five years.

Mr. Jerry Pearce needs to wallow in his guilt....... as each Christian should be willing to do
once we understand our place in Leviticus 16:10?

Each and every Christian is typified by Barabbas - Bar Abbas and we should consider
our own sins as "notable" as the sins of Bar Abbas were as well!

My pride.... my spiritual lethargy.... my self-righteousness .... my arrogance... my tendency to consider my self well informed and not a mere 'sheep' ..... is actually the way that Satan began his fall into pride and eventual rebellion?

I DennisTate am similar to Bar Abbas - Barabbas in far more ways than I would want to admit at first. I am in no position to look down on Mr. Jerry Pearce although there is no denying that his error was serious!

My conversation with the Rabbi.....
 
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Never. They must give it away. I still have a few vials I got from them.
Wait a minute...you got some of that stuff? Then you need to get out there to the hospitals and use it on the sick and injured.
 
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Never. They must give it away. I still have a few vials I got from them.
The problem with long threads... my question was answered long ago. I realize they haven't sold oil, at least according to provided videos.
 
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Never. They must give it away. I still have a few vials I got from them.


My theory is that Mr. Jerry Pearce probably had a genuine miracle starting but during one of those times when the oil stopped flowing.........
he had heard so many powerful testimonies of healings and people breaking out of addictions that he just had to do something to keep the miracles flowing........
so he compromised.

I believe that his error is serious but......
if he is willing to really come clean and legally give permission for the farm supply store to publish their results he could turn this into a totally different type of ministry?

I suspect that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus might not cause his Bible to continue to leak oil but...... he can go off in an entirely different direction. IF... his wife had been with him on those occasions when he went to buy mineral oil...... and if he had listened to her if she had questioned his wisdom in doing that...... this mess likely could have been avoided but..... he is Pentecostal and he was taught certain things about the governmental structure of the home......... that might not be exactly as Messiah Yeshua - Jesus actually intended.

The original Hebrew and Greek often have a quite different possible meaning than the seemingly simple and authoritative translation that the KJV gives us.

English is a legalistic language that was formed partly to produce the loophole free clause.... or piece of legislation.......... as parliament argued various nuances of law over these last thousand years or so.

Hebrew and Greek are very, very very different from English and it is said that The Amplified Version is the most accurate translation available at this time.
 
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The problem with long threads... my question was answered long ago. I realize they haven't sold oil, at least according to provided videos.

My first one I got through the mail just by requesting it. Then I went to a meeting on the other side of the state and picked up about ten more from one of the many boxes of vials they were giving away.
 
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My theory is that Mr. Jerry Pearce probably had a genuine miracle starting but during one of those times when the oil stopped flowing.........
he had heard so many powerful testimonies of healings and people breaking out of addictions that he just had to do something to keep the miracles flowing........
so he compromised.

I believe that his error is serious but......
if he is willing to really come clean and legally give permission for the farm supply store to publish their results he could turn this into a totally different type of ministry?

I suspect that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus might not cause his Bible to continue to leak oil but...... he can go off in an entirely different direction. IF... his wife had been with him on those occasions when he went to buy mineral oil...... and if he had listened to her if she had questioned his wisdom in doing that...... this mess likely could have been avoided but..... he is Pentecostal and he was taught certain things about the governmental structure of the home......... that might not be exactly as Messiah Yeshua - Jesus actually intended.

The original Hebrew and Greek often have a quite different possible meaning than the seemingly simple and authoritative translation that the KJV gives us.

English is a legalistic language that was formed partly to produce the loophole free clause.... or piece of legislation.......... as parliament argued various nuances of law over these last thousand years or so.

Hebrew and Greek are very, very very different from English and it is said that The Amplified Version is the most accurate translation available at this time.

From what I read, Jerry didn't contaminate the Bible oil by adding any of the mineral oil to is, and I have to believe him. I just wish he had returned it instead of throwing it away.
 
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I suspect that he decided that
if the oil from the Bible would hit ordinary mineral oil..... that the ordinary mineral oil
would be made holy.... and would be nearly as good for anointing as the real oil was.

This just goes beyond idiocy. Some of the oil was miracle and some was hoax but combined they create bigger miracle ? Does that sound like a miracle ?

Imagine if he throw the bottle of oil to the Atlantic. Every fish that dies would be resurrected, the miracle spreading would engulf the planet vaporising water would rain the blessing to everywhere on the planet everyone would get resurrected( probably with gold teeth) and all shall fall to their knees and praise pastor Taylor and The Lord or CharismaticLady if she chooses to use on of her divine vials to transform the planet.

Divine homeopathy. Praise the Lord. How could this be a hoax. The tsunami is coming. We leave the realm of reason and enter idiocracy.

My first one I got through the mail just by requesting it. Then I went to a meeting on the other side of the state and picked up about ten more from one of the many boxes of vials they were giving away.

So you can resurrect about ten people or animals. That is so awesome. Do get a press present it should be a great occasion. Save one vial to throw in the ocean to save everyone of course.

Or shall you try one in secret for some dead bird, figure out the stuff does not actually do anything, then compose some brown matter reason why the miracle is not working for you then store the precious vials forever with some faint notion they will start working at later date ?
 
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