Earth's Sudden End.

JackRT · Feb 18, 2020

I have heard of two cases in which a person was hit by a meteorite and lived.

St_Worm2 · Feb 18, 2020

pitabread said:
The problem is that I've seen far too many Christians here advocating that worrying about climate change is irrelevant for exactly the reasons you describe: they believe that the Earth's fate is out of their hands in lieu of some sort of divine providence.

Hello again pitabread, I post here nearly everyday, but I don't remember seeing a Christian advocating that climate change is irrelevant because the earth is going to end sometime in the future (though anything is possible I suppose, especially when it comes down to what people choose to believe

).

On the other hand, I have seen many Christians (and non-Christians alike) who believe that "climate change" is either 1. fictitious, in whole or in part or 2. not the immediate/severe threat that it is so often touted to be (and that therefore, neither immediate nor extreme measures need to be taken to combat it).

--David

SkyWriting · Feb 18, 2020

Oscarr said:
The chance of another plane hitting the house would be five billion to one!

And that is way more likely than life being extinguished.

SkyWriting · Feb 18, 2020

JackRT said:
I have heard of two cases in which a person was hit by a meteorite and lived.

There ya go. Life is resilient!

On Mars, with the thin unbreathable atmosphere.....oh...never mind the stupidity of it. It's like looking forward to years of living with a plastic bag over your head. And another one to pee in. I love the luxury of both air and water with the occasional fresh food.

DennisTate · Feb 18, 2020

Oscarr said:
I was watching a Youtube video about colonising Mars. The speaker made this statement:

"Our world could end very suddenly" He said our world is dependent upon the whim of our galaxy, and that a reasonably sized asteriod could hit the earth and extinguish all life.

He then went on to say, "What if everything that mankind had, will, and desire to accomplish just ended and went to nothing?" I found that a very prophetic statement even though it was made by a secular scientist.

(Here's the link to the video for those who are interested in watching it:

)

What is going to happen is that Jesus will come back to this world unexpectedly, and after having had His 1000 year reign, will roll up the universe, destroy this world and create a whole new one. This means that everything we are doing to try and save the planet will all come to nothing. The whole history and achievement of mankind, all the libraries, and information storage that has documented man's progress in knowledge will be burned up in an instant of time.

Of course, the scientist, who believes that mankind evolved in Africa and spread out around the world, would not believe that the world will end in the way the Bible says it will.

I just found this interesting enough to start a thread so that we all can have a lively, stimulating, and respectful discussion about it.

I am on a very different page than he is due to what I glean from Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and the minor prophets not to mention several near death experience accounts that sure sound a lot like what the Prophets wrote.

Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

The image of the future that they gave me then, and it was their image, not one that I created, surprised me. My image had previously been sort of like Star Wars, where everything was space age, plastics, and technology.

The future that they showed me was almost no technology at all. What everybody, absolutely everybody, in this euphoric future spent most of their time doing was raising children. The chief concern of people was children, and everybody considered children to be the most precious commodity in the world.

And when a person became an adult, there was no sense of anxiety, nor hatred, nor competition.

There was this enormous sense of trust and mutual respect. If a person, in this view of the future, became disturbed, then the community of people all cared about the disturbed person falling away from the harmony of the group. Spiritually, through prayer and love, the others would elevate the afflicted person.

What people did with the rest of their time was that they gardened, with almost no physical effort. They showed me that plants, with prayer, would produce huge fruits and vegetables.

People, in unison, could control the climate of the planet through prayer. Everybody would work with mutual trust and the people would call the rain, when needed, and the sun to shine.

Animals lived with people, in harmony.

People, in this best of all worlds, weren't interested in knowledge; they were interested in wisdom. This was because they were in a position where anything they needed to know, in the knowledge category, they could receive simply through prayer. Everything, to them, was solvable. They could do anything they wanted to do.

In this future, people had no wanderlust, because they could, spiritually, communicate with everyone else in the world. There was no need to go elsewhere. They were so engrossed with where they were and the people around them that they didn't have to go on vacation. Vacation from what? They were completely fulfilled and happy.

Carl Emerson · Feb 18, 2020

SkyWriting said:
There ya go. Life is resilient!

On Mars, with the thin unbreathable atmosphere.....oh...never mind the stupidity of it. It's like looking forward to years of living with a plastic bag over your head. And another one to pee in. I love the luxury of both air and water with the occasional fresh food.

I have a fiend Who was hit by lightening and survived...

She has a PhD.

pitabread · Feb 18, 2020

St_Worm2 said:
Hello again pitabread, I post here nearly everyday, but I don't remember seeing a Christian advocating that climate change is irrelevant because the earth is going to end sometime in the future (though anything is possible I suppose, especially when it comes down to what people choose to believe ).

On the other hand, I have seen many Christians (and non-Christians alike) who believe that "climate change" is either 1. fictitious, in whole or in part or 2. not the immediate/severe threat that it is so often touted to be (and that therefore, neither immediate nor extreme measures need to be taken to combat it).

--David

Spend some time in climate change threads and you'll definitely run into the former. Possibility not specific to the end of the Earth per se, but definitely in the context of the belief that God and not people control the planet's future.

Carl Emerson · Feb 18, 2020

DennisTate said:
I am on a very different page than he is due to what I glean from Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and the minor prophets not to mention several near death experience accounts that sure sound a lot like what the Prophets wrote.

Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

Your post does not summarise your position on the subject.

Can you do this please?

pitabread · Feb 18, 2020

Carl Emerson said:
I dont hear him doing that, stewardship is fundamental to faith, but the predicted end should not be denied...

Like I said earlier, nobody is denying that the Earth will one day cease to be. It's a question of the nature of the prediction.

Carl Emerson · Feb 18, 2020

pitabread said:
Like I said earlier, nobody is denying that the Earth won't one day cease to be. It's a question of the nature of the prediction.

Will or wont?

Rev 21:
1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.

What is the nature of that prediction?

pitabread · Feb 18, 2020

Carl Emerson said:
Will or wont?

Oops, double negative. Fixed.

Rev 21:
1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.

What is the nature of that prediction?

My view of the Book of Revelation as a whole is that it is little more than speculative fiction.

So the nature of that prediction is fictional.

Carl Emerson · Feb 18, 2020

pitabread said:
Oops, double negative. Fixed.

My view of the Book of Revelation as a whole is that it is little more than speculative fiction.

So the nature of that prediction is fictional.

Enjoy your day - while it lasts...

com7fy8 · Feb 18, 2020

Oscarr said:
everything we are doing to try and save the planet will all come to nothing.

I think there are ways we should take care of what we've got. But this needs to be according to what really can make a difference.

One thing I think of > while things are processing, the earth is getting cooler. I understand this means the earth is contracting in volume, so the crust is adjusting to holding in a smaller and smaller volume. Therefore, the crust crunches against itself, causing earthquakes and there are spurts of lava because of pressure in the inner molten earth as the crust shifts where it is compressing. This is only my guess, from what I suppose I know. But this can mean, in any case, that the earth is getting cooler . . . as the inner core cools. So, in the long run, even if atmospheric stuff gets warmer, eventually the overall cooling could win out . . . except ones of us who believe the Bible can trust the earth will come to God's way of ending it, then bringing the new earth.

But I do believe it is good to take care of our resources.

Strathos · Feb 18, 2020

Revelation 11:18 said:
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Yttrium · Feb 18, 2020

Every generation of Christians has been expecting the Second Coming to happen in their lifetime for the past couple thousand years. My own paternal grandparents were convinced that they would live to see the end times, based on their reading of the Bible. They were rather disappointed when it didn't happen.

It's best not to get impatient. It certainly wouldn't make good sense to try and hurry things along. That would probably come back to bite you.

pitabread · Feb 18, 2020

Carl Emerson said:
Enjoy your day - while it lasts...

Is that a threat?

Kenny'sID · Feb 18, 2020

pitabread said:
Using religion as an excuse to abdicate responsibility is shameful.

Not all of us think the universe just happened, and to do so is beyond shameful, it's beyond ridiculous, so call it religion or whatever, but putting our faith in a creator over, well...a nothing, just seems to make more sense.

IOW, what the OP suggests is not the least bit shameful, it's a much, much more intelligent stance than the general alternative

Bungle_Bear · Feb 18, 2020

pitabread said:
Is that a threat?

I'm sure he just means that you only have a few hours until midnight, then a new day will begin :oldthumbsup:

Subduction Zone · Feb 18, 2020

Oscarr said:
It's what Christopher Columbus said to Queen Isabella: "The world is not flat; it's you who is flat!"

You have to think carefully about that one.

Actually if you knew the history of Christopher Columbus you would have known that he was wrong.

Carl Emerson · Feb 19, 2020

pitabread said:
Is that a threat?

No, just a reflection on what Jesus said...

Ignoring the warnings and classifying His word as speculative fiction reminds me of this passage...

Luke 17
" ....just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27 they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 “It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building; 29 but on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. 30 “It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed. 31 “On that day, the one who is on the housetop and whose goods are in the house must not go down to take them out; and likewise the one who is in the field must not turn back. 32 “Remember Lot’s wife. 33 “Whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. 34 “I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left. 35 “There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left. 36 “Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left.”

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