Is it OK for Jesus to cause a Bible to drip oil?

DennisTate · Feb 18, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
You have no idea what I do and don't do, but I know what you would never do. Believe God still acts.

I have no desire to waste any more time on an arrogant mocker of the things of God.

Good night.

On the plus side..... sarcasm against the acts of the Holy Spirit may be the second most powerful thing that people do....... (after praying in fervent believing prayer)? Yes..... sarcasm against a genuine miracle of the Holy Spirit is a very dangerous thing to do but....... Satan has so muddied the water that I do believe that this sin can be covered by the Blood of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus as well.

The rather scary verses about blasphemy against the Holy Spirit looks somewhat different in our time period where a case can be presented that perhaps The Holy Spirit might be generally the Divine Feminine of the YHWH family?????

It is proverbial to not make fun of somebody's mom..... and it seems that The Comforter - The Holy Spirit might just be identifiable with the feminine aspects of the Elohim of Genesis 1 verses 26 and 27?????

Matthew 12

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Jonathan Walkerin · Feb 18, 2020

DennisTate said:
On the plus side..... sarcasm against the acts of the Holy Spirit may be the second most powerful thing that people do......

What evidence makes you think that Pastor buying mineral oil and dipping his Bible on it makes the oil able to resurrect people and hamsters ?

Why do you think that every conman doing his thing is an act of the Holy Spirit ?

Don`t you think this would be something that would cross the news threshhold ?

Don`t you think this would be extraordinary enough that people would talk about it?

Don`t you think that there would be plenty of stupid and desperate people who have lost loved ones who would do anything to get this oil. ?

But what do we hear - little girl saying her hamster rose from the dead. Powerful testimony. Right ?

And that is about it.

Ever think what psychological need you have to believe a clear hoax like this ?

Jipsah · Feb 18, 2020

DennisTate said:
On the plus side..... sarcasm against the acts of the Holy Spirit may be the second most powerful thing that people do....... (after praying in fervent believing prayer)? Yes..... sarcasm against a genuine miracle of the Holy Spirit is a very dangerous thing

The Holy Spirit doesn't do conjuring tricks. If there's anything blasphemous, it's doing conjurer's tricks and claiming it was the work of the Holy Spirit.

CharismaticLady · Feb 18, 2020

Jonathan Walkerin said:
It is delusional to think that pastor bying mineral oil from shop then dipping his Bible on it somehow makes it raise dead.

I don't know why they would say they were buying the oil. That is not true. I believe the pastors over someone's theory.

CharismaticLady · Feb 18, 2020

I love animals, so I posted about the little dead hamster coming back to life. But there were other testimonies, of course. I obviously made the mistake of casting pearls before swine.

A Realist · Feb 18, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
I obviously made the mistake of casting pearls before swine.

Generic "christianese" response when you get upset because folks are believing what you're trying to shove down their gullet.

CharismaticLady · Feb 18, 2020

A Realist said:
Generic "christianese" response when you get upset because folks are believing what you're trying to shove down their gullet.

There is a reason we should never have your knee jerk reaction against testimonies of the supernatural gifts and wonders of God.

Acts 5:
38 So in the present case, I say to you, stay away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or action is of men, it will be overthrown; 39 but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them; or else you may even be found fighting against God.”

CharismaticLady · Feb 18, 2020

@Jonathan Walkerin , @Jipsah , and @A Realist

I just would like your honest answer to let me know how far your skepticism goes.

Do any of you believe the gifts of the Holy Spirit of Mark 16:16-18 and 1 Corinthians 12 are still here today? Does God still talk to us, or just through the Bible? Did all miracles performed by God end at the death of the apostles, or even so far forward as the canonizing of Scripture and then end forever?

Jipsah · Feb 18, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
@Jonathan Walkerin , @Jipsah , and @A Realist

I just would like your honest answer to let me know how far your skepticism goes.

Do any of you believe the gifts of the Holy Spirit of Mark 16:16-18 and 1 Corinthians 12 are still here today? Does God still talk to us, or just through the Bible? Did all miracles performed by God end at the death of the apostles, or even so far forward as the canonizing of Scripture and then end forever?

God is sovereign, and He can and will do precisely as He pleases. And fraudsters still continue fleecing the flock by doing sleazy tricks and passing them off to the credulous as works of God. Been being done since Simon Magus, and before. Glad to hear that your opinions are pearls, and be assured that I esteem them as worth every penny of the price charged. But dont you think base name-calling ill becomes one of your elevated spiritual attainments?

Jipsah · Feb 18, 2020

And one more question, which I ask expecting no answer other than a torrent of abuse, but I’m gonna ask it anyway. Believing that this oil has God instilled healing properties, why DON’T you want to use it to aid sufferers in hospitals? Is there some esoteric spiritual rationale that a swine like myself can’t perceive?

A Realist · Feb 18, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
@Jonathan Walkerin , @Jipsah , and @A Realist

I just would like your honest answer to let me know how far your skepticism goes.

Do any of you believe the gifts of the Holy Spirit of Mark 16:16-18 and 1 Corinthians 12 are still here today? Does God still talk to us, or just through the Bible? Did all miracles performed by God end at the death of the apostles, or even so far forward as the canonizing of Scripture and then end forever?

Don't take my skepticism on this crazy nonsense as a sign of unbelief in other spiritual matters.

A Realist · Feb 18, 2020

Jipsah said:
Believing that this oil has God instilled healing properties, why DON’T you want to use it to aid sufferers in hospitals? Is there some esoteric spiritual rationale that a swine like myself can’t perceive?

This.
Not one single person has answered this question.

CharismaticLady · Feb 18, 2020

Jipsah said:
And one more question, which I ask expecting no answer other than a torrent of abuse, but I’m gonna ask it anyway. Believing that this oil has God instilled healing properties, why DON’T you want to use it to aid sufferers in hospitals? Is there some esoteric spiritual rationale that a swine like myself can’t perceive?

Where do you get the idea that I wouldn't. You say I don't want to use it to aid in hospitals. I never said that, so you are lying.

A Realist · Feb 18, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
Where do you get the idea that I wouldn't. You say I don't want to use it to aid in hospitals. I never said that, so you are lying.

Well, you should do it then.

CharismaticLady · Feb 18, 2020

A Realist said:
Well, you should do it then.

You have to have the oil first.

Jipsah · Feb 18, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
Where do you get the idea that I wouldn't. You say I don't want to use it to aid in hospitals. I never said that, so you are lying.

OK, I'm a swine and I'm lying, so stipulated. Now, what's hindering you from hitting the hospital and healing folks with that oil? I'm betting those folks in Dalton can turn you on to as much as you need to get you started.

CharismaticLady · Feb 18, 2020

@Jonathan Walkerin , @Jipsah , and @A Realist

I'm sure you are all proud of yourselves that you are not duped into believing the oil is really from God. But I'm sure it grieves the Spirit. And because the Holy Spirit is in me, I feel the grieving also. So I'm putting all three of you carnal mockers on ignore. That will put a stop to my having to read your reckless posts once and for all. None of you have an ounce of caution or the fear of the Lord inside you.

What I don't understand is you have a 50/50 chance of being right, and a 50/50 chance of being wrong, and what do you do? Do you err on the side of holiness? No, you are so arrogant you would rather err on the side of blasphemy!

Jipsah · Feb 18, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
because the Holy Spirit is in me, I feel the grieving also. So I'm putting all three of you carnal mockers on ignore. That will put a stop to your vileness once and for all in my life.

Fair play. I'm sure you'll pray for us. :oldthumbsup:

Jipsah · Feb 18, 2020

DennisTate said:
On the plus side..... sarcasm against the acts of the Holy Spirit may be the second most powerful thing that people do....... (after praying in fervent believing prayer)? Yes..... sarcasm against a genuine miracle of the Holy Spirit is a very dangerous thing to do but....... Satan has so muddied the water that I do believe that this sin can be covered by the Blood of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus as well.

BTW mate, just to make sure I make as many enemies as possible in this thread I'll ask you this: Are you ready to get some of that oil and take it to the street? To the hospitals and clinics, to the drug enslaved street people, to a lost and hurting world? You profess to believe that it's the genuine article, why aren't you using it to the glory of God? If this stuff is as advertised, we ought to be getting it into out where it can do the most good, and show the power of God in a way that unbelievers will never be able to gainsay. I can't do it because I legitimately don't think it's true, but I'm willing to be persuaded by real world evidence.

What say you? Pious platitudes are all very well, but actions speak louder than words. Are you willing to put it to the proof?

Jonathan Walkerin · Feb 19, 2020

CharismaticLady said:
I love animals, so I posted about the little dead hamster coming back to life. But there were other testimonies, of course. I obviously made the mistake of casting pearls before swine.

Clearly. So how about answering why these resurrections do not raise any news ?

Why do you think Trump pressuring Iran foreign minister is bigger new than miracle oil resurrecting people and hamsters?

You would think someone was interested to see dead people walking ? Maybe hear what they have to say about the afterlife ?

You would think that those vials of oil would sell for millions of people who had them ?

You would think that even people who did not have them would try to sell counterfeits (of amusingly original counterfeit) just to get quick buck ?

But.....nothing..........if you weight the evidence against your credulity what would be the logical conclusion ?

Loving animals and having blind faith on conmen is hardly a reason to leave your sanity behind.

Is it OK for Jesus to cause a Bible to drip oil?

Do you have a problem with Jesus causing a Bible to drip oil?

No

Yes

I think that Jesus can do whatever he chooses to do anywhere He pleases!

Why would Jesus do such an awesome miracle in the USA???????

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