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That's sick.
You asked me.
Of course the way you described it would be much worse.
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That's sick.
Get it straight who asked you what please.You asked me.
Of course the way you described it would be much worse.
Get it straight who asked you what please.
It's still sick.
And what of the “lasting changes” to the human being the woman carries?
Is the child in the womb a lesser moral life?
Honestly, I don't think the "changes" to a woman's body really count. I mean, women are designed to bear children and the small changes pregnancy makes to the body happens at any point a woman bears children, so unless you make your living off having slightly smaller hips and a body devoid of stretch marks then bodily changes are truly insignificant because those changes will happen at some point in a woman's life, if they haven't happened already.
I think the most drastic change for any woman to deal with during pregnancy are the hormonal changes, and to be frank even without pregnancy the mental health issues that surround any rape are tremendous, and require a great deal of counseling. So we will assume the woman is already getting counseling in some form, which will also help her cope with the physical hormonal changes as well
This warped culture seems to care more for animal life than human life. Give the embryos fur, that will save them.
That’s right both lives are of equal moral worth. Which means not murdering the child in the womb.Is the mother carrying the fetus ever a lesser moral life? Of course not! She did nothing to deserve the damage caused directly by being pregnant. She is more important than the unwanted human growing inside her all nine months. If she is disrespected during that time, she is being treated like a second-class citizen. That is never moral.
That’s right. Both lives are of equal moral worth. Which means not murdering the child in the womb.
So, you are still killing the baby, just with a pill? OK, the baby is not ripped and cut apart and does not have its skull crushed. It's less painful and traumatic, but still murder.
Equal moral worth means both the pregnant woman and child in the womb.Equal worth means never disrespecting the mom, treating her like she is less worthy than a human being that should not exist. It is never moral to force her to suffer in any way unless Jesus would do it.
The mom never loses her moral worth just because she conceived an unwanted baby. If you only say just because the baby has moral worth it should not be killed, you are saying she has no moral worth at all as long as she is pregnant. There is no way around that. If you truly believe the mom has moral worth - and all Christians are obligated to do so in the Bible - then you do not want to force her to carry a life she had tried to avoid conceiving against her will when she is suffering mentally and physically as a result.
Equal worth means never disrespecting the mom, treating her like she is less worthy than a human being that should not exist. It is never moral to force her to suffer in any way unless Jesus would do it.
The mom never loses her moral worth just because she conceived an unwanted baby. If you only say just because the baby has moral worth it should not be killed, you are saying she has no moral worth at all as long as she is pregnant. There is no way around that. If you truly believe the mom has moral worth - and all Christians are obligated to do so in the Bible - then you do not want to force her to carry a life she had tried to avoid conceiving against her will when she is suffering mentally and physically as a result.
external linkAll humans are made in God’s image and were created to have fellowship with Him Genesis 1:26; Galatians 3:28; Colossians 3:10-11
External LinkThe shedding of innocent blood is hence strictly forbidden Genesis 9:6; Exodus 23:7; Proverbs 6:16-17). Children are not seen as unwanted or as a nuisance (unless they turn wicked), but they are considered gifts from God - the greatest possible of blessings Psalms 127:3-5; Psalms 113:9; Genesis 17:6; Genesis 33:5
External LinkAmong the Jews who saw children as a gift and barrenness as a curse, it was unthinkable that an Israelite woman should desire an abortion.
Even Josephus the Jewish historian made mention of this saying “The law orders all the offspring be brought up, and forbids women either to cause abortion or to make away with the fetus.”
Equal moral worth means both the pregnant woman and child in the womb.
Equal moral worth means both the pregnant woman and child in the womb.Do you actually respect the mom's equal moral worth throughout her pregnancy?
Calling women who choose abortion murderers is the opposite of what Jesus would do.
What again exactly would “Jesus do?”
Jesus talked about being nice and not condescending. Something about lifting each other up. He also said the second commandment is, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Then there is the judgment warning: "Do not judge others, for you will be judged." Clearly Jesus would not tell women they are murderers if any of them had an abortion. Nor would he tell a pregnant woman just to put up with her pain and say since she had unprotected sex, her mental and physical suffering are deserved and must go on for nine months.
Where one sets up a flimsy example so they can easily disprove the other's case.What is a strawman?
Equal worth means not killing the baby, treating her like she is less worthy and should not exist. It is never moral to kill an innocent human being. It's ... disrespectful.Equal worth means never disrespecting the mom, treating her like she is less worthy than a human being that should not exist. It is never moral to force her to suffer in any way unless Jesus would do it.
The unborn baby never loses her moral worth just because she was conceived as an unwanted baby.The mom never loses her moral worth just because she conceived an unwanted baby.
It's a strange moral universe where you have to kill one person to show the moral worth of another. It's a cruel universe where big people kill little people, powerful people kill the powerless, people dehumanize other people, and we've killed 60 million innocent human beings in America alone. How many Jews were killed in the Holocaust? Their killing was just as legal and as moral as what has happened here.If you only say just because the baby has moral worth it should not be killed, you are saying she has no moral worth at all as long as she is pregnant. There is no way around that. If you truly believe the mom has moral worth - and all Christians are obligated to do so in the Bible - then you do not want to force her to carry a life she had tried to avoid conceiving against her will when she is suffering mentally and physically as a result.