Jesus Has Been Reigning Since Pentecost

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The very passage you quote is saying that he is king until the last enemy is conquered. And when that last enemy is conquered, he ceases to be king.



He already put down all rule and authority by demonstrating that the ultimate power of all rule and authority - the taking of a subject's life - had no effect on him and therefore those who were members of his kingdom also are immune to state-sponsored murder. We no longer have anything to fear when it comes to government authority.

There is nowhere in scripture that states Christ's rulership is not complete and total as prophesied and designed.



He gives up all rule on the last day. He turns it all back over to the father. He doesn't have a 'partial' kingdom. He has the whole thing. Show me in scripture where it says Jesus is only ruler over a part of the kingdom.

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This we can see is a sematic of God`s great kingdom. The Godhead is over all.
 
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This we can see is a sematic of God`s great kingdom. The Godhead is over all.

This is a picture that some man made, it isn't the scripture. So tell me in scripture where Jesus is said only to be 'partially' a king.
 
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This is a picture that some man made, it isn't the scripture. So tell me in scripture where Jesus is said only to be 'partially' a king.

Where did I say that Jesus is `only to be `partially` king?`
 
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Where did I say that Jesus is `only to be `partially` king?`


"however He is not operating in His Kingship at the moment"

"However as the subjects of that kingdom are still partial blinded to their Messiah, they do not receive His rulership."

He is king at the moment. He was made king at his death and resurrection. Our kingdom is not an earthly kingdom and he is our king right now. He is not coming back to reign on earth, he reigns right now.

How people respond to his rule does not limit his rule.

Revelation 1:9
"I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ"

6 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

He was made king, operating in that authority and ruling over us and the world. The world may not obey the king, but they will be judged by the 'perfect law of liberty' on the day of resurrection.
 
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"however He is not operating in His Kingship at the moment"

"However as the subjects of that kingdom are still partial blinded to their Messiah, they do not receive His rulership."

He is king at the moment. He was made king at his death and resurrection. Our kingdom is not an earthly kingdom and he is our king right now. He is not coming back to reign on earth, he reigns right now.

How people respond to his rule does not limit his rule.

Revelation 1:9
"I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ"

6 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”

He was made king, operating in that authority and ruling over us and the world. The world may not obey the king, but they will be judged by the 'perfect law of liberty' on the day of resurrection.

Jesus was king BEFORE He came to earth. He was King of heaven, (Dan. 4: 37) King of Glory, (Ps. 24: 7 -10), King of the ages, (1 Tim. 1: 17).
 
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Jesus was king BEFORE He came to earth. He was King of heaven, (Dan. 4: 37) King of Glory, (Ps. 24: 7 -10), King of the ages, (1 Tim. 1: 17).

He was made king when he was resurrected.

Nebudchudnezzar was speaking of the father. In Daniel 9, Daniel calls Jesus the prince. He wasn't yet king.

The father was the king before Christ.

1 Samuel 8
7 And the Lord said to Samuel, “Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them.

He gave Christ the throne and Christ will turn it back over to the father on the last day.

1 Corinthians 15
24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

 
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He was made king when he was resurrected.

Nebudchudnezzar was speaking of the father. In Daniel 9, Daniel calls Jesus the prince. He wasn't yet king.

The father was the king before Christ.

1 Samuel 8
7 And the Lord said to Samuel, “Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them.

He gave Christ the throne and Christ will turn it back over to the father on the last day.

1 Corinthians 15
24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

(Dan. 9: 25) Prince is the Hebrew word `nagid` meaning commander. It is not a son of a king in that context.
Now the kingdom of God is NOT just the kingdoms of this world, but every realm that the Lord made and He made them for Himself.

`He (Christ) is the image of the invisible God, the first-born (manifest) over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created by Him and for Him.` (Col. 1: 15 & 16)

The kingdom of God reaches from the highest heaven through the universe and into our realm, on earth. Christ will be the visible king in God`s great kingdom and will rule under the Father.

`And He is the head of the Body the church, who is the beginning, the first-born (manifested) from the dead, that in ALL THINGS He may have the PRE-EMINENCE.` (Col. 1: 18)
 
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(Dan. 9: 25) Prince is the Hebrew word `nagid` meaning commander. It is not a son of a king in that context.
Now the kingdom of God is NOT just the kingdoms of this world, but every realm that the Lord made and He made them for Himself.

`He (Christ) is the image of the invisible God, the first-born (manifest) over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created by Him and for Him.` (Col. 1: 15 & 16)

The kingdom of God reaches from the highest heaven through the universe and into our realm, on earth. Christ will be the visible king in God`s great kingdom and will rule under the Father.

`And He is the head of the Body the church, who is the beginning, the first-born (manifested) from the dead, that in ALL THINGS He may have the PRE-EMINENCE.` (Col. 1: 18)


And he was made king when he was resurrected as Peter explains.

‘I foresaw the Lord always before my face,
For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad;
Moreover my flesh also will rest in hope.
27 For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
28 You have made known to me the ways of life;
You will make me full of joy in Your presence.’

29 “Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his [David's] throne, 31 he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption. 32 This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses. 33 Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.


If Jesus was already king, what need would he have to be raised up on a throne by the father?
 
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And he was made king when he was resurrected as Peter explains.

‘I foresaw the Lord always before my face,
For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken.
26 Therefore my heart rejoiced, and my tongue was glad;
Moreover my flesh also will rest in hope.
27 For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
28 You have made known to me the ways of life;
You will make me full of joy in Your presence.’

29 “Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. 30 Therefore, being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that of the fruit of his body, according to the flesh, He would raise up the Christ to sit on his [David's] throne, 31 he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption. 32 This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses. 33 Therefore being exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He poured out this which you now see and hear.


If Jesus was already king, what need would he have to be raised up on a throne by the father?

That is only ONE of Christ`s kingships, His earthly one.

`We give you thanks, O Lord God Almighty, the one who is and who was and who is to come, because you have taken your great power and reigned.` (Rev. 11: 17)

And that is in the tribulation.
 
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That is only ONE of Christ`s kingships, His earthly one.

He doesn't have and never will have an earthly kingdom as he himself stated.

36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”

You are batting o'fer.
 
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He doesn't have and never will have an earthly kingdom as he himself stated.

36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”

You are batting o'fer.

When Jesus was speaking to Pilate Jesus said His kingdom/rule is not of this world, meaning His rulership is NOT FROM this world.

No one on earth gave Jesus His authority. His authority, as we know is from God the Father.

`I have set my king on Mount Zion.` (Ps. 2: 6)
 
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When Jesus was speaking to Pilate Jesus said His kingdom/rule is not of this world, meaning His rulership is NOT FROM this world.

No one on earth gave Jesus His authority. His authority, as we know is from God the Father.

`I have set my king on Mount Zion.` (Ps. 2: 6)

You are dodging. That is a prophecy about Jesus. Jesus' kingdom was given to him by the father as a result of his resurrection. He was not king before then though we can say that the kingdom did exist prior to him being made king. The father was the king. And we learn that the kingdom will be handed 'back' to the father after the last day.

Jesus is king now. He operates fully as king. There's not any part of the kingdom that he doesn't have authority over and he hold the highest name.

11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

His kingdom is populated by the church. The only way into the kingdom is by obedience to him. He resides in heaven and rules us from there. He has authority over all on earth. Those who do not obey him will be judged on the last day and it will be his law that judges them. We are all subject to Jesus right now.

That word "subject" does not mean obedient. It means 'under the jurisdiction of.'
 
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You are dodging. That is a prophecy about Jesus. Jesus' kingdom was given to him by the father as a result of his resurrection. He was not king before then though we can say that the kingdom did exist prior to him being made king. The father was the king. And we learn that the kingdom will be handed 'back' to the father after the last day.

Jesus is king now. He operates fully as king. There's not any part of the kingdom that he doesn't have authority over and he hold the highest name.

11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

His kingdom is populated by the church. The only way into the kingdom is by obedience to him. He resides in heaven and rules us from there. He has authority over all on earth. Those who do not obey him will be judged on the last day and it will be his law that judges them. We are all subject to Jesus right now.

That word "subject" does not mean obedient. It means 'under the jurisdiction of.'

`Lift up your heads, O you gates! And be lifted up, you everlasting doors! And the KING OF GLORY shall come in. Who is this KING OF GLORY? The Lord strong and might. The Lord mighty in battle.

Lift up your heads, O you gates! And lift them up you everlasting doors! And the KING OF GLORY shall come in. Who is this KING OF GLORY? The Lord of hosts, He is the KING OF GLORY. ` (Ps. 24: 7 - 10)
 
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You are dodging. That is a prophecy about Jesus. Jesus' kingdom was given to him by the father as a result of his resurrection. He was not king before then though we can say that the kingdom did exist prior to him being made king. The father was the king. And we learn that the kingdom will be handed 'back' to the father after the last day.

Jesus is king now. He operates fully as king. There's not any part of the kingdom that he doesn't have authority over and he hold the highest name.

11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

His kingdom is populated by the church. The only way into the kingdom is by obedience to him. He resides in heaven and rules us from there. He has authority over all on earth. Those who do not obey him will be judged on the last day and it will be his law that judges them. We are all subject to Jesus right now.

That word "subject" does not mean obedient. It means 'under the jurisdiction of.'

`The earth is the Lord`s and all its fullness, the world and those who dwell therein.` (Ps. 24: 1)

God made the world and still owns it. He never gave it away. It is still His kingdom from the highest heavens right through the Universe and the earth, all are God`s and His great kingdom.

The Body of Christ is His BODY and He is interceding for us now. He does not take His kingly power (which He has) and reign till the tribulation.

`We give you thanks o Lord God Almighty. The One who is and who was and who is to come. Because you have TAKEN YOUR GREAT POWER AND REIGNED.` (Rev. 11: 17)
 
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Read Isaiah 11 if you want some answers on this subject. Then check the cross references. Our Lord Jesus Christ is not reigning over the earth yet. This is prophecy yet to be fulfilled.
 
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Read Isaiah 11 if you want some answers on this subject. Then check the cross references. Our Lord Jesus Christ is not reigning over the earth yet. This is prophecy yet to be fulfilled.

He better be reigning. Otherwise the Jesus lies.

Matthew 16
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

How could Jesus give authority to the apostles regarding the kingdom if he didn't already reign? He gave them this authority on earth.

1 Timothy 1:17
Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
 
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He better be reigning. Otherwise the Jesus lies.

Matthew 16
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

How could Jesus give authority to the apostles regarding the kingdom if he didn't already reign? He gave them this authority on earth.

1 Timothy 1:17
Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

We both agree that the Lord Jesus Christ is High Priest AND King.

However please show me when He `has taken His great power and reigned.` (Rev. 11: 17)

`keys of the kingdom`
means authority in relation to salvation, demons, and disease.
 
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Our Lord Jesus Christ hasn't taken His Throne in Jerusalem yet, but He will at His chosen time. He will change the world dramatically. You know that Jesus Christ hasn't taken His Throne yet when you see evil running rampant like we have now.
 
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